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Yeeaahh... after skimming through the CES coverage I came across the Titan 2 and thought the same. Nokia's L900 is nice and all, but next to the Titan 2 it looks (excuse me while I clear my throat) LIKE 2 STEPS BEHIND EVERYONE ELSE AGAIN!!

So good luck with that. I will continue to love my N9 while Joe Zombie wanders into the at&t store and walks past the Lumia and buys the Titan 2. It's America, people (mostly) will buy what the media tells them to and what their friends tell them is cool. The word "Nokia" isn't in people's List of Cool Brands anymore. Good luck guys.

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The truly interesting stuff won't come till Apollo, I've always said...
It'll take so long that they may as well have had the balls just to stick with what they were doing.
September at the earliest, what's the bet, & that's with two massive co's collaborating!

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Anybody wanna challenge this guy in CES: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_p...dowsphone.aspx

Win $100 If Your Phone Is Faster than a Windows Phone

Overclocked N900???

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I'm curious.. If he's "So confident" then why is he "bringing a stack of $100 bills?)

Curious :cool:

Re: Nokia Lumia 900 Official : "Born for the USA" !
 

Because you would never bet a person without the money. Stack of hundreds creates the illusion that you can/should win.

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Maybe it's like a price tier list for their services. We are approaching Dominique Strauss-Kahn territory.

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Nokia did right this time!!!!

It's confirmed Lumia 900 has RGB AMOLED :eek::eek:
(if it's true then congratz to Lumia 900)

WOW, that really made me "N9-with-ENVY"

I'd trade for its' 4.3 screen, its' battery, the RGB AMOLED but keep my meego + swipe UI.

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Hahaha Joe Zombie. Love it. I indeed agree that many consumers in America care more about having the trendy products. I bought my N9 for the balance of not being too flashy, but having lots of unlocked potential and just being great at what a phone is supposed to do. It makes crystal clear calls and I haven't dropped a single one yet in the 3 months I've owned it. It also gets amazing reception with data coverage too. I love having a phone in the states no one even knows about. I love the confusion on peoples faces when I tell them the make and model, " that phone isn't on the commercials and in stores" :)

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The only truly notable advantage it has, is the sub-pixel config. I'm livid about that.
All N9 owners/supporters should be protesting on a massive scale right about now.

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Guys read the thread please. There could't be RGB in N9. It doesn't fit. And not everybody wants a 4.3 incher with the same resolution as the N900.

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IMHO....

Lumia better burn in hell.

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I too have an unlocked N9 in the States. I get similar curiosity from friends and coworkers about the phone. I can go one further than justadude by recounting my experience when I went into the AT&T store to get a micro-SIM card for my N9. The techs in the AT&T store were all "gaga" over the N9. One even showed it to another customer in the store to tell him how good a phone it is! lol :) BTW, the phone works great on AT&T's network. Now that the L900 has been confirmed, I will have to go back to the AT&T store and ask the techs what they think about it and compare with the N9. Cheers! Steve

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In addition to the N9 I also own the iPhone4S and can confirm that its screen is the sharpest I have seen on a phone. However, in a side by side comparison while browsing or reading a PDF the N9's sharpness is almost as good. In other words, I don't think the discussion about the specs and technology used on the screens is as important as the results you get in actual use. I decided to own both phones and will from time to time post my observations and opinions on this forum.

Cheers!

Steve

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Are you sure you can tell the difference side by side in normal use? I tried with a Galaxy S2 (RGB) and Galaxy S Plus (pentile) and I couldn't.

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Cheap brand for oldies meets hated monopolist in the U.S. Let's see how far they can go.

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They only won 88% during CES. All talk. They probably had mostly iPhone 3 challengers

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The clever part of his challenge is he and only he would know which competition to do for the competitor and hence he would already have lot better planning on how to perform the task == lot more change of winning even if windows phone was slower.

I just tried sharing one of the photo in facebook using share plugin I had and seems like it isn't working! Maybe I have changed the facebook password since I last used the plugin or most probably the plugin is broken by now. I would have surely lost the 'who can post photo in facebook fast?' if I was a competitor.

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HA! I have the exact same story, but in a T-Mobile store! The T-Mo Dude was all like, "Oooh! The Lumia!" and I went, "Actually...it's the Nokia N9." And he goes, "Woah, really? Hey Mario! [his colleague] check it out..... MeeGo!" And holds up the N9 to show his co-worker on the other side of the store. We had a good time, he cut my old T-Mo sim for me and we booted the N9 up and he was GAGA over the swiping and the smoothness. He kinda whispered the Lumia 900 was going to at&t, so he must've had some inkling as this was about 2 weeks ago. But he said he really liked it, and the customer waiting next to me (Android fan) was impressed too. He said he had no idea Nokia could make something so cool, the last time he saw a Nokia it was when Snake first came out!
I left that store feeling positive and knowing that in my pocket, was a rare species. New York City might be an ocean of aging, dull iPhones, but I got myself a beautiful sleek blue shark, seldom seen in these parts :)

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Who was saying that? I wasn't.

Definitely, it's not huge for all usage types, but it's there...
We should be making a ****-load of noise for a revised N9 w/the same res, but improved sub-pixel config.
After all, in 6mth we'll most likely be paying way more for N9's than the L800, or even the 900.*
And the N9's their marquee phone alongside the 900, it deserves the same respect, we do too.
We're not Elop's laboratory rats to do with as he pleases...

*Assuming it becomes available outside AT&T.
Even if it doesn't, thanks to being carrier locked it'll be way less (face value) than the N9.

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But Elop is sh1t-scared of the N9 eating Lumia for lunch so an improved N9 model with RGB S-Amoled will be low on Nokia's priority.

Better hope that Lumia flops and Elop gets booted out.

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He's been quite responsive to other complaints we've lodged with him in the past.
But yes, I've always been weary of approaching him directly...
I still don't trust that when "push comes to shove", he really has our interests at heart.
He likes to present the ideal that a Nokia customer is a Nokia customer, WP or not.
But sometimes that seems like a bit of an act....

Having said all that, he really has nothing to worry about anyway...
Apollo will have feature parity* w/Maemo6x (maybe surpass), & it'll finally support beefier hardware.
Once that happens it's game over for mass-adoption of Maemo6x/N9, not that there was much of a chance before.
Adoption rates may even drop-off to lower than they were for the N900 at the same point.
As at that point there'll be about 4 top-to-mid end WP handsets, & more on the way.
And some new Symbian high-ends coming, or on-board...

*or will at least come close.

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Apollo isn't competing with Maemo6x/N9, it is competing with iphone and Android. As it will be out only in Q3/Q4 it is so late to the party that it may as well not come. By then iphone 5 and quad core Android phone will be out.

Mango isn't even on par with current ios and Android 4 by a long shot. Here's an honest review of Mango by a reviewer who bought his own phone, not one given F.O.C. by Nokia. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...ia-800-goodbye

The prospect for WP7 is bleak. Nokia still hasn't released figures but some reports say it has sold far short of 1 million in Europe in Q4'11. This is a failure despite the huge marketing as even the N8 based on the sunset Symbian sold 4 million in its 1st Q. In India and China WP7 will fail (too many reasons to state here) while U.S. is the last great hope. The rest of the world including Oz doesn't care about WP7.

In U.S. the Nokia brand is associated with cheap flip phones for oldies while Microsoft is an unloved monopolist. WP7 penetration so far is only 5%. Will Lumia make it here? It better or Nokia is doomed. Another company will gobble up a weak and battered Nokia who bet on the wrong horse.

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The more I look at it, the more it bothers me that Harmattan is as complete as it is with anemic funding but a passionate group that produced something that's pretty damn good... but feels incomplete.

Windows Phone 7, well... it's a basic restart by Microsoft that also feels incomplete. I have an N9, went on a trip overseas, made my way back to WP7 because of a few things that I actually missed - performance was not one of them, which Microsoft touts all of the time. It was a few apps that make my life simpler... Google Analytics via PhoneAnalytics, WhatsApp, (better system for) Browser Bookmarks... and a few other contact positives.

But I'm not your average user - neither are any of the TMO members. I actually dislike holding a phone to my ear, so bluetooth better be flawless. I can't say that for the N9. It didn't like my car stereo - which paired with my Android, iPhone and WP7 phones without incident. It would sometimes ring in my Bose Series 2 earpiece, sometimes it wouldn't.

The N9 would sometimes hang up if I put somebody on hold. WP7 sometimes would hang up when I was switching between calls (prior to Mango). The battery life on both aren't really something I'd write home to anybody about but I find that my WP7 is lesser than my N9 on heavy usage.

But back to my statement about not being a typical phone user. I've figured out that I want a simple phone experience. In, out, informed in a moment's glance. Both WP7 and Harmattan give me that. I miss the time and notifications on my screen. Hell, I miss double tapping my screen to wake it up - man, I've been tapping on my monitors, my Xoom and TouchPad tablets, hell... I think I double tapped my car stereo!

But WP7 is a pretty easy to use OS. Harmattan is an easy to use OS. But as it stands, there's just a few apps that I want that Harmattan doesn't have. That and Skype video - which WP7 doesn't have yet either.

The only thing that bothers me, I know I'll be going back to my N9 once PR1.2 comes out. But there will be no Skype video calling. Just video calling via other means. They get that, they have a killer app. Skype is just so well built-in.

Lumia 900 in the US... means that everybody will think that I will have one of those phones when honestly I have the N9. That also aggravates me.

Oh well...

Re: Nokia Lumia 900 Official : "Born for the USA" !
 

I had the same experience at the AT&T store on 5th ave an 48th street in manhattan. Went to get myself a micro sim for my N9 and the AT&T reps were going crazy over my N9.

I am due for an upgrade since last week and i will get the Lumia 900 when it comes out and keep it as a back up phone for work.

:)

Re: Nokia Lumia 900 Official : "Born for the USA" !
 

So can we put MeeGo on the Lumia 900? that's the question that we need to work on! ;)

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my big issue is that Nokia has bet the entire farm on Microsoft. What company even finds it acceptable to put the entire future of the company on another company?! Seriously, Microsoft owns Nokia right now..

What if Microsoft drops WP tomorrow? Nokia has no control or say in their future. Only control over hardware and Nokia drive..

Nokia is now just a hardware oem with no leverage.

blah ..

Re: Nokia Lumia 900 Official : "Born for the USA" !
 

In terms of hardware, the only control Nokia has is the design of the casing. The specs for WP7 hardware are controlled by Microsoft and are very tight. For example there is very little scope for a cheap WP7 phone.

As for Nokia Drive and Nokia Music they have been cracked and can be installed on any WP7 phone.

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Very true..

No NFC etc.. Just junk IMO. I have no clue how Nokia's board would even consider allowing this mole into the company. People can't say the same about Samsung, LG etc because they have diversified their business into many areas (TV's, dishwashers etc). Nokia basically just have phone shells. How crazy can they be?

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RUMOR: Other Carriers Can Sell Nokia Lumia 900 By Mid-2012
http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/sup...mid2012-141907
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*Probably it's hinted @ other global markets, not the U.S.

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I wonder if this applies to Nokia Windows Phones:

http://www.phonenews.com/microsoft-i...ndows-8-19713/

If so, one more reason NOT to buy these devices.

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Nokia predicted to sell 37 million Windows Phones this year!

While Nokia’s Windows Phones are far from being mainstream or even have that level of awareness in the market, Morgan Stanley however suggest that the company could sell around 37 million Windows Phone devices in 2012.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7974/...rojections.png

They report that the Windows Phone-based Lumia line of smartphones will be the devices that will make that possible and Nokia has been doing their best to market them accordingly. The report suggests that the sales will reach 64 million by 2013, which is pretty optimistic in terms of projections. But it’s not entirely impossible and the phone could easily catch up if it offers something different from the competition.

We’ll have to wait and see if this comes true, but Windows Phone 7 [later 8] will definitely be a formidable competitor to the market owned by Android and iOS.

Qorax
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Ref: http://allthingsd.com/20120111/nokia...nes-this-year/

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IIRC it's "only" about WHQL certification requirements. "If you want that sticker on your machine, please lock out uncertified 3rd party operating systems / the ability for users to install so".

And this enforcement of secure mode is _only_ on ARM, for x86 it seems there's the possibility to still boot into custom mode or disable secure boot in general.

Seems as they don't have the market penetration / edge / ability to get some on mobile ARM platforms, they want to use an brute-force approach. Nothing to see here, move on folks...

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Yawn...

Any way, I think this thread is spam and should be moved from this part of the forum.

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AGREED! :mad:

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How-much-ever we love our N9s [I do], the fact remains that this platform has been dumped; and shall remain within a handful of us, a collector's device [which is why I possess all of them, all colors/variants].

That said, besides the overwhelming twin platforms [iOS & Andy] the only other worthwhile [sic] operating system remains the WPOS... we like it or otherwise. Let us take that with a pinch of salt - coming from the same form factor, the Lumias might at least keep the ball rolling, try & give the other two a challenge - if not a run - in our shape, size & colors.

Then, this is also our 1st cousin!

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Maybe not the most popular opinion around here, but i have truly been enjoying my Lumia 800 for past week and replaced it with my N9 as my main phone.

I got the looks of the best looking phone in the planet imo with a platform that at least is going somewhere and damn smooth to use(even compared to my iPad 2). Been kind of bummed about the whole open source thing after following it for past 2-3 years. Community around all these projects have been awesome, but they have been just that, projects.
Could not care less about Tizen, or whatever it name might be tomorrow.

That said if it was about the me i would have wanted to see where harmattan could have gone with the money now poured to WP.

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I used my Lumia 800 for about 5 mins before almost falling in to a coma because it's so boring. To be fair, my response to Harmattan was similar. After a few minutes of swiping, I asked myself 'is that it?'. ZZZZZZZZzzzzz.

If Nokia sell 37m Windoze Phones this year, I'll show my bare arse in Elops' chosen department store.

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Though can you say iOS for example is more exciting UI wise? I have found the tiles to be more informative than iOS's wall of icons.

Be it a phase or something but i'm just looking for a phone that's smooth and just works. At the pace i'm switching phones, i'm looking at next phone in 6 months, most probably running on iOS or WP.

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I don't know anything of iOS, but the fact that both the Lumia 800 and N9 can be reasonably compared to the iPhone illustrates my point. They are just A.N.Other boring smartphone. This is my beef with the N9. If someone wants A.N.Other smartphone that 'just works', they are probably better off with an iPhone or Windoze Phone. If you want more than that, then the N9 doesn't really deliver.

As for the Lumia, I took my free device, and will write software for it. :eek: But just like my N950, I probably won't use it for any other purpose.

Re: Nokia Lumia 900 Official : "Born for the USA" !
 

Then again - this one is out !

Huawei unveils world’s slimmest smartphone at CES 2012
Huawei Ascend P1 S

Huawei Ascend P1 S is the most compact smartphone in its class featuring Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich OS, dual-core 1.5GHz processor and 4.3-inch super AMOLED touchscreen. Works on AWS [T-Mobile, WIND, Mobilicity etc.]!

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4...1s1024x598.jpg

Design
Smartphone, Slim (6.68mm), 4.3" S/AMOLED, 16M colors, Gorilla Glass
8Mp camera, Dual LED, 1080p @ 30fps, 1.3Mp front
Android 4.0 ICS, 1Gb RAM, 4Gb SSD, MicroSD slot (32Gb max)
MHL-HDMI socket: One plug for either HDMI or USB cable, charge by either

Network
GSM: ..850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz (wow!)

Battery
Ascend P1: 1,800mAh (user inaccessible)
Ascend P1S: 1,670mAh (user inaccessible)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2...1sthreecol.jpg

Infomercial Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e97qsR7gB0

C-Net's hands on review:
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-pho...6617/?s_cid=41

Availability
Announced: 09 Jan 2012 (CES)
At Middle East: Mar 2012
Worldwide: Jun 2012

Interestingly, Huawei has built a custom front-end for Ice Cream Sandwich on the P1S with 3D graphics.
Uh, just when we thought that the Lumia 900 was supposedly upbeat - here comes another KICK-A55 !

Qorax
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I know I'm rocking another hornet's nest with this post...