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hopefully someday in the future nokia would makeone :p :D

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I bet you'll be happy with an iphone too ...

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How is resistive better? More precision? Can be used with gloves? Cons: Needs a stylus or a fingernail. Only one point can be measured (two with limitations), no multi-touch.

"Vertical" resolution? Not in portrait mode. If the UI does not reserve 100 pixels on top with an information bar, it's already better.

I really want a huge and thick HDMI cable between my couch, where I'm trying to hold my phone in my hands, and the TV. And I really want it coiled under or behind the TV when I'm not using it. Do you have a wife? Kids? A cat? Most TVs come with DLNA now.

When FM broadcasting is turned off, what do you think will happen to the FM radio spectrum? It'll be sold for other digital uses, like the Analog TV bands were sold for 4G mobile. Think you'll be able to use FM transmitters then? The bands will be filled with digital "static"!

The N900 is a great mini-computer. The last of the breed. They're gone, they're called tablets now. The closest to the N900 is a Galaxy Note. With 5 inches, you can have a soft keyboard permanently there. Port Nemo to the Note. Or wait for Nokia to disappear and raid the Espoo headquarters to get the Maemo source code.

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Tizen can still beat most other OSes since it is still not dead and abandoned or dead... yet.

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I doubt it. Nokia don't make those. ;)

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Ossipena and I rarely agree on anything, but I can respect that. But his take on WP is from the direction of a person that's used it. Same with me. I've used it and found its simplicity - and Harmattan's simplicity - pretty much a very welcome thing. Is it perfect, not by a long shot.

I'd have to rank Ossipena as a hardcore Maemo lover, but realistic in all other areas.

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If there will be Nokia in the future? :rolleyes:

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Personally I'm seriously worried. There's nothing even near to replace the N900 when it gets outdated for me. I will hang on to it as long as I possibly can, but there will be some day in the future when I have to move to something else. Guess the only hope is Tizen now, and that some hardware developer will go for it. A device without the physical keyboard and the looks and feel of N900/Maemo is a no-go for me. Its the first real phone-alike tablet that actually do the thing for me.
It doesn't matter if the SGII or N9 has really nice hardware, they lack physical keyboard and they are profiled just as typical smartphones. What am I to do with boring noob stuff like that? In that case I might as well back down to regular featurephones, at least they got some batterylife. All smartphones today are just lightweight blingbling aimed for for blonde superfical people playing with facebook, twitter and wordfeud. It's just brainless gaming crap, its just freaking toys. I don't get it at all, I have no use at all for crap like that, none whatsoever. I completely detest Android, its a plastic OS that just happens to have a linux kernel somewhere buried in the bottom.

Oh man this is bad, it is so bad.

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well 1280x800 is reallly enough (and has the mystical 16:10 :P)
why triple band LTE? next phone with maemo could have those since that's a fact that 4g is still far from complete (well you have some 3.5G data transfer called LTE but it's still newborn infant) quad band GSM with full 3G is enough (and WCDMA for people in USA and generally out of europe), I will better go for Wifi N (since mostly WIFI is mostly cheaper than cellural data transfer, as it's generally free). Resistive or capacitive? who cares? if it had to have NASA themed bulletproof case it would be capacitive as resistive needs pressure, but we are happy enough on nokia plastic cases and there's not so much flaws on resistive. better go for big enough screen for new bigger resolution and make it true LED (not the LCD with LED backlight) so it consumes tiny batery power. bigger battery capacity ? why not? more RAM ? definately! I vote for 1gb or 2gb since ARM is 32bit. (micro)HDMI? well it needs some digital TV-out and it's definately one of them and it's smaller than DVI (having DVI in mobile phone would be ridicolous :P) perhaps it could even handle FullHD TV Output. better camera? why not, but 5MP with Carl Zeiss optics is enough. USB 3.0? Yeah some people still use wired transmission and it will be much faster than USB 2.0 and compatible with it. hardware support for OTG/hostmode? Definately. Keyboard? Definately, and match a bit bigger buttons under bigger screen, maybe even a 4row one. faster/multicore CPU? well at least a bit faster and at least 2 core. faster GPU? definately ! for support 720p or even FullHD films on built-in camera (5MP>FullHD) and modern Games through HW-accelerated OpenGL. 64 GB internal memory? well better make two versions one 64GB, and one 256GB - why not? microSDHC port? i prefer microSDXC (for SD cards > 32GB) . And finally Maemo? Sure but freshed up since some binaries on N900 in non-modified systems are ancient whiloe N900 is only a bit old. Any Maemo-compatible Linux will suffice too while not being DRM-infected (easyDebian couldn't work on N9 due to signing binaries on rootfs and the need for different version of shell binary.. or eD folks maintained it out? well the DRM still sucks).

well from last politics on Nokia I forecast that there will be no Nokia Linux phone until they mantain to make Nokia Company cheap and it's bought by somebody else than microsoft :P. It's named sabotage, or more gently on stock known as speculation.

If i finally Degree the Programming Electronics And Telecomunication on my end-of-world university I sure project similair device but on AMD64 architecture (nicknamed x64 by Intel) with at least 8GB RAM, I'll benefit from APU ("The Future is fusion" said AMD), hardware moddable intristics (as much moddable as current Laptops so eg. choice between 64GB SSD or 1TB-or-more HDD, extendable memory with Laptop RAM modules etc.) And I'll use Powerfull Multi-Use Antenna (so adding new protocols will be matter of driver only, and FM/TV transmitter will be easiest of). And Sure all Cellular comunication working including talk and MMS (or some newer cellular message service), and cellular phone hardware gadgets such as accelerometer. don't mention PC compability, handheld-console-like front (and full HW keyboard under a slide), and a few tasty things. Then I'll collect Bucks, the device will be used over years, and thought of any new version good enough to make my users switch (if i can't i can wait for Third World be rich enough to buy it and Worldwide Population Gain :P)

If someone is crazy enough to do it before me, then I'll certainly buy it, and the producer will have great puzzle to make users update the hardware again :P

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ten chars!

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A lot of love and emotion for something that will never happen...

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You forgot, fully Open Source Stack.

That doesn't mean open except this liddle tiny bit over here, they are fooling no one.

If they want to appease the corporate lock in peeps that understand no different then let them compete at the application layer with proprietary software, let everyone else have a completely open OS with open standards.

rgds

ps. Forgot, digital compass.

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i will live with my N900 as long as its functioning. after N900 if any decent device came from Nokia not WP then for sure i will buy it otherwise i will be a another Samsung user which left Nokia because its now sleeping with Microsoft.

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Nokia had their time with symbian , but its bad now after iphone and android came to life ! , so nokia moved toward windows ! thats one BIG fault , i believe that in couple of years nokia will shut down , because i saw many people moving to iphone during the symbian , more people moved to androids when it came and their comemnts were "am never getting a nokia again" , i am now living with my N900 , and will move to android rather than windows+nokia if my N900 dies

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android? chew it out. we will move to BBX (new versions of blackberry OS which are reworked in core and which is compatible with unix standards). if we really need those android apps they can be easily ported to BBX with no much more than recompilation. the only problem are propertiery modules but it won't disable us to use free linux (eg. maemo) apps on UNIX compatible system (well a bit work on porting may be needed)

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 

who is we? certanly not people curently using maemo :p

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 

nah. gimme a new n810 like hackable device with modern specs instead. I have enough phones already.

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Get the New tizen device, and buy the spark and you are ready to go...

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tizen device? Didn't know there was one. Not sure if I even care though. I'll get a Spark for sure.

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Samsung Galaxy S2 with Meego would be nice.

Then again Samsung Galaxy S3 with Tizen; and w/ Qt, J2SE, J2ME and Dalvik would be even more nicer.

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Actual "T*tties" would be even more more nicer than "Tizen". :rolleyes: /this post should have been made by Chuck Norris

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I don't mean immediately, but after a few years the N900 hardware wuold start to suck, and if there wouldn't be any open linux/bsd-branded devices, the last hope for us is BBX (successor from Blackberry OS and QNX, BB get nice things under roof) which is Unix-Based but mostly closed source.

but it wouldn't make impossible to have open-source-apps on top of closed-source-unix, and porting to BBX native mode should be easy, because it's ARM and it's unix-based (both like maemo)

but yeah for a year or more i wouldn't leave my N900, and when it would be too slow for me i can try overclocking etc. but the point is Nokia killed her baby...

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Sounds like something only the Chinese could create... we can only hope. MSI, are you listening? Your chance to get a piece of the mobile cake is NOW! :)

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he/she falsifies quotes & rambles to try and start fights...
reminds me of dada :|

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How about a public petition to nokia?

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Hurry up then. I think they will close their mail (distribution) office soon.

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nope, 5 minutes with iPad and I just couldn't understand why in the hell you have to press the button all the time unless you play solitaire all the time with the tab...

WPs back and win buttons make more sense, but aren't that good either compared to swipe.

e: now I understand... most of you doesn't probably know my background. coming from complete hw qwerty kb enthusiasm, I have stated that no kb to N9 is complete showstopper for me. Then I got N950 and realized that the kb only mostly patched the usability glitches in the os.

swype works just fine for the most of cellphone writing such as short emails, smses and short replies to forums. switching to hw kb doesn't help that much because then the screen is (still) the biggest limiting factor: you can only see two pretty short chapters of text at most.

as for now, I'd describe myself to be pulled away from fanboyism (I admit, I was helluva N900/M5 fanboy) towards praise of usability instead of single specific platform.

Being labelled WP fanboy makes me just laugh. Using those stupid ad hominem arguments make me cry.

Yeah I like many things about lumia 800. I don't like the button hell anymore after using N950. I still own N800 & N900, VertSMS sources are still fully at everyones disposal. QGolfTrackers sources also. Maemo wiki for newcomers to N900 probably is roughly the same it was while I was contributing to it etc (lost motivation completely when meego was announced)...