Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

This is great news, though I'm not a power user myself but any development is good development.

On side note, could you please change your official site background from black to any other colour ? Reading text is out of question I cannot even look at the site for more than 2 secs.

Thanks

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

I just added an alternate stylesheet that allows you to swap the colors from white-on-black to black-on-white. If you use IE8/9 or Firefox, you should be able to select it from the menu. Does that help?

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Holy ****ing ****, I installed INCEPTION, and there is no ****ing Lag with PR1.2 anymore. Holy ****ing **** this is amazing. Overclocking and Whatsapp are all we need and

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Although not Easy Debian, I have my own custom debian chroot script I've been working with (for Android, Kindle, and, now, Meego :)).

I was able to mount the loop filesystem... however, chroot is not working so far.

/home/user # /usr/sbin/chroot debian /bin/zsh
chroot: can't execute '/bin/zsh': Operation not permitted

[with aegis-exec]
/home/user # aegis-exec /usr/sbin/chroot debian /bin/zsh
chroot: can't change root directory to debian: Operation not permitted


Anyone have ideas?

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

same for me.... good....!!!!!

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Question: How does inception stop the lag? Do I just install it and that's all (for removing the lag)?

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Yes, it does, I don't know how it does it, but it does it. :D

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

It also makes you rich and stops kittens to be killed.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Not to poop on your parade or anything, but that's nothing but a coincidence/false positive.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

this is on engadget now - http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/i...s-to-nokia-n9/

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

so we could expect to see an overclocking tool soon?

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Thanks for this. I'm not going to use it yet but maybe in the future.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

So does Inception let these options be or not? Because I don't know if it's worth to install it losing an option to control what capabilities/privileges my apps have...

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

The real reason I posted was to use the Lil Wayne image.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

If I recall correctly milestone uses TI OMAP3430. Droid X uses TI OMAP3630 which is same as N9.

However, Moto doesn't provide unlocked bootloader (even up to now). Therefore the overclock is in module, not from the kernel.

I'm so eager to see the overclock happened in N9 :) ....whatsapp of course.....draw something as well

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

twoboxen: those sound like the same issues I was having when using previous aegis hacks before the open kernel. There's no way to sign the binaries in the mounted chroot, which is why I suspect open mode will always required...

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Oh! For the avoidance of doubt, INCEPTION doesn't disable Aegis. It merely allows you to access all of the privileges within Aegis. All your existing apps are left alone, as are apps you install normally - for INCEPTION to do its job, you must use the incept utility to install apps that require it.

Also, apps that take advantage of INCEPTION still use Aegis manifests, and you can still examine them to see what privileges they require.

It's possible to use INCEPTION to disable Aegis, but no one has done this (yet) - the benefits of doing this are debatable but it would be a useful thing to have available for those who want it.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Alright, sorry for being slightly condescending in that case.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Great. I will try this now. What do nokia say about this:) They possibly remove the "hole" in PR1.3?

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

I got this after invoking pasiv .


Do you wish to proceed? (yes/no): yes

|| Stopping package-manager daemon
kill: can't kill pid 2733: No such process
pasiv: fatal error occurred
RM696-07-1_PR_001:~#

And if I use accli -I I get only these privileges .

RM696-07-1_PR_001:~# accli -I
Current mode: normal
IMEI: 35792304786xxxx
Credentials:
UID::root
GID::root
CAP::chown
CAP::fsetid
CAP::setgid
CAP::setuid
CAP::net_bind_service
CAP::sys_chroot
CAP::sys_resource
CAP::sys_tty_config
GRP::root
GRP::adm
GRP::dialout
GRP::pulse-access
RM696-07-1_PR_001:~#

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

That's a known timing-related bug - try running pasiv again.

Also, the permissions you get when using develsh will stay the same - only when using opensh will everything be listed.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

This might not be because of INCEPTION...but, any ideas?



BusyBox v1.20.0.git (MeeGo 3:1.20-0.1+0m7) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ $ devel-su
Password:


BusyBox v1.20.0.git (MeeGo 3:1.20-0.1+0m7) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ # killall -q pkgmgrd
~ # rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
~ # /usr/sbin/incept /home/user/MyDocs/Document
s/fennec_11.0_armel.deb
Do not continue unless you fully trust the package you are about to install.
Press <Enter> to cancel, or enter your root password to proceed.

Password:
Package fennec has package signature (origin 'com.nokia.maemo/local')
Selecting previously deselected package fennec.
(Reading database ... 46563 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking fennec (from .../cache/inception/tmp/pkg_ifWJ1j) ...
aegis-installing fennec (from 'com.nokia.maemo/local')
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fennec:
fennec depends on libcontentaction0 (>= 0.1.72+0m8); however:
Version of libcontentaction0 on system is 0.1.71+0m7.
fennec depends on libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0); however:
Package libpango1.0-0 is not installed.
fennec depends on libqt4-network (>= 4.7.4~git20120202); however:
Version of libqt4-network on system is 4.7.4~git20120125-0maemo1+0m7.
fennec depends on libqt4-opengl (>= 4.7.4~git20120202); however:
Version of libqt4-opengl on system is 4.7.4~git20120125-0maemo1+0m7.
fennec depends on libqtcore4 (>= 4.7.4~git20120202); however:
Version of libqtcore4 on system is 4.7.4~git20120125-0maemo1+0m7.
fennec depends on libqtgui4 (>= 4.7.4~git20120202); however:
Version of libqtgui4 on system is 4.7.4~git20120125-0maemo1+0m7.
dpkg: error processing fennec (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
fennec
incept: Installation failed (256)
~ #

thanks

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Where did you obtain that .deb from? It looks like it was compiled with the PR1.3 SDK and has dependencies that prevent it from being installed on any public firmware.

Also, there should be no need to incept things like Fennec that don't need special permissions - you can just install them normally with dpkg -i. However, that won't solve the problem you're experiencing here.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

From here
talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1175932&postcount=111

I just want something faster than Ovi store edition

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

@vzp916

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82495

that´s the Problem.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Nah, that's a different issue entirely. Better post in the original Firefox thread and mention that the dependencies in the new builds aren't compatible with PR1.2.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Anyone looking for a way disable aegis completely.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Ah thanks for finding that!
There's no. of folk having issues in the flash thread when installing the latest Fennec builds.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Yea..therefore 950 owners can do it and we cant.:(

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Can debian lxde be mounted thanks to inception?
I would really like to have OpenOffice

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Works nicely in open-mode:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82114
Sure it will eventually in inception too.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

There isn't an option to do that.....according to INABT....any way to have OpenOffice without Debian?

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

No. Open mode only at this point. Aegis must be completely disabled for Debian chroot.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

I'm still having this error after I sucessfully installed inception .

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

so, why you flooding here?

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

Cool tool, it's a shame the name is taken by another hacking tool already:

Inception is a FireWire physical memory manipulation and hacking tool exploiting IEEE 1394 SBP-2 DMA.

/shameless self-promotion :)

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

I'm not flooding and you are actually spamming . As you see I got no answer there , so now the with all these people more focused on the aegis maybe I'll get an answer . And when someone makes a new application , it's always better to report any bug/problem related to that app . :)

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

that is not an error in the first place, just some warnings in the syslog that can be ignored. And has nothing to do with installation of anything.

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

:( I wasn't aware of that (and it looks very cool - I like the logo with the totem in it). That said, I don't think anyone will confuse the two. :p

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9
 

i bet noone else knew the other tool :D lol