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MohammadAG 2012-05-09 22:31
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 1204332)
:(

It's an advantage for any platform, to have you.
The amount of talented devs on iOS makes me obsolete really.
If I move to iOS the only thing I'll miss is a forum like tmo (sure, it has it's times...), and development (I started iOS development once or twice, but got bored of having to go back and forth to/from the VM with XCode).

shmerl 2012-05-09 22:33
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1204405)
The amount of talented devs on iOS makes me obsolete really.
If I move to iOS the only thing I'll miss is a forum like tmo (sure, it has it's times...), and development (I started iOS development once or twice, but got bored of having to go back and forth to/from the VM with XCode).
What sane person would like to such draconian platform as iOS?

jotoco 2012-05-09 22:42
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1204404)
We weren't talking about Android OS. It was about conventional (X11/Wayland) Linux such as Tizen or Nemo. I thought troubles with support mentioned above were about hardware, not about the OS. I don't worry about the OS. My problem with Samsung is that their hardware design is not so good as Nokia's. But it's still better if they make some medium quality handset which would have X11 or Wayland (and the rest of Linux) drivers, than not to have anything.
I get it. But it builds a precedent that you're not having any support.

Unless the OS is truly, really, fully open, alongside the hardware drivers and all. The community devs wouldn't be able to help in many cases, and the company's support would be essencial.


And I agree. I never had or saw a Samsung device that had even half the hardware quality of Nokia. As a matter of fact, I don't think there is a single hardware manufacturer that comes even somewhat close.

Hariainm 2012-05-09 23:26
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1204316)
Not all of the developers will switch to Tizen.

I'm speaking for myself here, but when/if Maemo/MeeGo die off, and no new devices are produced, I won't move to Tizen.
[...]
The only alternatives would be Android and iOS, and tbh, I prefer the latter, the main coding language is Obj-C, which I like better than Java.
And what about Blackberry QNX / BBX ? I'm close following the news this days and is gaining momentum in me ;-)

MohammadAG 2012-05-09 23:40
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1204432)
And what about Blackberry QNX / BBX ? I'm close following the news this days and is gaining momentum in me ;-)
Totally forgot about it, we'll see how that comes out.

shmerl 2012-05-10 00:25
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
MohammadAG: Hopefully Plasma Active will come out with handset version as well at some point. Then there will be something mature to switch to :) So one would be able to get some Tizen handset, install PlasmaActive / Mer there and enjoy.

HanzBlix 2012-05-10 00:40
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1204320)
or not...
they are still more OS201x devices in the pipeline from NOKIA, just a matter of patience.
and then there is... the next billion with Meltemi devices.
most likely with Aegis squared respectively without any SDK or any such possibility, at least from factory, but as it will be build on Harmattan & Co, it may still be possible to hack 'em :cool:
hardware wise, it can't be much worse then N9 now, can it? :rolleyes:
What is this os201x you speak of?
A google search found me nothing but garbage and a link back to this post lol.

Hariainm 2012-05-10 01:17
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
@HanzBlix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo#Version_history & http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames
Maemo 5 (Nokia N900) was OS2009.

Zoxir 2012-05-10 02:19
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Well just coming in to say once again F U Nokia.

Lumiaman 2012-05-10 02:32
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
I guess N9 was not a commercial success :(

shmerl 2012-05-10 04:53
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1204481)
I guess N9 was not a commercial success :(
Interestingly, it was rather successful despite Nokia's efforts to downplay it. But you don't expect it to be the ultimate hit when Nokia themselves aren't interested, right?

Dousan 2012-05-10 07:49
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoss91 (Post 1204337)
You just shout that out. It's really great to hear mate, as it has been really quiet for some time around the Romanian front, people was startibg to get worried. Nice to know Romania still stands mate :p :D

Regards Dousan...

Dragoss91 2012-05-10 08:35
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 1204563)
You just shout that out. It's really great to hear mate, as it has been really quiet for some time around the Romanian front, people was startibg to get worried. Nice to know Romania still stands mate :p :D

Regards Dousan...
N9 was available in romania since day 1 . I also have warranty and they replaced it once so far . :D Despite the fact Romania is seen as a very poor country (is neither very rich , is very corrupted) technology has a high potential , we also have the 2nd fastest internet in the world . :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1204481)
I guess N9 was not a commercial success :(
If N9 was not a commercial success , then Lumia phones should not even exist .

Vinh 2012-05-10 08:38
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1204432)
And what about Blackberry QNX / BBX ? I'm close following the news this days and is gaining momentum in me ;-)
I hope RIM carries on the great user interface...

http://mynokiablog.com/2012/05/07/gs...-n9s-swipe-ui/

If Nokia doesn't want it, let RIM have it so we can have it!

jkingok 2012-05-10 09:23
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
I always wanted the N9 when it was announced. But when the platform was killed off in the media I couldn't justify its full price to myself.

I waited until it was locally on clearance fell in love with it and shortly after bought a second.

It's the first platform I've been able to make a marketable app for, which Nokia should be proud of its openness - not scared of.

Now that I'm happy with QML I look forward to jumping onto RIM's sinking platform (no doubt it will die shortly after I get access to it just like the N9)...

Long live the community.

PS. I'm now constantly forgetting I can't swipe when I pick up my old Android phone.

Dousan 2012-05-10 09:42
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoss91 (Post 1204579)
N9 was available in romania since day 1 . I also have warranty and they replaced it once so far . :D Despite the fact Romania is seen as a very poor country (is neither very rich , is very corrupted) technology has a high potential , we also have the 2nd fastest internet in the world . :)



If N9 was not a commercial success , then Lumia phones should not even exist .
Sorry mate didn't try to offend you at all, just pulling your leg, that's all ;)

I understoid your first post, it was just the frasing that was funny imo.

Again sorry if pushed any buttons it wasn't my intension :)

Regards Dousan...

nieldk 2012-05-10 09:48
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Guess we are lucky in Denmark, this is (translated) from their product FAQ page

What will happen to my phone if Nokia's MeeGo activities are not continued ?
Your phone is not just a MeeGo - based product - it is the latest Nokia smartphone. Anyone who buys a MeeGo phone will get all the support they need while they are using their product, including software updates , maintenance and standard support services.

Lamska 2012-05-10 09:57
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Ahh. This is bad. I bought my N9 four months ago and I still believe that this is the best phone on the markets.

I`ve got Galaxy Tab 10.1" and I don`t like it as much.
(OS I mean..)

I hope that some other manufactor buys Meego so that we can buy other devices in the future.

dumpystig 2012-05-10 09:58
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1204618)
Guess we are lucky in Denmark, this is (translated) from their product FAQ page

What will happen to my phone if Nokia's MeeGo activities are not continued ?
Your phone is not just a MeeGo - based product - it is the latest Nokia smartphone. Anyone who buys a MeeGo phone will get all the support they need while they are using their product, including software updates , maintenance and standard support services.
Only time will tell...

But I very much doubt it.

ibrakalifa 2012-05-10 10:09
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
let it be, it will become rare, collector series, litlle piece of history, be proud, :)

nieldk 2012-05-10 10:12
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1204628)
Only time will tell...

But I very much doubt it.
:) not sure how that statement will hold in court, in DK, pretty sure it is clear enough. they promise support for the period of time you use the device, also software updates.
in my terms, that means they will be obliged to keep the store open, fix bugs etc. for however long you actively use the device!
gonna grab a screenshot for evidence LOL

dumpystig 2012-05-10 10:23
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Yeah, I know what you mean. But you can bet Nokia will have all the legal angles covered - in their favour.

And their track record the past couple of years doesn't exactly instill much confidence - Maemo/N900 and Meego/Harmattan/N9 dropped like hot turds....

misterc 2012-05-10 19:43
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HanzBlix (Post 1204457)
What is this os201x you speak of?
A google search found me nothing but garbage and a link back to this post lol.
MeeGo / Harmattan is OS2011 and next version will come as OS2013

misterc 2012-05-11 22:12
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
looks like the N9 still has a few nice days (years?) in front of itself...

Nokia Reverses Course, Quietly Begins Selling N9 in United States

a few excerpts...
Quote:
Nokia today quietly initiated sales of the Nokia N9 in the United States. The phone joins the PureView 808 as being a non-Windows Phone being slated for sales in the American market.
[...]
factors may have driven Nokia’s about-face.

First, is difficulty in taming Windows Phone for some of the market demands. It has been all-but-confirmed by Nokia that the PureView 808′s high-resolution camera could not function properly with today’s Windows Phone platform. The instant-photo requirements of Windows Phone are very rigid, and 41 megapixel capacities likely require extreme resources from the handset. Only a real-time operating system like Symbian, now known as Nokia Belle, can handle such tasks currently.
[...]
But what does any of that have to do with the Nokia N9 launching, now?

This week, Nokia strategically timed the announcement of a US-bound PureView 808 with the CTIA technology show. It’s not a mistake that the N9 is launching stateside a day after CTIA ended.

With Nokia now admitting it needs to sell non-Windows Phone devices in the United States, in order to have a fighting chance at breaking even with technological investments in PureView superphones, the N9 then becomes okay to sell. Microsoft is not worried about the N9 being a threat to Windows Phone anymore, as the platform is now merely a skunkworks project for Nokia.

In fact, a thriving N9 actually gives more woes for smaller competitors, as it fractures the Tizen and Open webOS marketplaces, trying to be rebooted by Intel/Samsung, and HP, respectively. Still, neither Tizen nor Open webOS are on the market today. Hence, the N9 may become a haven for those looking for a sustainable, open phone environment.
[...]
read on for your own pleasure ¦-)

gerbick 2012-05-11 22:18
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1204910)
MeeGo / Harmattan is OS2011 and next version will come as OS2013
There are no other iterations of Maemo, MeeGo or Harmattan coming out that continue the OS20XX series. That's pure speculation sprinkled with hope to think otherwise.

That "MeGo" (sic) article about being sold in the US is a fake. Wrong size screen, wrong spelling on the OS... I do not believe it at all.

ombre 2012-05-11 22:20
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1205485)
looks like the N9 still has a few nice days (years?) in front of itself...

Nokia Reverses Course, Quietly Begins Selling N9 in United States

a few excerpts...


read on for your own pleasure ¦-)
This is not true. Better: this is not "imported" officially.
It's more likely they have stocked some units from clearance.
Nokia.com pages for us are not displaying it as part of the portfolio.

kb61 2012-05-11 22:20
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1205485)
looks like the N9 still has a few nice days (years?) in front of itself...

Nokia Reverses Course, Quietly Begins Selling N9 in United States

a few excerpts...


read on for your own pleasure ¦-)
somewhere i read that this is fake, but im not sure about it.

since amazon does not sell it anymore and a few other stores neither i was thinking about maybe getting a "backup" n9...in case mine e.g breaks.
any opionions on my thoughts?

misterc 2012-05-11 22:23
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1205488)
There are no other iterations of Maemo, MeeGo or Harmattan coming out that continue the OS20XX series. That's pure speculation sprinkled with hope to think otherwise.

That "MeGo" (sic) article about being sold in the US is a fake. Wrong size screen, wrong spelling on the OS... I do not believe it at all.
then put on your rain boots...

Quote:
Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1201951)
[...]
edit: just read the thread a little bit. yes, there a far, far more N9s than N900s.
edit2: but I will completely tear apart the N950 as soon as I'll get the successor.

mikecomputing 2012-05-11 22:55
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Why do people here still beleive Nokiafail would finally go right direction when we already knows facts that:

Nokia has removed N9 from:

Denmark
FInland
Sweden

and list probadly goes on...


and now people is stupid enought think Nokia will introduce it in US? WTF!?

Nokia is now MICROSOFTnokia! why on earth would the make N9 appear in US??? if that was the case Elop and his ashole friends would be ruined cause theyr closed source OS would sell even worse.

Btw. Meego team in finland has left the building already. There is atleast one tweet about that already...

And my guess about "next billion" is that its soon rip dead and in a half year this site is closed down in we probadly has moved on with our lifes..

And yeas I would not have said this a half yeear ago but no I finally has one conlusion about Nokia:

They have given up! and the best engineers has probadly left the building already, and hopefully we will se theyr stuff on other places.

For mee Nokia is over. Let those people like Lumiaman think ELop will success with WP. Personally I dont give a ****.

But one thing is for sure:

I beleive in QT
I believe in Ubuntu Mobile
I beleive in WebOS
I beleive in Nemo Mobile/Maemo if it gets some more contributers

The rest is just burning platforms. And Elops ashole is burning because of Ballmers c..k

Lumiaman 2012-05-12 01:43
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
pre-Elop Nokia failed. That is a fact. Nokia is not a software company and this became clear when competition stiffened.

gerbick 2012-05-12 02:16
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1205538)
pre-Elop Nokia failed. That is a fact. Nokia is not a software company and this became clear when competition stiffened.
Correction: Pre-Elop Nokia was failing, slowing down and not adapting fast enough. But outright failure? Only to fanboys and the like.

Hehehehe... you said stiffened </Beavis>

AndrewX192 2012-05-12 05:22
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
In other news, the Nokia N9 is now released in the US and available at Frys electronics?

http://www.frys.com/ads/page5
http://www.phonenews.com/nokia-selli...-states-20341/

jonnyl 2012-05-12 18:03
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewX192 (Post 1205561)
In other news, the Nokia N9 is now released in the US and available at Frys electronics?

http://www.frys.com/ads/page5
http://www.phonenews.com/nokia-selli...-states-20341/
Damn, I kinda liked being the only dude around with an N9.

Lol, I probably will still be the only one with an N9, given that it isn't being marketed at all.

Lumiaman 2012-05-12 18:32
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
N9 HAS BEEN in the US for months. I dont understand what is so special about this thread??? Amazon and multiple other vendors are selling them from the outset.

catbus 2012-05-12 19:06
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1205795)
N9 HAS BEEN in the US for months. I dont understand what is so special about this thread??? Amazon and multiple other vendors are selling them from the outset.
And maybe selling more than Lumias, funny...

misterc 2012-05-12 19:14
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
  • this thread isn't about N9 in the US but N9 not in Finland...

  • according to this article NOKIA is distributing officially N9 & 808 PureView in the US...
    not exactly in line with floppy's grandiloquence, now, is it?

the article further seems pretty unequivocal about NOKIA's management going against floppy...

guess the only reason they still keep him is for m$$$$$$'s $$$$$$$ :D :cool:

Lumiaman 2012-05-12 19:20
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
If its "official", whatever it means since there are MANY electronic outlets in the US selling it, is it on the NOKIAUSA.com site? Dont see it there

Ashbeck 2012-05-12 19:34
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Wow ive been away for a while and nothing has change, ohh well, have you guys seen the blackberry 10 UI? I'm sure mr. nokia must be pretty upset they through away swipe, well another mans trash is another mans treasure, nokia did not want it, so blackberry took it.

ombre 2012-05-12 19:39
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1205824)
Wow ive been away for a while and nothing has change, ohh well, have you guys seen the blackberry 10 UI? I'm sure mr. nokia must be pretty upset they through away swipe, well another mans trash is another mans treasure, nokia did not want it, so blackberry took it.
Mr. Nokia is very happy instead: there is room for another lawsuit, it seems to be Nokia's latest trend to file lawsuits: now they have a lot of free time in Espoo, as 80% of sw development is outsourced!

Dragoss91 2012-05-19 19:06
Re: Nokia N9 discontinued today in Finland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 1204615)
Sorry mate didn't try to offend you at all, just pulling your leg, that's all ;)

I understoid your first post, it was just the frasing that was funny imo.

Again sorry if pushed any buttons it wasn't my intension :)

Regards Dousan...
I didn't take your post as an offend , no problem mate . :D


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