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LiveLoveLeak 2012-08-11 21:10

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Nokia had their chance to release this, to say something, even to change the lock on their door. They sat, they waited, the only move they think to make is to sell off their assets. They destoryed maemo, they threw away qt, they sell patents to a troll. They already signed their pact with the devil, but it's no excuse.
It's clear I don't owe them anything. My turn, now. I may sit, but my proxies are hard at work.
Soon...

wook_sf 2012-08-11 21:26

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1250588)
wook you can do it if you are ready to put your phone into open mode :D

my phone is in more open mode than you can assume ;) but "hackers" told me that's impossible (literally) so i gave up (thought they know...) now i doubt :P

MFaroTusino 2012-08-12 04:22

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusnak-COBRA (Post 1250523)
if there is no safe option to do it, i would say, stay on PR1.2
but... MFaroTusino, can you make an image of your phone maybe, to be flashable for us, others? :)

I don't know how to make a flashable image of my phone, sorry

Arie 2012-08-12 04:43

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Yes... omg yes...

LiveLoveLeak 2012-08-12 05:23

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Wow, the dropbox got cancelled. Just deleted my post because it's useless now.
I'll try to post the newer one instead, that was only .16

Hurrian 2012-08-12 05:53

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
I'm not cool enough to be in the N950club, but can you check your systems for CMT firmware (dpkg -l | grep cmt)

I suspect that apt-get dist upgrade installs N9 radio firmware, breaking the one on the N950.

MFaroTusino 2012-08-12 05:59

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1250739)
I'm not cool enough to be in the N950club, but can you check your systems for CMT firmware (dpkg -l | grep cmt)

I suspect that apt-get dist upgrade installs N9 radio firmware, breaking the one on the N950.

It does. That is why the recommended version is to update the packages manually, and not dist-upgrade. I knew the risk when I tested my method. It can be fixed though by flashing a newer image, or updating to a new cmt. I also have a feeling that removing N9 repo, and running apt-get --reinstall install nameofcmtpackage will work. But I have no reason to test it

thedead1440 2012-08-12 06:10

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MFaroTusino (Post 1250719)
I don't know how to make a flashable image of my phone, sorry

Sparsify is your friend :) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82471

Rusnak-COBRA 2012-08-12 08:24

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
hmm, that would be an option :) but I saw some other method, really to make a *.bin (need to find)

thedead1440 2012-08-12 08:54

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusnak-COBRA (Post 1250833)
hmm, that would be an option :) but I saw some other method, really to make a *.bin (need to find)

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=303

OR:

are you talking about CODeRUS' dd backup method?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84659

Rusnak-COBRA 2012-08-12 10:12

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Yes, CODeRUS' method is the one. I see MFaroTusino already thanked for his post, so he knows how to do it :)

LouisDK 2012-09-01 17:29

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Did a Google search. Leaked PR1.3 for N950 is up on Pirate Bay.

LouisDK 2012-09-01 17:42

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Here's the output when running apt-get dist-upgrade on my N950: http://pastebin.com/2MVTQkSM I'm afraid to install them. Don't want my N950 to end up like a brick or be unflashable.

wook_sf 2012-09-01 17:45

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1259310)
Here's the output when running apt-get dist-upgrade on my N950: http://pastebin.com/2MVTQkSM I'm afraid to install them. Don't want my N950 to end up like a brick or be unflashable.

use one from tpb ;) it's safer :D

topet2k12001 2012-09-01 18:01

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259314)
use one from tpb ;) it's safer :D

It is, indeed. :)

@LouisDK, take wook_sf's advice. ;)

Milhouse 2012-09-01 18:05

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by topet2k12001 (Post 1259321)
It is, indeed. :)

Any downsides, or significant improvements over PR1.2 that make it worthwhile?

topet2k12001 2012-09-01 18:09

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 1259322)
Any downsides, or significant improvements over PR1.2 that make it worthwhile?

None that I have noticed so far in my experience. In fact my N9 is still on PR1.2 (for specific reasons, as I am writing localized content/documentation/how-to's to cater to the local folks from where I live).

wook_sf 2012-09-01 18:14

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 1259322)
Any downsides, or significant improvements over PR1.2 that make it worthwhile?

lol, epic, seems to me that pr1.3 is just updated version numbers for each package and that's it :D
hahahaha, really original nokia story...:(

Rusnak-COBRA 2012-09-01 18:19

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Wook, it's not so bad as you are saying :)
anyway, is that source from TPB reliable?

wook_sf 2012-09-01 18:52

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusnak-COBRA (Post 1259328)
Wook, it's not so bad as you are saying :)
anyway, is that source from TPB reliable?

checksum of source that was posted here was ok, so, i assume it is :)
it's not bad? it's even worse my bro... ;)

Vesuri 2012-09-01 19:44

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259327)
lol, epic, seems to me that pr1.3 is just updated version numbers for each package and that's it :D

There are around 1000 bug fixes in PR1.3. Some of them fix issues that are only encountered by a small number of users, but some of them are really worthwhile. It's definitely a more solid release than PR1.2 is. I see absolutely no point in not upgrading.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259327)
hahahaha, really original nokia story...:(

It's a well known story by now and it's all related to the February 2011 management decisions. Regardless of those, PR1.3 is the best Harmattan release there is.

Milhouse 2012-09-01 23:35

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
I saw there were some email issues in PR1.3 on N9, I'm only interested in Google IMAP email - as long as that's working fine in PR1.3 I'll give it a go on the N950.

wook_sf 2012-09-01 23:59

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259365)
There are around 1000 bug fixes in PR1.3. Some of them fix issues that are only encountered by a small number of users, but some of them are really worthwhile. It's definitely a more solid release than PR1.2 is. I see absolutely no point in not upgrading.

well, there's 1000 bugfixes and 3000 new bugs...what's point then?
regardless tracker issue, smartsearch is still most stupid thing ever...facebook...omG, that's epic fail and not to mention gtalk voice calls and video chat...huh...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259365)
It's a well known story by now and it's all related to the February 2011 management decisions. Regardless of those, PR1.3 is the best Harmattan release there is.

well, lots of things on harmattan has noting to do with 2nd11. but with coding...it's not all in copy/paste compile...there's some "addaptation" things that has to be done...you know that very well

first bug on harmattan is QTUI

Vesuri 2012-09-02 01:20

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
well, there's 1000 bugfixes and 3000 new bugs...what's point then?

3000 new bugs? No, there aren't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
regardless tracker issue, smartsearch is still most stupid thing ever...

Does it work worse than it did in PR1.2?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
facebook...omG, that's epic fail

Again, does it work worse than it did in PR1.2? No, it doesn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
and not to mention gtalk voice calls and video chat...huh...

Same question here. Are they worse than they were in PR1.2?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
well, lots of things on harmattan has noting to do with 2nd11. but with coding...

Of course it all comes down to code, but shutting down the MeeGo organization and firing all employees doesn't really improve things, does it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
it's not all in copy/paste compile...there's some "addaptation" things that has to be done...you know that very well

I know very, very well what happened in Harmattan development inside Nokia. However, I don't know what you're saying here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
first bug on harmattan is QTUI

Not much point in using it, then, is there?

My point still is that PR1.3 is quality-wise better than PR1.2 and that's a fact. There's no way around it.

wook_sf 2012-09-02 01:34

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
3000 new bugs? No, there aren't.

well, maybe not new, but we you must agree that there's many bugs in code produced only by rush in coding.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
Does it work worse than it did in PR1.2?

it doesn't work worse than pr1.2, i didn't said it does, but update is not big deal because it doesn't cover much of fixes...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
Again, does it work worse than it did in PR1.2? No, it doesn't.

it's so...lame that i really never run it, don't know why i even keep it on phone anyway :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
Same question here. Are they worse than they were in PR1.2?

i didn't noticed significant improvement in video call
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
Of course it all comes down to code, but shutting down the MeeGo organization and firing all employees doesn't really improve things, does it?

unfortunately, that's horrible truth
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
I know very, very well what happened in Harmattan development inside Nokia. However, I don't know what you're saying here.

well, some things are straight forward from linux, while others are very different. there's many lacks in console apps functions that would make life much easier
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
Not much point in using it, then, is there?

what?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259475)
My point still is that PR1.3 is quality-wise better than PR1.2 and that's a fact. There's no way around it.

yes, it is better than pr1.2 but it could be much better...

hawaii 2012-09-02 02:11

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
I'm seeding it.

Still haven't written it to my N950 though :\

Rusnak-COBRA 2012-09-02 08:22

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
i have it too, from TPB, not flashed yet.

Vesuri 2012-09-02 11:46

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259478)
well, maybe not new, but we you must agree that there's many bugs in code produced only by rush in coding.

Sure, there are bugs and there are many parts of Harmattan which really are of quite bad quality. They're not produced by a rush but by a lack of competence from whoever wrote them. However, PR1.3 doesn't introduce new bugs, which was the point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259478)
it doesn't work worse than pr1.2, i didn't said it does

You did claim that it has 3000 new bugs, right here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
well, there's 1000 bugfixes and 3000 new bugs...

...which just isn't true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
it's so...lame that i really never run it, don't know why i even keep it on phone anyway :D

Yes, Facebook is a piece of crap. Even the 1.4.0 update didn't help much. However, as said, PR1.3 is not any worse than PR1.2 in this regard. Same goes for the video call.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
yes, it is better than pr1.2 but it could be much better...

Of course. Everything could always be much better. Often you just have to settle for the best available option. In Harmattan's case that's PR1.3.

I'm only commenting here due to this claim/question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259461)
well, there's 1000 bugfixes and 3000 new bugs...what's point then?

There may be 3000 bugs but not 3000 new bugs. What would be the point in not having those 1000 bug fixes and having a system with 4000 bugs instead of 3000?

wook_sf 2012-09-02 12:18

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259613)
Sure, there are bugs and there are many parts of Harmattan which really are of quite bad quality. They're not produced by a rush but by a lack of competence from whoever wrote them. However, PR1.3 doesn't introduce new bugs, which was the point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaminj (Post 1231171)
Exciting new defect/mis-feature/regression:
When a page in the browser fails to load (or you stop it quickly), the URL bar is now cleared.
Fantastically annoying if you're browsing e.g. a Twitter backlog out of mobile coverage. I tended to load up a bunch of links in browser windows when I was on the tube that I knew wouldn't load, so I could just "reload" them when I got signal back. Can't do that anymore, as all the windows become worthless. Time to switch to Firefox?

seems like there's some...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259613)
You did claim that it has 3000 new bugs, right here:



...which just isn't true.

how can you claim that? have you tested all possible states of that machine on pr1.2 and compared it to all possible stated of machine running pr1.3?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259613)


Yes, Facebook is a piece of crap. Even the 1.4.0 update didn't help much. However, as said, PR1.3 is not any worse than PR1.2 in this regard. Same goes for the video call.

i never said it was worse than pr1.2 but i said it is not something i would call update
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259613)

Of course. Everything could always be much better. Often you just have to settle for the best available option. In Harmattan's case that's PR1.3.

well, i will never settle with something that feels like cheap chinese copy of iPhone

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259613)
I'm only commenting here due to this claim/question:


There may be 3000 bugs but not 3000 new bugs. What would be the point in not having those 1000 bug fixes and having a system with 4000 bugs instead of 3000?

that "new" wasn't bolded and maybe there's no 3000 but theres many new bugs that only needs time to come out from shadows...

Vesuri 2012-09-02 14:40

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1259627)
well, i will never settle with something that feels like cheap chinese copy of iPhone

It's very simple, then. Stop using it and stop whining about it here, since that definitely won't help anyone. There are definitely other options out there.

chenliangchen 2012-09-02 14:46

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
If you don't want to use PR1.3, then just don't use it. I personally found PR1.3 does make N950 works better and full support software such as QTweak.

If you don't believe, just use official pre PR1.2.

wook_sf 2012-09-02 14:49

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesuri (Post 1259680)
It's very simple, then. Stop using it and stop whining about it here, since that definitely won't help anyone. There are definitely other options out there.

with all respect
LOL

jflatt 2012-09-06 18:37

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
I flashed the leaked PR1.3 for N950. Works great for me, I see much improved battery life, but probably because I had so much crap on it before. The screen colors seem better, but again, maybe because I had background wallpaper hacks and such. The only thing I lost were installed apps and alarms, the rest of my data seems intact

tonberry 2012-09-10 07:31

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
ok, can someone just share the leaked PR1.3 here already? :p Appreciate a proper safe guidelines flashing PR1.3 to N950 :)

topet2k12001 2012-09-10 08:01

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonberry (Post 1264083)
ok, can someone just share the leaked PR1.3 here already? :p Appreciate a proper safe guidelines flashing PR1.3 to N950 :)

Hi Friend,

It's quite easy to find it; as mentioned in previous posts you can find it in familiar torrent sites.

As for flashing, I have played around and can confirm that the flasher app that is used for the N9 is the same version that is included in the One-Click Flasher for the N950 (I have extracted the One-Click Flasher package, compared both versions, as well as actually flashed on both versions). Instructions and commands for flashing are also the same.

The PR 1.3 that you will find in torrent sites is only the "main" image file. The "mmc" image file, you can extract it from the One-Click Flasher for N950.

EDIT: sent you a PM by the way.

The latest officially-available One-click Flasher, i.e. PR 1.2 "Beta" (if you extract it via WInZip or 7zip) contains:

1. The PR 1.2 Beta "main" image file
2. The "mmc" image file
3. The Flasher command-line application (which is the same version as the Flasher application being used for the N9)
4. Nokia Connectivity Driver
5. A "flasher.bat" file (i.e. auto-executable/batch file/script to make the whole package "one-click").

If you open the flasher.bat file let's say via GEdit (for Linux/Ubuntu) or Notepad++, you will notice that the command used for the actual flashing procedure is:

Code:

flasher.exe -F img.bin -F emmc.bin -f --erase-mmc=secure
Basically it's the usual/same flasher command used for the N9, plus the option "f --erase-mmc=secure" which means (from the flasher manual): "erase user data, ARG is erase method (e.g. secure)."

To give you confidence, here's a screenshot...let me know if it does not resize to be viewable so I can correct as necessary.

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e1ad48...285020644g.jpg

tonberry 2012-09-10 08:24

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Thanks again, perhaps can you link the image to imageshack or something so that the picture can be bigger while click on it :)

topet2k12001 2012-09-10 08:27

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonberry (Post 1264102)
Thanks again, perhaps can you link the image to imageshack or something so that the picture can be bigger while click on it :)

Um, I can but...(and I'm sorry) I find it inconvenient for me. Anyway that screenshot is basically the exact same thing that you'll see if you run the flasher command-line application that is on the N9. :) I also realize that my screenshot doesn't prove the point that I'm using the extracted version of the flasher command-line app from the extracted One-click Flasher...unless I take a video of the whole process.

To put it simply, I can tell you that there are quite a few already who have flashed to PR 1.3 and I believe it's safe...and the flasher commands are the same. :)

EDIT: Edited image in previous post so that you can click it for a bigger image.

tonberry 2012-09-10 08:40

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by topet2k12001 (Post 1264105)
Um, I can but...(and I'm sorry) I find it inconvenient for me. Anyway that screenshot is basically the exact same thing that you'll see if you run the flasher command-line application that is on the N9. :) I also realize that my screenshot doesn't prove the point that I'm using the extracted version of the flasher command-line app from the extracted One-click Flasher...unless I take a video of the whole process.

To put it simply, I can tell you that there are quite a few already who have flashed to PR 1.3 and I believe it's safe...and the flasher commands are the same. :)

EDIT: Edited image in previous post so that you can click it for a bigger image.

So basically i can just get the image file from torrent site and open the winrar for PR1.2 beta OCF replace the image file, and i am good to go?

topet2k12001 2012-09-10 08:45

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonberry (Post 1264111)
So basically i can just get the image file from torrent site and open the winrar for PR1.2 beta OCF replace the image file, and i am good to go?

You got it, my friend. :)

EDIT: when replacing the original/old "img.bin" file make sure that you rename your newly-downloaded (PR 1.3) as "img.bin" too.

ink 2012-10-06 16:07

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Hi,

I've tried to reflash my N950 with PR1.3. I downloaded firmware and OCF for PR1.2, run it, after it was extracted replaced img.bin with downloaded from torrents leaked file, switched off the phone (8+ seconds) and plugged it to the USB.

Here is the output:

...
flasher 3.12.1 (Oct 5 2011) Harmattan
WARNING: This tool is intended for professional use only. Using it may result
in permanently damaging your device or losing the warranty.

Suitable USB interface (bootloader/phonet) not found, waiting...

USB device found at bus 002, device address 039.
Device identifier: 357881040019244 (SN: N/A)
Found device RM-680, hardware revision 1124
NOLO version 2.3.6
Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_3.2012.02-6_PR_RM680
Sending ape-algo image (7096 kB)...
100% (7096 of 7096 kB, avg. 6991 kB/s)
Suitable USB interface (phonet) not found, waiting...

And nothing further, what did I do wrong?


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