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mauron85

2012-09-25 08:30

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by STVN (Post 1271773)

I installed Helium browser 2.0. When I lunch this just can see a black screen. What could be that?

try to run it from xterm:

Code:

/opt/bin/heliumreborn

And check for errors. Post them here:

ThreeM

2012-09-25 09:44

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Install qt-components-10-com.meego-compat to solve this issue. ;)

FlameReaper

2012-09-25 09:50

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Thanks for the work, mauron85. The last time I checked on Helium, I don't really feel good looking at it. The Meego's UI for it looked way better. Though, I wonder if it's still in development on N9's side or stalled already like the N900's?

mauron85

2012-09-25 11:01

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Guys, if you have any problems with running Helium, please check your installed packages with mine and report any difference.

Code:

dpkg -l libqt4-* libqtm-* qtquickcompat qt-components*

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zWQ77a4D

ste-phan

2012-09-25 11:51

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauron85 (Post 1271954)

Guys, if you have any problems with running Helium, please check your installed packages with mine and report any difference.

Code:

dpkg -l libqt4-* libqtm-* qtquickcompat qt-components*

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zWQ77a4D

Black screen overhere but I lack time to figure out the differences... :(

Paste of results:

http://pastebin.com/i0E0zFfY

canseco

2012-09-25 12:30

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

qt-components-10 and qt-components-base-theme should be installed.

Sometimes i need to hit twice to scroll, but so far no crashes.

ste-phan

2012-09-25 13:01

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

indeed, it works after

apt-get install qt-components-10

A frighteningly limited set of options (clear history, and that is it)
I hope this is intentionally to create a representative testing scope for all users and they will add sophisticated options later.

I don't like this tendency to iDumb down all mobile software.

Nice to read that a Symbian version is high on the agenda. :p

MetalGearSolid

2012-09-25 15:06

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Is there any way I can change the user agent for Helium Mobile browser ?

ste-phan

2012-09-25 15:18

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Here some more Sunspider JS Benchmarks

Nightly 12.0a1 - Total 7041.9 ms +/- 3.0%
Helium - Total 11663.2 ms +/- 2.5%
MicroB - Total 31938.9 ms +/- 2.9%

SaQ	2012-09-25 15:57

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

I have too only black screen? i have installed all qt-components you have mentioned. Whats wrong?

STVN	2012-09-25 23:30

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Nokia-N900:~# /opt/bin/heliumreborn
Preloading theme "base" from cache
qrc:/qmls/qml/HeliumReborn/main.qml:69:5: Type MainPage unavailable
qrc:/qmls/qml/HeliumReborn/MainPage.qml:26:5: Type FlickableWebView unavailable
qrc:/qmls/qml/HeliumReborn/FlickableWebView.qml:71:4: PinchArea is not a type

STVN	2012-09-25 23:31

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauron85 (Post 1271888)

try to run it from xterm:

Code:

/opt/bin/heliumreborn

And check for errors. Post them here:

mauron85

2012-09-26 06:25

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

I know this error. You have old QtQuick 1.0 instead of QtQuick 1.1. You have to install latest Qt 4.7.4.

I recommend you to install stable version of CSSU (which includes also Qt 4.7.4).
http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU

imo	2012-10-01 00:28

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

i dont know if this is only me but truly speaking ,i didnt notice much difference between the current one and previous one.It definitely loads google page faster and probably another page such as maemo.org but other than that it doesnt go beyond.It does not even search or respond to any further commands.Hopefully mauron you can get a hand on it to make it fully usable cuz it is frickin' good.best of luck .
Edit : between is there any flash support too ? ok got it , it does support flash,but still need to be seen.Has problem while browsing.

cletus

2012-10-01 04:52

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

i too m getting a blank screen, this is my output for that
/opt/bin

Nokia-N900:~# /opt/bin/heliumreborn
qrc:/qmls/qml/HeliumReborn/main.qml:2:1: module "com.nokia.meego" is not installed

what do i do?????

totalizator

2012-10-10 10:07

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by cletus (Post 1274611)

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=42

reinob

2012-10-10 11:14

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by cletus (Post 1274611)

One thing I would do is NOT to run this as root.

samipower

2012-10-10 13:58

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Helium browser , opera 12, fennec latest version or digia web and WHY??

flash 10.1.98.88 nokia real for n900 yes and with hex editor emulated v12 but and with cpu 1150 and dsp 600mhz

some 360p videos well and others bad , with lag. Sound ok and video slow

480p Nothing horrible playing, very very very slow

Why more navigators?, If with microb is the more faster and stable but flash videos very lag.

N900 default with flash 9 240p videos ok and other resolutions very bad,

n900 modified 1150mhz 600dsp , flash 10 and libraries and codecs for 720p and more browsers 240ok others resolutions very bad

where is the change?, Nothing changed in flash videos in four years

First to resolve it.

Estel

2012-10-10 14:10

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Because no one cares for shitty flash, and all complains about it - especially in unrelated threads - are redirected to /dev/null (and copy to Adobe)?

totalizator

2012-10-10 15:20

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Use standalone app like cuteTube-QML - it's great and the playback is smooth.

samipower

2012-10-10 15:47

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Estel , flash is very important, and is important for all people with n900, html5 for iphone thanks, but for others mobiles/tablets flash is neccesary (movies online, facebook games , minigames online etc..)

for example in www.shurweb.es (movies web page) the movie flash gordon is playable in 360p sound-video synchronized

totalizator yes cutetube qml is the best

bennypr0fane

2012-10-25 00:04

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by samipower (Post 1278831)

It painful I read your post.
Dude, seriously, use some grammar and punctuation, it'll help.
Terrible language wid no verbs and tipos more bad than trolling!

azkay

2012-10-25 00:07

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1285128)

It painful I read your post.
Dude, seriously, use some grammar and punctuation, it'll help.
Terrible language wid no verbs and tipos more bad than trolling!

You aren't one to throw stones.

bennypr0fane

2012-10-25 13:19

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by azkay (Post 1285129)

You aren't one to throw stones.

I was really trying to imitate samipower (and it's a bit funny you thought I was serious), but it's mean and I apologize.

It's ok if someone's English is bad. The community shouldn't be exclusive because of language issues.
But this post really made me wince, I think it's just a normal part of netiquette.
My point is, please make an effort to make full sentences or at least be understandable.
Thank you samipower for making your last post more readable.

marmistrz

2013-01-23 17:19

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

I might implement the user agent change and fix the UI problems with cut off stuff if someone wants to donate

bennypr0fane

2013-02-17 22:45

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

So, how are the updates to Helium coming over at Nemo?
Anyone maybe care to check what's new and maybe push a new version of Helium to Fremantle repos (which are, I hear back up now)?

Edit: I tried inquiring in #nemomobile IRC channel about Helium, but no one was around who knew.
I don't know if this is the authoritative page on the subject, but it doesn't look so promising for now.
On the other hand, new Nemo snapshots keep rolling in regularly, and I would be surprised if in the past 5 months none of their work had gone into the browser...

bennypr0fane

2013-03-03 15:14

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

http://veskuh.blogspot.co.at/2011/12...07324311692186

The maintainer of Nemo package for Helium says a new release for fremantle would make sense. Any takers?
Marmistrz, maybe you could clarify if the work by rburchell listed on their github is included in the current fremantle build?
Thanks, Ben

marmistrz

2013-03-03 16:16

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1326591)

Sorry, I have no idea about the current version. I was rather thinking about a surgical operation to fix the problems. (user agent, sheets cut off)
you should ask the one who pushed it to devel.

bennypr0fane

2013-03-03 16:25

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1326603)

Sorry, I have no idea about the current version. I was rather thinking about a surgical operation to fix the problems. (user agent, sheets cut off)
you should ask the one who pushed it to devel.

Oops, sorry for the mixup, that was actually mauron85. :D
So mauron85, that question goes out to you, then.

safoo

2013-03-03 18:35

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

it stucks while playing youtube videos

mauron85

2013-03-15 12:17

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1326591)

Hey. I just made diff of "veskuh / HeliumReborn" for Nemo and sources that I have. They are same. So answer to your question is: Helium for Maemo5 is build from same sources as Nemo version.

But trust nobody and compare them yourself.
Grab tarball from here:
http://maemo.org/packages/source/vie...browser/2.0-1/

bennypr0fane

2013-03-15 13:05

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauron85 (Post 1329153)

Hey. I just made diff of "veskuh / HeliumReborn" for Nemo and sources that I have. They are same.

Well the last changes to the Nemo version listed in Github are from rburchell, not veskuh:
https://github.com/nemomobile/heliumreborn
You used this package: https://github.com/veskuh/HeliumReborn ?
I don't know if it's the same as packages listed on the latter site.
Please forgive me for not comparing the source myself as you suggest. I don't know how to go about reading code and it'd just be useless to try :(

mauron85

2013-03-15 15:41

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

My bad. I though you're programmer. I've also compared rburchell repo.
This is how it can be done:

Code:

$ git clone https://github.com/nemomobile/heliumreborn

$ wget http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/h/heliummobilebrowser/heliummobilebrowser_2.0-1.tar.gz

$ tar -zxvf heliummobilebrowser_2.0-1.tar.gz

$ diff -qr heliumreborn/src/ heliummobilebrowser-2.0/src/

In this case diff - the compare program didn't found any significant diferrence.
It means the rburchell Nemo repo is pretty much same code as we have for Maemo5.

bennypr0fane

2013-03-15 17:17

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

It seems that not a lot of work has been done on Helium for half a year or so - apparently it's not much of a priority to Nemo developers.
...switching my attention back to the current tinkering in progress @Fennec, 2 promising new builds are coming up :)
Will keep an eye on Helium though, who knows if maybe the Nemo devs will present new builds as soon as tomorrow!

marmistrz

2013-03-15 17:28

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1329216)

fennec isn't webkit, and mobile sites on non-webkit suck... try iphone user agent on microb.

bennypr0fane

2013-03-15 22:13

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1329221)

fennec isn't webkit, and mobile sites on non-webkit suck... try iphone user agent on microb.

It's actually rare that I prefer to view the mobile version of a site on N900 over the desktop version.
To me, most mobile sites suck in any browser! :p

elros34

2013-03-26 12:19

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

It's good browser, but why sometimes it's not responding at once for scrolling? Is there any chance to implement tab switcher?

w00t	2013-03-26 12:25

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1329216)

It seems that not a lot of work has been done on Helium for half a year or so - apparently it's not much of a priority to Nemo developers.

there is a lot to do around Nemo, and not a lot of people working on it. i don't think anyone will deny that having a good web browser would be nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1329216)

Will keep an eye on Helium though, who knows if maybe the Nemo devs will present new builds as soon as tomorrow!

if you want to start sending patches, feel free. by no means should you wait for someone else to do the work for you - you might be waiting a long while ;)

bennypr0fane

2013-03-26 22:46

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1331932)

there is a lot to do around Nemo, and not a lot of people working on it. i don't think anyone will deny that having a good web browser would be nice.
if you want to start sending patches, feel free. by no means should you wait for someone else to do the work for you - you might be waiting a long while ;)

I have geared my mind for the prospect of having to wait for a long time. However, that still might turn out a shorter wait than the one for the day I learn to code - and then learn it well enough to contribute to this project. When that day comes, however, I'll get cracking on this first thing! :D

nokiabot

2014-07-29 14:38

Re: [Announce] - Helium Mobile Browser for N900

Any recent builds for helium ?

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