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zlatko 2012-08-02 16:04
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
@thedead1440
I also use and prefer stock browser for my daily use.
But I will say "different tools for different tasks". Some pages work better in Opera, some in stock, some in FF. My online banking works only in FF. For the page with public transport timetables in my home city I prefer Opera. And so on.

ohrn 2012-08-02 16:43
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1246472)
WTF??? Just after I spoke highly of it, I got an update and now Facebook only views mobile format, DAMN!! Ok this sucks!
Go to Settings, Advanced, User Agent and select desktop.

/ohrn

Muzimak 2012-08-02 18:51
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohrn (Post 1246538)
Go to Settings, Advanced, User Agent and select desktop.

/ohrn
Ok I take back what I said previously after reading this. It's simply brilliant now, I'm looking for a reason to make it default now lol. Did U guys try turning the phone from vertical to horizonal and noticed how quick it turns? Awesome!! My only problem as I mentioned earlier, it's not very responsive when clicking on small items unless U zoom in. Other than that I love. Firefox should be terminated.

dicksonleong8 2012-08-03 10:20
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Updated to Opera Mobile 12.00.8, still can't open local image from 3rd party app (eg. FileBox). Tried uninstall & reinstall again, still the same. Only happens to me?

kai_en 2012-08-03 10:33
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dicksonleong8 (Post 1246870)
Updated to Opera Mobile 12.00.8, still can't open local image from 3rd party app (eg. FileBox). Tried uninstall & reinstall again, still the same. Only happens to me?
Nope happens to me too. Looking for older opera Mobile deb

zlatko 2012-08-03 10:58
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
@kai_en, @dicksonleong8
I don't have this problem - just tested with Filebox. Opera is NOT default browser on my device though.

thedead1440 2012-08-03 11:05
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
I don't have the issue too as Opera is NOT my default browser...Setting it to default gives me the same issue...This has been covered by orhn too as a bug caused by Opera Mobile...

dicksonleong8 2012-08-03 11:19
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Yes, I set Opera Mobile as my default browser before this. Now I set it back to Web but still unable to open local images. I even reboot my phone. So far the only way to fix this problem for me is uninstall it

kai_en 2012-08-03 11:31
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dicksonleong8 (Post 1246897)
Yes, I set Opera Mobile as my default browser before this. Now I set it back to Web but still unable to open local images. I even reboot my phone. So far the only way to fix this problem for me is uninstall it
i set as default for testing purpose as well, similar steps taken

Hacker 2012-08-03 13:00
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
There is a question about Youtube that has not been solved by the latest update to 12.0.08. If you access m.youtube.com using Opera and play a video, then on my device, it plays on a purple-themed native videoplayer that has a button on the bottom left that opens the video gallery. If you access the same site using the N9's native browser, then the video plays in a videoplayer with a deep electric blue theme of much higher playback quality.

Solving this and the bug mentioned in earlier posts re: viewing local images in, say, Filebox, would be great.

For me, I like the text reflow in Opera, since it gives you an easy way to adjust how large the text letters are. I also like the 360 degree orientation option. I'll try this new version for a couple of days and see how it goes.

soryuuha 2012-08-06 16:33
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dicksonleong8 (Post 1246870)
Updated to Opera Mobile 12.00.8, still can't open local image from 3rd party app (eg. FileBox). Tried uninstall & reinstall again, still the same. Only happens to me?
happen to me too, and it affect wazapp image launcher

ohrn 2012-08-06 16:40
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dicksonleong8 (Post 1246870)
Updated to Opera Mobile 12.00.8, still can't open local image from 3rd party app (eg. FileBox). Tried uninstall & reinstall again, still the same. Only happens to me?
Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_en (Post 1246877)
Nope happens to me too. Looking for older opera Mobile deb
It seems that stale mime-types are not removed properly when packages are upgraded or the default browser is changed.

Try the following: Delete the file /home/user/.local/share/applications/defaults.list then enter settings and select a default browser again.

Please report back if it resolves the issue or not.

/ohrn

ohrn 2012-08-06 17:08
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 1246940)
There is a question about Youtube that has not been solved by the latest update to 12.0.08. If you access m.youtube.com using Opera and play a video, then on my device, it plays on a purple-themed native videoplayer that has a button on the bottom left that opens the video gallery. If you access the same site using the N9's native browser, then the video plays in a videoplayer with a deep electric blue theme of much higher playback quality.
Youtube serves different content to Opera and the native browser.

The page Opera receives contains RTSP video links that will be opened in the default video player on the phone.

The native browser receives a different page and the video player is part of the browser itself. I'm guessing it's HTML5 video but I have not investigated further.

In short, there is nothing to be done about it.

/ohrn

Hacker 2012-08-06 17:44
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohrn (Post 1248329)
It seems that stale mime-types are not removed properly when packages are upgraded or the default browser is changed.

Try the following: Delete the file /home/user/.local/share/applications/defaults.list then enter settings and select a default browser again.

Please report back if it resolves the issue or not.

/ohrn
This worked like a charm as soon as I deleted the file and rebooted. Thanks!

For Terminal beginners, you just open terminal and type in:

cd /home/user/.local/share/applications/
rm defaults.list

Then just reboot your phone.

Hacker 2012-08-06 18:04
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohrn (Post 1248345)
Youtube serves different content to Opera and the native browser.

The page Opera receives contains RTSP video links that will be opened in the default video player on the phone.

The native browser receives a different page and the video player is part of the browser itself. I'm guessing it's HTML5 video but I have not investigated further.

In short, there is nothing to be done about it.

/ohrn
Ohrn, if we used a custom UA with Opera that identified our device as a Nokia N9, (1) would Youtube serve the HTML 5 version of the content to our devices and (2) would our phones recognize the content and access the HTML player to play it?

Also, I was wondering if a third party app like Cutetube, which accesses the HTML browser, could be cause for hope that Opera could use some similar strategy to create a solution?

True to my word, I have been using Opera as my default browser and I am quite impressed. My use case involves a lot of reading and browsing, so Opera's strengths are helpful, like the find-on-page function and the select a word and search function. Good work.

ohrn 2012-08-06 18:30
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 1248370)
Ohrn, if we used a custom UA with Opera that identified our device as a Nokia N9, (1) would Youtube serve the HTML 5 version of the content to our devices and (2) would our phones recognize the content and access the HTML player to play it?
That wouldn't do much good since Opera doesn't support HTML5 video on the N9 and probably never will. It's way to much work to implement in a hobby project.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 1248370)
Also, I was wondering if a third party app like Cutetube, which accesses the HTML browser, could be cause for hope that Opera could use some similar strategy to create a solution?
Err? No. Opening the RTSP links to the native browser will not help, the video quality will still be bad, if it works at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 1248370)
True to my word, I have been using Opera as my default browser and I am quite impressed. My use case involves a lot of reading and browsing, so Opera's strengths are helpful, like the find-on-page function and the select a word and search function. Good work.
Glad to hear you like it.


/ohrn

dicksonleong8 2012-08-08 13:02
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohrn (Post 1248329)
It seems that stale mime-types are not removed properly when packages are upgraded or the default browser is changed.

Try the following: Delete the file /home/user/.local/share/applications/defaults.list then enter settings and select a default browser again.

Please report back if it resolves the issue or not.

/ohrn
Thanks, now it solve the issue! :D

Thanks again for your hard work on porting Opera Mobile for this awesome platform. :)

Kabouik 2012-08-08 13:19
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
I did not update Opera Mobile as I wanted to keep the version with Harmattan VKB support (though incomplete and buggy, I know, but when you know it and have the choice to use it or not, that's OK), but is there a "Copy URL" in the context menu in the next versions? It would often be useful (to me at least).

accountvip 2012-10-02 07:21
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
I cant start opera:
http://i.imgur.com/bXdex.png

Kozzi 2012-10-14 22:29
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Just learned today that Opera Mobile supports bookmarklet and unlike default browser it CAN be added to Bookmarks, not straight but doable though a bookmarking a random site and replace URL with the script.
behold, Inverted color mode using Darken !!

Code:
javascript:(function(){var%20newSS,%20styles='*%20{%20background:%20black%20!%20important;%20color:%20grey%20!important%20}%20:link,%20:link%20*%20{%20color:%20#0000EE%20!important%20}%20:visited,%20:visited%20*%20{%20color:%20#551A8B%20!important%20}';%20if(document.createStyleSheet)%20{%20document.createStyleSheet("javascript:'"+styles+"'");%20}%20else%20{%20newSS=document.createElement('link');%20newSS.rel='stylesheet';%20newSS.href='data:text/css,'+escape(styles);%20document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(newSS);%20}%20})();
Please consider adding possiblity to lock Opera orientation, so that I can use its portrait mode while lying down.

Random article from Google news:
Original:
http://i.imgur.com/cwXho.png

with Darken:
http://i.imgur.com/crXHa.png

thedead1440 2012-10-15 06:57
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Since the ability exists to have inverted colours, can it be added as a switch in settings, ohrm?

rontsikka 2012-10-16 10:33
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Hello,

I just noticed that when I am browsing the internet with Opera, the IP-address is not my own IP. The IP is located somehwere in Poland with the hostname "Opera Software Asa".

Previously I was wondering that why am I able to enter a website (piratebay) that is banned by the finnish internet providers with my mobile phone but not on my PC. Both devices were on same WLAN. Now I notice that it works with any internet connection but only in Opera and not with Firefox or stock browser.

Any ideas why is Opera doing this? Should we be worried because as far as I understand all the traffic is routed through Poland?

LavaCroft 2012-10-16 10:38
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
First off, thank you for your continued support of Maemo5 and Maemo6, dear Opera.




Quote:
Originally Posted by rontsikka (Post 1281169)
Hello,

I just noticed that when I am browsing the internet with Opera, the IP-address is not my own IP. The IP is located somehwere in Poland with the hostname "Opera Software Asa".

Previously I was wondering that why am I able to enter a website (piratebay) that is banned by the finnish internet providers with my mobile phone but not on my PC. Both devices were on same WLAN. Now I notice that it works with any internet connection but only in Opera and not with Firefox or stock browser.

Any ideas why is Opera doing this? Should we be worried because as far as I understand all the traffic is routed through Poland?
Maybe you have Opera Turbo enabled?

rontsikka 2012-10-16 10:46
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LavaCroft (Post 1281172)
First off, thank you for your continued support of Maemo5 and Maemo6, dear Opera.

Maybe you have Opera Turbo enabled?
Yes I do.

Furthermore, I just found on wikipedia that this behaviour is the basic functionality of Opera Mini :) Not worried anymore!

An9 2012-10-16 14:33
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
I had to instal the older version of opera bcz of laags to much, and the one with adapted meego keyboard sem to work well...well it's not perfect with keyboard but saves me from hours of laags!

ohrn 2012-10-18 14:23
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Hello everyone,

The update to version 12.1 should now be available world wide. See the first post for details on what's new.

/ohrn

carlosecpf 2012-10-18 15:05
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
You guys ROCK!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ohrn (Post 1282133)
Hello everyone,

The update to version 12.1 should now be available world wide. See the first post for details on what's new.

/ohrn

wout.martens 2012-10-18 15:16
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Flash not working is that normal?
via Youtube i receive the message, 'cant play this on device'

Just using it again after a long time...

myname24 2012-10-18 15:43
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Flash wont work . For youtube use default browser . And read first post before posting ...

Makeclick 2012-10-18 16:15
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wout.martens (Post 1282168)
Flash not working is that normal?
via Youtube i receive the message, 'cant play this on device'

Just using it again after a long time...
Flash only working on the Firefox!

Try m.youtube.com . I don't know if opera support .MP4? If not, open them with default or firefox if you have to.

But thank you Opera!!! :) Especially ohrn + other who still support us!!

wout.martens 2012-10-18 16:28
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by myname24 (Post 1282176)
Flash wont work . For youtube use default browser . And read first post before posting ...
Woooops :)
Kiitos!

soryuuha 2012-10-19 03:31
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Tested opera 12.1 on n9 from my _pov_

- no native vkb suppprt yet
- installed Opera will affect.image launcher for Filebox, Wazapp, etc.
- touchscreen feedback seema not working for opera's vkb, or just me?

that 's all...and sadly i need to uninstall opera.. Due to no.2 issue ...

p/s dear orhn, if i may aak, please rename all your opera thread to aomething better for dumbuser to read..for example this thread , [N9] Opera Mobile Labs 12. and for N900, [N900] Opera Mobile Labs 12

thedead1440 2012-10-19 03:45
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by soryuuha (Post 1282392)
p/s dear orhn, if i may aak, please rename all your opera thread to aomething better for dumbuser to read..for example this thread , [N9] Opera Mobile Labs 12. and for N900, [N900] Opera Mobile Labs 12
Whats wrong with the current thread title? Its better than always reading the generic [ANNOUNCE] or [N9] thread titles...The current one is a nice as it is...

efion 2012-10-19 03:58
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Opera Tab UI doesn't work anymore with 12.10.1?

Must re-install it? *and i forgot how to do it*

thedead1440 2012-10-19 04:04
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by efion (Post 1282394)
Opera Tab UI doesn't work anymore with 12.10.1?

Must re-install it? *and i forgot how to do it*
Read: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=3919

Code:
sed -i 's/Exec.*/Exec=\/opt\/operamobile-labs\/bin\/operamobile-labs -tabletui/' /usr/share/applications/operamobile-tablet.desktop

Thanks to Schturman and it'll be added in the next version of N9QT so its easier to install from there ;)

efion 2012-10-19 04:17
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1282395)
Read: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=3919

Code:
sed -i 's/Exec.*/Exec=\/opt\/operamobile-labs\/bin\/operamobile-labs -tabletui/' /usr/share/applications/operamobile-tablet.desktop

Thanks to Schturman and it'll be added in the next version of N9QT so its easier to install from there ;)
DAMN! Do you have any "intelligent search engine" or what? :D

Thanks anyway ;)

thedead1440 2012-10-19 04:24
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Oh also if you use Opera Tab UI not from N9QT but from kuzmichov (spelling?) then you would need to replace the last part of that command: operamobile-tablet.desktop must be changed to operatab.desktop

efion 2012-10-19 06:38
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
OK. tried the command, but still won't work opening Opera via Opera Tab UI icon

Though using default Opera Mobile icon works flawlessly

thedead1440 2012-10-19 07:02
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by efion (Post 1282428)
OK. tried the command, but still won't work opening Opera via Opera Tab UI icon

Though using default Opera Mobile icon works flawlessly
check in /usr/share/applications/

what is the name of your operatab.desktop; it may be different...Do it as root and it works...I just did it ;)

soryuuha 2012-10-19 07:16
Re: Introduction to Opera Mobile Labs for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1282393)
Whats wrong with the current thread title? Its better than always reading the generic [ANNOUNCE] or [N9] thread titles...The current one is a nice as it is...
nothing wrong, but dumbuser will always get.confused of course.


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