Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Yes, I did. I removed it and know it installs fine.
Thanks

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

So, this is my first problem of non-bootable N900 :)

What I had:
CSSU Testing
Kernel Power 50

So decided to upgrade to Kernel Power 51
Enabled Extras devel repository and upgraded through HAM - no problems so far.
Installed USB Mode + dependencies - also no problems except that the usb stick filesystem (FAT32) I tested was not recognized...

Decided to install u-boot (to test Nemo) according to the manual at first post of corresponding thread:
Installed these 2 u-boot packages in xterm with dpkg -i
Enabled Extras-devel repo and installed kernel-power-bootimg with apt-get

Now the N900 does not boot up
With keyboard closed it just says "Starting kernel" and then soon the device turns off
With keyboard open it shows the boot menu, but trying to choose there either the default kernel or kernel power51 the situation is the same - it just says "Starting kernel" and then soon the device turns off.
I can boot the Nemo from the sd card.

Any ideas what could go wrong?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Read U-boot thread here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...u-boot&page=39 u have this problem not alone :)
Try install bit older version it should work http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=391

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Thanks! It seems, that it is time to learn how to flash the kernel???

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

@Helmi
looks like we dont need the charger module.
Just leave the screen on while charging with bme.
I ran Jdownloader for 8h now.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Yes,
1. Install flasher-3.5 from here http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-d...-downloads.php
2. Copy attached kernel where u installed flasher-3.5
3. Connect phone with holding 'U'
4. Type in flasher-3.5 console :
Option A:
It flash your kernel.

Option B:
Just loads, not flash kernel.

Choose which way u want, u can only load kernel without flashing then remove u-boot and install older version. Or just flash.

All info that i posted here can found in wiki http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_t...rt_topic.21.29

Kernel:
http://www.failai.lt/ud162ttc8ux0/zI...10-power51.htm

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

worked like a dream, nd m glad kp50 remained in the multiboot option

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

firstly im elated that theres still work being done!!! thanks a lot. however my n900 doesnt show open wifi networks ... or any wifi networks.

a bit too early .. loos like its workig now. thanks for the assist

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

After installing KP51 and USB mode I don't have access to Internal memory as well to SDCard.

Even as i removed USB mode it seems like there is no memory nor SD.

When I connect the device to a PC as mass storage, it recognize the device and the SD but ask to enter disc to it.

anyone ?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

I have no malice, I just made about the BUG.

I do not think I should have said "Thank you very much,"

Does the application have a BUG, not allow others to put forward?

I just tell the truth!

Add that I never use the kernel power

I am only responsible for testing only!

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Now, being such a marvelous tester, you should at least read the OP.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

No they're not loaded by default, but I assume from other posts after yours that you've thanked, you already know where they're located.

...or just point the applet in question to the directory of /opt/packet-injection-modules/`uname -r`/ which should always point you to the current power-kernel's version of those drivers, even once kernel changes.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

It would be hard, as the path is read in applet using gconf, i found it impossible to go to /opt partition using its directory selection dialog, but in case anyone's interesed, I managed to change settings of status area wlan driver selector applet with command: Now old drivers can be deleted from MyDocs ;)

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

http://www.failai.lt/ud162ttc8ux0/zI...10-power51.htm link not working

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Tried to use Joikuspot today. It does not work anymore. I can open it and I can set up a connection with my Laptop, but no data arrives the Laptop. Is the new Power-Kernel the reason? When I used Joikuspot two weeks ago, everything worked perfect.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Try QtMobileHotspot, it's FOSS replacement that works much more reliably.

OTOH, reportedly, Joikuspot works well for other people (still, no good reason for using it, anyway).

/Estel

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Thanks. QTMobileHotspot is working very nice. :)

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Thanks for finding, but it wouldn't it be easier/better/one-time-neccessary to do that
?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Thanks for this update but am not able to update it neither via HAM nor via XTerminal. Help Pls

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

i found the following issue

the phone starts getting hot near the USB port side, and the battery starts to drain really fast when monitor mode is started
i have tested this with injection drivers loaded and without them and the same happens in either case, i'd leave the phone on a cool table with monitor mode enabled and nothing else running, after about 10 mins when picking up the phone it is really noticeable that it is hot on the left side, after turning monitor mode off it starts to cool down again and the battery dose not drain so fast like before

i dont know if the same issue was there with KP50 as i didn't set the wlan to monitor mode long enough to notice this

this may be normal due to the Wlan not going into power saving mode while in monitor mode, but i hope if someone can confirm or provide more info about the issue

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

I still have the KP50, and recently having problems with batterry/heat.
Recently installed new CSSU update and bnf but it went fine for a few days.
(Read: I didn't yet updated to kp51 but have similair problem, i think it is not the case).
To prevent my device wear off I locked it to 500 and plugged out the cable. My batterry temperature dropped from 44 to safe 32 celsius but it discharged. Any help appreciated.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Upgrade to KP51 and if the problem continues, please provide some data, starting with powertop output

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Seems I'm acting dumb. I recently used a few times my N900 as cellular modem for my Laptop. Last time I mistakenly put the phone where the only fan air output of my laptop is, and it heated up to 52 Celsius. Seems like false alarm of mine. Now I'll try to finish download and not kill my phone, later I will make sure if anything is okay while my phone is in a safer place. I may consider an upgrade of KP but I am hospitalised and there's no free wifi here (and for me GPRS packets are a bit costful).


EDIT: now is 38 celsius on only charger detached aside of not puttingin hot air flow. It seems most of things are okay after an hour (charger was detached for faster cooling).

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Pali, according to:
http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-settings/

...there was version 15 of kernel-power-settings (I even have it installed on one of my devices), but it was removed manually by X-Fade. do you know anything about it?

It creates kinda fubar situation - now, kernel-power-settings is only one package in whole repositories, that doesn't have -devel installation candidate at all - it lives only in -testing and extras, as version 14. -devel is literally empty, when it comes to kernel-power-settings

This situations is present for almost month already, mind You.

/Estel

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Either I broken my charging chip/batterry or there actually is a bug/incompability in KP51r1.
I upgraded in last minute, and nokia default batterry meter shows broken "almost empty", while bnf confirmed it is still 33% full (it perhaps uses i2c method once when run and closes).
Seems some new driver version miraclously conflict with bme (and now checked my fool steps and were none).
Anyway it seems even faster than before perceptfully. Hope that confused bme wouldn't decide to shutdown.

Edit: it shows "calibration needed : 0" and measured batterry capacity changed, but I didn't run the calibration script, could it have calibrated naturally via long charging or it indicates something broken here (it could broke something after me beeing so blunt to allow 50 celsius and not shutdown instantly to prevent overheat).
It shows "almost empty" again and again, will ccheck after next reboot.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

I can't boot kp51 with U-Boot. It gets to "starting kernel", then screen goes black, powers off. My U-Boot version is "U-Boot with Nokia PR1.3 kernel 2012.04-1" Maybe there is a newer version?
The stock kernel boots fine.
I had kp50 before that, in U-Boot bootimage, this used to work.
After updating extras-devel, kp51 became available in HAM, but kernel-power-bootimg is not there - I was able to install it via apt-get though.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

I don't have "/opt/packet-injection-modules/current" directory (symlink) on my N900, only /opt/packet-injection-modules/2.6.28.10-power51.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Edit kp51 item file in folder /etc/bootmenu.d/

Change:
ITEM_OMAPATAG=1
to
ITEM_REUSEATAGS=1

because kp51 bootimg item file is applied to work with newest 2012.04-2 version not 2012.04-1

then u-boot-update-bootmenu and happy using. :)
P.S why you don't use latest version of u-boot 2012.04-2 ?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

you mean install u-boot-update-bootmenu? or update it? :confused:

I wasn't aware there was a newer version of U-Boot. I didn't get a notification in HAM - or after running apt-get update.
How do I upgrade? After I do, do I still need to make those changes to kp51, or should it work as-is then?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Yes, sorry for being misunderstandable.
Of course I meant to create a symlink on your own.
Or even better by installation script of kp and then use this "/opt/packet-injection-modules/current" directly (so gconf editing only needed once, maybe also via kp installation, pali?).

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Best would be to include an /etc/init.d script in kp package which would set this symlink on every phone reboot, imagine having 2 or 3 versions of kp installed at once, then one would have e.g. /opt/packet-injection-modules/2.6.28.10-power51 and /opt/packet-injection-modules/2.6.28.10-power52 , sometimes booting kp 51, sometimes kp 52 - it should be set like /lib/modules/current - on every reboot. Or, maybe even better, just create a symlink to /opt/packet-injection-modules in e.g. /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power51/packet-injection-modules, then they could be accessed under path /lib/modules/current/packet-injection-modules - any comments about that from someone more experienced in kernel development? would it be bad, good?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

@misiak,

I think the best would be simply to copy (not symlink) the modules on /lib/modules/whatever-kernels-you-want

I don't see the point in having kernel modules under /opt or Mydocs or who knows where.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

MyDocs would be indeed stupid, as this one gets unmounted when you connect N900 to computer as mass memory, but I don't agree that it should be in /lib/modules instead of opt. Many people are not using them and they are >500kb and, as not essential for running kernel with working wifi, I agree with maintainer's decision to place them in /opt. See official packaging guidelines - these modules are now part of kernel power, but I somehow feel it's wrong to place these 500kb in rootfs (and let's not forget they started as a separate package, this is only first stage of their inclusion in official kernel power packages).

I still believe they could be symlinked, not placed in /lib/modules/proper-kernel-version/packet-injection-modules , but that's just my oppinion based on stuff I wrote earlier in this post.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

I'm also experiencing battery problem. I was charging it few hours and battery stayed on the same level. after replugging the charger i was able to rechearg battery. Now I'm experiencing increased power drain.

I also installed package with gui for USB host mode, nothing else has changed in my system

Edit:
After a playing a while with different host mode options(and no device connected to usb) i pluged n900 to charger and led was blinking with little almost red light, not normal one - small and barely visible. There is something definitly wrong with new kernel.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

About my batterry measure bug.
It seems some nokia stuff (or were it CSSU?) couldn't read batterry info while charging behaves properly, and bnf was not fooled by this bug.
Both default statusbar widget and custom desktop widget which is set to mimic original batterry meter shows almost empty (the second is supposed to get more detailed info and is showing 5mAh since i felt asleep).
Bnf seems to read batterry info most directly and instantly and shows that overnight it discharged from about 400mAh to about 300mAh, and now is saying properly charging while the charger is connected.
It also seems bme is not fooled enough to force shutdown. It got 40 celsius now while charging.

I really should test my device with powertop... What was proper command to redirect powertop result to file (it would be easier to copy here, and I'm confused with 4 different "send to file" operators in linux shell... Anyway I'm too lazy to rewrite and prefer copy the info by the device)?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...40&postcount=1 If you read this carefully you should find answers for all your questions.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

The phone was turned off due to battery being empty, i plugged the wall charger to charge the phone while it was still turned off ,placed it in a cool place,i did not turn it on at all, after the battery was charged (green LED) i left it connected to the charger for a about 2 hours,

after that time when i picked it up it was really hot, dangerously hot!
the battery was hot and so was the left side of the phone,
i think i never left it charging while it was turned off before to notice this, now i'm doing all of those test (have a bit of free time) i'm noticing strange things

ok so common sense says the phone is off nothing is running, right?
the charging chip should stop charging the battery when it detects full charge (either by measuring temp or by the cell reaching 4.2V like any good lithium battery charger to prevent over charging the battery and reducing it's life or in some cases if the battery protection circuit fails the battery may catch on fire)

so why it is getting hot after it charged the battery, it should cool down, not keep getting hot!

i have KP51 installed for a while now and i'm noticing strange things

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Yeah strange things. I think those are older rare indirect outcoming of bugs. Just now it happens more frequently. There is a deep bug related to charging and kernel which seem to be here since kp49, but until the update to kp51 only 2-4 occurences were catched, including older mine with borked video player when battery were near to entry (reboot and charge up cured the bug temporary then). It seems one of these bug which are conditional bomb (happens only when specific conditions happens, I refer to bug/worm behaviour, not the real bomb). I guess latest CSSU update make such condition much more common AND the bug worsened in kp51. Please remind me proper powertop to file comand because I want to post it here for pali or freemangordon checking if it is good or problem (I'm not that good at reading powertop so I have to post it whole and hope to copy-paste). I have problem at isolating my problem to single cause (there can be at least two causes at once and I'm bad at not doing something coindeincialy).

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

Fine. I just don't see why some non-essential modules come with kernel-power-modules (and are installed under /lib), like xfs (500kb), nfs, ipv6, cifs, reiserfs, ntfs, hfsplus, jbd2, jbd, etc. (to mention only the bigger ones), but at the same time keeping the injection modules at a kernel-independent directory (and not even in rootfs so they could be loaded at boot).

But yeah, it's a matter of taste.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel
 

My charger is getting really hot while charging. I'm going back to kp50.