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HtheB 2012-09-07 11:10

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 48GX (Post 1262539)
hello,

I never look posts at n9/n950 forums, a shame.

it is very interesting what has done that guy from russia but as I see the 32gb is from an n97 and he says that his n9 is slower.

Do you think it is possible to upgrade our eMMC?

regards

N97?... I'm kinda thinking now that it should also work on the N950 then...

48GX 2012-09-09 19:19

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
hello!

is as easy as a swap doing that change?

I'm talking only in hardware way.

thanks!

48GX 2012-09-13 12:59

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
hello,

no news?

if that guy was capable ( supposed ) to swap a 32 eMMC from a N97 to a N9 and as I found n97 and N900 have the same eMMC it would be possible to swap a 64gb eMMC to an N900...



where can i find eMMC chips?

regards.

chenliangchen 2012-09-27 10:30

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Today I went to a cell phone repair centre asking if they can change the emmc. They have no problem changing the chip, but no one can disassemble N950, they never see it and afraid of breaking the device...

Estel 2012-09-27 10:47

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Sure, they can change chip, but are unable to unscrew 4 torx'es, and few more PH's. Yea. I belive them, and I would give them my device for messing with, without second though.

C'mon, it's becoming ridicolous.

chenliangchen 2012-09-27 11:04

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1272891)
Sure, they can change chip, but are unable to unscrew 4 torx'es, and few more PH's. Yea. I belive them, and I would give them my device for messing with, without second though.

C'mon, it's becoming ridicolous.

I truly believe they would mess up my device. They usually do the emmc swap for some basic android phone, some htc/samsung or even Chinese made Shenzhen based "phones" (you know what I'm talking about), these devices have no more than a screen, a battery and the main board, and full of cheap plastics. The 4 screws on the back of N950 was (supposed?) for the battery. For a full disassemble, you need to remove the 7 cross screws at the back of screen while slider is open, and then the screen, slider and keyboard.

I do believe it's out of their ability. I will find someone familiar with the Nokia E7 to do this, shouldn't be too much difference.

I hope this does not sound rediculous to you...

Estel 2012-09-28 01:21

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Don't worry, I know what You mean - I've disassembled N950 (completely) myself. Furthermore, I've assembled it back, and it's working! ;-)

What I mean't, is that I'm quite sure, that they would either destroy Your device while trying to change eMMC, or refuse to try, even when given disassembled unit. I refuse to believe, that someone so amateur to the point of inability to disassemble (quite easy) N950, could properly identify chip needed for successful swap, and perform it flawlessly, on so "custom" device.

As You've said, they have experience with generic phones, and probably, only with them.

/Estel

Hurrian 2012-09-28 11:12

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
You say they were swapping chips between the N97 and N9/50?

If true, that automatically means that the N900, N9 and N950 share similiar eMMC chips. We should then proceed to mass-order the chip used in the 64GB N9, and make the N900 the king of mobile storage once again, then proceed to augmenting our N9/50s.

Estel 2012-09-28 16:54

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
But N900 is king of mobile storage capacity f just put 64 GB microSD card inside :p remember, N9/50 doesn't have microSD slot.

Anyway, I got Your point - just teasing.

/Estel

chenliangchen 2012-09-28 16:58

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1273486)
But N900 is king of mobile storage capacity f just put 64 GB microSD card inside :p remember, N9/50 doesn't have microSD slot.

Anyway, I got Your point - just teasing.

/Estel

That's the sadest thing on my N950 unfortunately. But I will keep trying though...

RiD 2012-09-28 17:17

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1273486)
But N900 is king of mobile storage capacity f just put 64 GB microSD card inside :p remember, N9/50 doesn't have microSD slot. (...)

(a bit offtopic) Isn't there a Galaxy S3 w/ 64GB internal + microSD slot? This means it won't be the king, but "on par". (Unless if S3 does not support 64gb cards...infact, does the n900 even support them?)


Sorry for the little bit of offtopic... not being able to use my n900 for some weeks has driven me nuts...

sjgadsby 2012-09-28 18:58

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RiD (Post 1273498)
(Unless if S3 does not support 64gb cards...infact, does the n900 even support them?)

The N900 will support the cards, but it will not support the cards' default exFAT format. You'll need to choose a different filesystem for your 64 GB card should you want to use it in an N900.

Rusnak-COBRA 2013-01-23 18:51

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Hey, did you get anywhere forward with this? did someone get in touch with those russian guys? I know russian lang, i am registered there too...

everyone was a hero, but no results? ah...

chenliangchen 2013-11-24 17:24

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
I have found a nice guy working for Nokia on repairing devices who is willing to do the service of changing emmc. In fact, he has already changed my broken sim tray on N950 (with a spare part ordered for N8, since Nokia does not have any spare part stock for N950, we asked).

Now the question is, where to find a new emmc chip as N9 64GB? If taken from N9 board there is a high chance for breaking it, is there any way to order the chips matching the pin?

(No, Nokia only provides the chip WITH the mainboard on N9...)

juiceme 2013-11-24 21:40

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1388624)
Now the question is, where to find a new emmc chip as N9 64GB? If taken from N9 board there is a high chance for breaking it, is there any way to order the chips matching the pin?

As of current, it is impossible to get those from anywhere since it is not even actually known who makes the part. It has been specified/ordered by Nokia from some subcontracting chip fab and it is not available commercially :(

chenliangchen 2013-11-25 00:08

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1388665)
As of current, it is impossible to get those from anywhere since it is not even actually known who makes the part. It has been specified/ordered by Nokia from some subcontracting chip fab and it is not available commercially :(

It's a Samsung emmc chip. Pictures from previous talk also confirms it. Just don't know the actual pin size. There should be a way to order but probably in large amount, like raspberry pi...:o

SourenAraya 2013-11-25 01:56

Re: Changing chip on N900 N9 or N950? (like upgrading the N950 to 64GB or upgrading ram on N900)
 
In SGSIII eMMC not just eMMC. Its eMMC+MDDR, MCP (multi chip package). AFAIK there is one chip with 64GB, KMV6U000LM but i am not sure about physical size.
Samsung MCP


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