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Acurus_ 2012-09-03 19:46

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
This ones are free:

www.open-linux-phone.com

www.open-smartphone.com

www.linuxsmartphone.com

www.linux-smartphone.com

shmerl 2012-09-03 19:51

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
I don't like the term "smartphone", it doesn't sound smart to be honest. Plus the scope should not be limited with handsets, it should include any mobile devices.

Acurus_ 2012-09-03 19:56

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
www.linux-device.com

is free, as well.

jalyst 2012-09-03 19:58

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
IMO Linux is TOO generic/tacky, the Maemo's, MeR_flavours, & NITdroids are much more than just Linux.
This one's kinda a lame & a bit too narrowly focussed, but I'm putting it out there anyway, how's about Jozilla!? :p

shmerl 2012-09-03 20:03

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
While opendevices kind of name sounds good, the domain name can be anything, since it's just a first name.

For example: edraithaear means "open sea" in Sindarin ;) (aear means sea).

gregoranderson 2012-09-03 20:04

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Aeolos is good, and I would like to throw "Aeris" into the hat (Latin for Wind).

If we carry on down the Finnish route, I'd suggest "Mixu" ; if only for that hat-trick against the Yams.

Acurus_ 2012-09-03 20:05

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
www.tux-mobile.com

www.open-mobile-device.com

www.open-mobile-devices.com

Acurus_ 2012-09-03 20:09

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
www.open-device.com seems to be free

Not fee are:

www.open-devices.com
www.opendevice.com
www.opendevices.com

shmerl 2012-09-03 20:10

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
.com isn't really fitting. Better to use .org or .net

XiliX 2012-09-03 20:12

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I like Aeolos, sounds nice.

Acurus_ 2012-09-03 20:14

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
I like it, too!!

erendorn 2012-09-03 20:29

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
I still think we can separate the site name and the NFP name, and as such all variations are ok (Hildon fundation, Eolos fundation, or else)

For the site, mer-community is available on all main domains, though.

shmerl 2012-09-03 20:33

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
mer-community.net (.org) sounds good.

jalyst 2012-09-03 20:42

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Once we have a majority consensus on the NFP name, if there's no domain available for it*, then we can always use something similar or totally different.
It's not even critical that the NFP have it's own dedicated site, ofc in a perfect world the community site_name/domain would be based on the NFP name or be similar.
(maemo.org for archiving all the old content legally/practically must stay of course)

*depending on the popularity of the candidates we short-list, it may even be worthwhile seeing if we can secure the domain/s from current owners

sifo 2012-09-03 20:44

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
talk.maerno.org :) seems similar.

caveman 2012-09-03 21:18

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
let's be creative and invent a new word/acronym:
free your device -> fyde
so 'fyde.org' and 'free your device foundation'
which has a cool ambiguity in the name

Win7Mac 2012-09-03 22:08

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
tmo.org
keep talk.maemo.organization as subtitle/name for the entity

zlatokosi 2012-09-03 22:28

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
INTERNETTABLETTALK.COM

I never liked the maemo change anyway...

Martinhsl68hw 2012-09-03 23:24

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
teeyemmo.com

Win7Mac 2012-09-03 23:39

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
n9x.org
it'll most probably be for N900 and N9/50 mainly, right?

lonk 2012-09-03 23:46

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zlatokosi (Post 1260537)
INTERNETTABLETTALK.COM

I never liked the maemo change anyway...



this is the best suggestion

sjgadsby 2012-09-03 23:57

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1260439)
...and the 'opposite' one is called lodos (a south wind). But unfortunately, poyraz.org is not available anymore and i dont like the second one.

I will defend the land name of Lodoss with my life!

MartinK 2012-09-04 00:08

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1260576)
I will defend the land name of Lodoss with my life!

Yep, that thought also crossed my mind. :)

thedead1440 2012-09-04 06:43

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
I'll stick to Aeolos Foundation and maemo.org

Maybe start a poll on this thread?

jalyst 2012-09-04 06:46

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1260671)
I'll stick to Aeolos Foundation and maemo.org
Maybe start a poll on this thread?

As mentioned in one of my earlier posts we may be able to secure aeolos.org too (or one of the 3 other variations).
But I guess we wait & see which are the most popular names for the NFP entity first.
Too busy ATM, but soon I'll list all the suggestions in the OP, and then tally-up the +1's for each.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zlatokosi (Post 1260537)
INTERNETTABLETTALK.COM
I never liked the maemo change anyway...

Already suggested, and I explained why it's inappropriate IMO:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...16#post1260416
I could elaborate further than that, it was just a brief rationale...
Remember we're determining the most popular/suitable NFP name, ideally the domain's based on that.
If the domain's taken & not obtainable we can use something similar, totally different, or maemo.org.

Maybe there is hope for the future after all, whatever we morph into, if WebOS community can do this, we can:
http://m.webosnation.com/2012-webos-...20220-homebrew

rotoflex 2012-09-04 09:09

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
So far, I like tmo.org best. It's brief, & even if it's not descriptive, neither is aeolos or even maemo.org without learning first what they mean. It seems the chief objective is to be a memorable web address.

I also think that aeolos, aeolus, eolus, & other mythology-based names are less attractive candidates because they have other associations, & just the associations may deter others. Also, I think the name should be something that is not prone to misspelling by various people.

And although I generally like to be positive & not criticize things that I personally have nothing to do with, I would like to say that I have thought that internettablettalk was one of the worst website names I'd ever seen mentioned. Prone to misspelling, can carry as baggage with the 'talk' portion a perception as being just gossipy & nonproductive, & really just corny. Plus "Internet Tablet" already sounds like something from 1998 - antique & corny.

'linux-smartphone' is descriptive, direct, & fairly unencumbered with baggage, but I think it has too many letters & a hyphen is sort of the speed bump in any web address. 'opensource-smartphone' has the same drawbacks.

thedead1440 2012-09-04 09:19

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Rotoflex, maemo.org will be the domain name in which talk.maemo.org will be included [as per Council's understanding with Nokia]...

Its about the NFP's name that is the concern hence Aeolos as it is better than the current Hildon Foundation proposed by the council as Hildon tends to cause divisions and since Aeolos was King of Winds its quite apt to prevent divisions etc...

IMO, anything with openXXXX in it is very corny and lame...I mean open-device etc just sound uncool...My 2 cents...

zlatokosi 2012-09-04 13:00

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1260673)
As mentioned in one of my earlier posts we may be able to secure aeolos.org too (or one of the 3 other variations).
But I guess we wait & see which are the most popular names for the NFP entity first.
Too busy ATM, but within the next 24hrs I'll list all the suggestions in the OP, and then tally-up the +1's for each.

Already suggested, and I explained why it's inappropriate IMO:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...16#post1260416
I could elaborate further than that, it was just a brief rationale...
Remember we're determining the most popular/suitable NFP name, ideally the domain's based on that.
If the domain's taken & not obtainable we can use something similar, totally different, or maemo.org.


Honestly, I don't get Aeolos. This is just my opinion, but:

1. It's hard to spell. Like Maemo. (Eolos? Eolus? Aiolos? Aeolos?)
2. It's hard to pronounce. Like Maemo. Maybe not in English, but think global here.
3. Yeah, I get it. It's a wind. What that has to do with a NFP foundation, I don't know or understand. Maybe I should ask Nokia, heh.

Jalyst, I have come to respect your opinion through the years on this forum. But honestly, and I read your post, I don't understand why ITT would be innapropriate. IMHO, it's as inappropriate as Aeolos. Shares the same roots, applies to the same products (NITs), ...

Granted, the times have changed since internettablettalk went online. Back then, the average Joe didn't even associate tablets with technology... But the idea is the same, right? Add the mobile telephony element and we have pretty much the same thing. Mobile devices are becoming what the original NITs aspired to be, plus telephony of course. Look at screen size, touchscreen, connectivity... Grab a 770 and put it next to a SG3, and you'll see what I mean.

That's why I like internettablettalk, it goes back to the roots. It's generic enough to include everyone and everything. If the "talk" at the end is innappropriate, name it the IT Foundation. I'm assuming the foundation aspires to create an environment that is not device centric.

Aeolos? Cmmon. I could recite fifty generic names like that and it wouldn't make a difference in terms of recognition, likeability, or meaning. And for those that speak ancient greek (or enjoy greek mythology), well fine, touche. :)

Just my 2 cents.

rotoflex 2012-09-05 06:07

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1260771)
Rotoflex, maemo.org will be the domain name in which talk.maemo.org will be included [as per Council's understanding with Nokia]...

Its about the NFP's name that is the concern hence Aeolos as it is better than the current Hildon Foundation proposed by the council as Hildon tends to cause divisions and since Aeolos was King of Winds its quite apt to prevent divisions etc...

Thank you for the clarification. If it's not going to be the domain name or name of the website in bold letters at the top of the page used for consumer-directed product branding, but only the name of the NFP entity, Aeolos seems OK to me.

jalyst 2012-09-05 06:32

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1260771)
Rotoflex, maemo.org will be the domain name in which talk.maemo.org will be included [as per Council's understanding with Nokia]..

That's not a complete given, we may eventually to move to a domain or branding (heading at top instead of domain) that best encapsulates Maemo, MeR, & NIT.
But deciding on a foundation name is the most important first step...
Still busy ATM, will come back to this first thing next Monday, please keep the ideas flowing in the meantime....

woody14619 2012-09-05 19:31

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Wow... 3 pages on ideas for names. Can I ask a favor?

A> Pick something soon. (Start a poll or something...)

B> While your hamsters in your mind are churning, trying to come up with a good name: Head over to the bylaws thread and give them a read, and comment on them?

We could have the best name in the world, but without solid input on the bylaws, a great name means nothing.

jalyst 2012-09-05 23:35

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Well, I did reference that thread in the very 1st post, & we've been at pains to make clear that the by-laws themselves are important, not sure what the colourful post is about? O_o
Is next Monday okay? (see my post above yours) Be good to have at least a little time so that the word gets out, & that many more can have their say...

TimusEravan 2012-09-07 10:40

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Keep it simple like.. how about "MaemoNX"?
For Maemo OS on Nokia Nxxx phones
and NX can also mean Next which is the next step for this community.

erendorn 2012-09-07 12:22

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimusEravan (Post 1262550)
Keep it simple like.. how about "MaemoNX"?
For Maemo OS on Nokia Nxxx phones
and NX can also mean Next which is the next step for this community.

Cannot include "maemo" (trademark)

Wikiwide 2012-09-07 13:12

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimusEravan (Post 1262550)
Keep it simple like.. how about "MaemoNX"?
For Maemo OS on Nokia Nxxx phones
and NX can also mean Next which is the next step for this community.

Quick reply...
Mistral, Chinook, Fremantle, Harmattan are winds, all over the world.
Maemo is an obscure word. Generated by password generator and human's imagination. It can be 'translated' (Google translate, phonetic transliteration) as "Mama" from Arabic, "We have" from Belarusian, "Mom" from Bulgarian, "Horse demon" from Chinese, "memo" from Gujarati and Swahili, "Memo" from Hindi and Kannada and Telugu and Urdu, "Even before" from Japanese, "Mamo" from Persian, "MEMO" from Tamil, "We" from Ukrainian. "Horse devil" (馬惡魔) is my personal favourite.
MeeGo, Mer and Nemo are touched upon, too.
MeeGo might be standing for "me on the go".
Hildon an obscure word with many meanings.
Mer is an unknown, too.
Nemo, part of Mar, is 'nobody' in Latin.
Maa-emę, Maanemo, Manemo is Mother Earth. "Manemo", or "Maanemo", is a possible candidate: does not contain "maemo", is a synonym of "Maaemę", contains "nemo".
I have nothing against Aeolos, a name shared by three mythic characters, the ruler of the winds. But it's Greek, and no other names were derived from Greek mythology/language, were they?

erendorn 2012-09-07 15:13

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 1262626)
Mer is an unknown, too.
Nemo, part of Mar, is 'nobody' in Latin.

Mer is for Meego Reloaded, and is the french word for "sea". Nemo is then probably for the captain (riding the sea).

qwazix 2012-09-07 15:17

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Meltemi was Greek, but that one never made it...

Stskeeps 2012-09-07 15:58

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
FWIW, please check with the Mer advisory board before naming anything Mer <something>..

SD69 2012-09-08 16:38

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1260771)

Its about the NFP's name that is the concern hence Aeolos as it is better than the current Hildon Foundation proposed by the council as Hildon tends to cause divisions and since Aeolos was King of Winds its quite apt to prevent divisions etc...

My personal opinion is that Hildon is a deserved homage to the original creativity that eventually led us to the maemo that we have today:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=27

It is not divisive or disrespectful to give a tip of the hat to where we came from.

I am not aware of these "divisions." I hope no one is making the mistake of thinking that something like the name means that the new entity will not be supportive of Qt, QML, etc.

joerg_rw 2012-09-09 14:16

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!
 
A bit weird when people insist in taking into account the disruption in naming (maemo->meego, missing hildon names) that Nokia introduced with harmattan, while in same sentence they insist in meego actually being maemo6.

My 2 cents: While I'm absolutely happy with the name Hildon-foundation, I also think the name Aeolos-foundation in whatever spelling has a real good point in the rationale behind it. But in the end it all will be just the name of the foundation and the URL where you can read the bylaws and foundation's oragnization related stuff.
For everything else we will most likely keep domain names, hell for some domains (e.g. repositories) we even mustn't change domain names, so no reason to get yourself a headache about all that. The headache will start when Nokia refuses to edit the maemo DNS entry to point to community infra servers, and then I promise name of the foundation will be our least problem ;-)


/j


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