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rainisto 2013-04-30 04:45

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Hopefully you never tried to flash 280 version, since if you did then you can never go back to 006, that would explain why mcu sw flashing fails.

neel.basu 2013-04-30 06:08

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
But that's not the case. If That was the scenario I couldn't even flush the rootfs I believe. and
Code:

flashar -i
was supposed to show 280 instead of
Code:

Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_006
Then what can be the problem with mcu sw ? I am not getting any hints :(

rainisto 2013-04-30 07:46

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Well there are 2 possibilities, if modem harware is broken, then mcusw flashing fails, or the other possibility, if you have tried to flash any other (ie wrong number) firmware even once, then then its overwritten mcusw with too new mcusw timestamp, and all the subsequental flashes to 006 will fail (because downgrade of mcusw is never allowed).

neel.basu 2013-04-30 09:40

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
How will I confirm which one of these two possibilities have occurred in my case ? as I can boot in Can I send any commands to cellular modem through terminal to check what version its using (though I don't remember I've ever done that. but still good to have a check) ? or if its broken.

and as flasher -i is reporting 006 doesn't it mean that cmt is also using 006 only ?

minimos 2013-04-30 16:14

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
What about trying to flash with variant 280 (if it's a suitable variant for you) ?

neel.basu 2013-04-30 18:30

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
checked my .bash_history , there is no reference of 280. I've checked all flasher commands that I've ever invoked. and none of them have 280. also I saw I never downloaded 280.

I have only 3 files in My downloads folder

PHP Code:

DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_006-OEM1-958_ARM.bin
DFL61_HARMATTAN_22.2011.44
-2_PR_LEGACY_006-OEM1-958_ARM.bin
E074DEA5_DFL61_HARMATTAN_30.2012.07
-1_PR_LEGACY_006-OEM1-958_ARM.bin
528DA068_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13
-7.MEA_EMMC_MEA.bin 


neel.basu 2013-05-06 04:00

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
So Geeks. No Solution ?

suyog 2013-05-12 06:50

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
I have exactly same issue and you can refer to my posts in this thread.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...28#post1305428

I have made some progress by trying few things which you can see in latest posts in that thread.
I am still trying to find complete solution.
Please check if those posts help you in any way.

neel.basu 2013-05-13 17:57

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
But I don't see any hint to track. Now I've started to think, its a hardware issue. and The problem is there is no way to make sure. where the problem is. as bootloader can pick up my imei correctly. and I can see it in /proc/cmdline.

Hurrian 2013-05-14 00:44

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
I think that at some point, firmware versions have been mismatched on-device.

Using the PR_LEGACY 006 firmware, add "--flash-only=rootfs" to the end of that command line, and on the second run to flash the eMMC, remember to have "--flash-only=emmc".

Don't reboot yet.

Now download the PR1.3 PR_LEGACY 280 rootfs, and "--flash-only=cmt-mcusw".

You should now have a device with PR1.3 006 on the APU, and PR1.3 280 on the MCU (and the MCU's swcert should match with the MCU firmware)

(IIRC mismatching APU and MCU firmware is allowed. In case you get a MALF, flash the PR1.3 Open Mode kernel and follow these instructions)

suyog 2013-05-14 20:45

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neel.basu (Post 1343344)
But I don't see any hint to track. Now I've started to think, its a hardware issue. and The problem is there is no way to make sure. where the problem is. as bootloader can pick up my imei correctly. and I can see it in /proc/cmdline.

As I said I also got exactly same issue but after flashing chinese cmt only my phone shows IMEI and works sometimes (50% of times)
So I don't think issues is with hardware.

suyog 2013-05-14 21:21

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1343403)
I think that at some point, firmware versions have been mismatched on-device.

Using the PR_LEGACY 006 firmware, add "--flash-only=rootfs" to the end of that command line, and on the second run to flash the eMMC, remember to have "--flash-only=emmc".

Don't reboot yet.

Now download the PR1.3 PR_LEGACY 280 rootfs, and "--flash-only=cmt-mcusw".

You should now have a device with PR1.3 006 on the APU, and PR1.3 280 on the MCU (and the MCU's swcert should match with the MCU firmware)

(IIRC mismatching APU and MCU firmware is allowed. In case you get a MALF, flash the PR1.3 Open Mode kernel and follow these instructions)

Many Thanks for reply.
Can you please explain "Now download the PR1.3 PR_LEGACY 280 rootfs"

I could not understand what rootfs is? Or is it just typo?
Do you mean to download this file?
Dfl61 Harmattan 40.2012.21-3.280.04.1 Pr Legacy 280 Arm Rm-696 Prd Signed.bin

Is file is from same product code which is mentioned at back of SIM tray?

I got following error

Quote:

c:\Program Files\Nokia\Flasher>flasher -f -F main_ce40.bin --flash-only=cmt-mcusw
flasher 3.12.1 (Oct 6 2011) Harmattan
ERROR: Valid --flash-only options: nolo,kernel,moslo,initfs,rootfs,cmt,mmc,tar
ERROR: Error processing option
So I used cmt option as specified in fflashing post, but I got following error.
Quote:

c:\Program Files\Nokia\Flasher>flasher -f -F main_ce40.bin --flash-only=cmt
flasher 3.12.1 (Oct 6 2011) Harmattan
WARNING: This tool is intended for professional use only. Using it may result
in permanently damaging your device or losing the warranty.

Ping attempt 1 (250 ms)
Server application: 1.7.2
Found product RM-696 rev. 1601
Server implements softupd protocol version 1.8
Image SW version DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_001
Image cert-sw skipped
Image xloader skipped
Image secondary skipped
Image kernel skipped
Image moslo skipped
Image rootfs skipped
Image mmc skipped
Image tar skipped
Image config skipped

Battery level 66 %, continuing.

image [state progress transfer flash speed]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
[x] cmt-2nd [finished 100 % 95 / 95 kB NA ]
[x] cmt-algo [finished 100 % 789 / 789 kB NA ]
[_] cmt-mcusw [finishing 0 % 6050 / 6050 kB 3315 kB/s]
ERROR: SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 1: Unknown error

image [state progress transfer flash speed]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
[x] cmt-2nd [finished 100 % 95 / 95 kB NA ]
[x] cmt-algo [finished 100 % 789 / 789 kB NA ]
[f] cmt-mcusw [finishing 0 % 6050 / 6050 kB 3315 kB/s]
Fetching error list:
========================================
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
Update content failed to verify against cert: SW certificate not updated
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
Update content failed to verify against cert: SW certificate not updated
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
MTC_NOS_READY not received
MTC_NOS_READY not received
MTC_NOS_READY not received
CMT RFS failed
[Pipe 2] Finishing in error state with status 1
========================================

ERROR: Failed to flash images
Then I tried chinese cmt and it was finishing at 75% for cmt-mcusw before giving following error.

Quote:

c:\Program Files\Nokia\Flasher>flasher -f -F main_ch.bin --flash-only=cmt
flasher 3.12.1 (Oct 6 2011) Harmattan
WARNING: This tool is intended for professional use only. Using it may result
in permanently damaging your device or losing the warranty.

Ping attempt 1 (250 ms)
Server application: 1.7.2
Found product RM-696 rev. 1601
Server implements softupd protocol version 1.8
Image SW version DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_003
Image cert-sw skipped
Image xloader skipped
Image secondary skipped
Image kernel skipped
Image moslo skipped
Image rootfs skipped
Image mmc skipped
Image tar skipped
Image config skipped

Battery level 69 %, continuing.

image [state progress transfer flash speed]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
[x] cmt-2nd [finished 100 % 95 / 95 kB NA ]
[x] cmt-algo [finished 100 % 789 / 789 kB NA ]
[_] cmt-mcusw [finishing 75 % 6050 / 6050 kB 3465 kB/s]
ERROR: SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 1: Unknown error

image [state progress transfer flash speed]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
[x] cmt-2nd [finished 100 % 95 / 95 kB NA ]
[x] cmt-algo [finished 100 % 789 / 789 kB NA ]
[f] cmt-mcusw [finishing 0 % 6050 / 6050 kB 3465 kB/s]
Fetching error list:
========================================
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
MTC_POWER_OFF not received
CMT RFS failed
[Pipe 2] Finishing in error state with status 1
========================================

ERROR: Failed to flash images

Hurrian 2013-05-15 12:28

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
That's quite the odd problem.

Your device has PR 003 firmware and has Chinese CMT firmware.

And flasher -i shows all the information properly, yet Harmattan can't seem to talk to the BB5?

At this point I'd be inclined to install the Chinese firmware to match, but the Chinese firmware sucks. (Don't do it yet!)

Perhaps other forum members can get your 003 firmware device talking to your CMT.

suyog 2013-05-15 15:30

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1343790)
That's quite the odd problem.

Your device has PR 003 firmware and has Chinese CMT firmware.

And flasher -i shows all the information properly, yet Harmattan can't seem to talk to the BB5?

At this point I'd be inclined to install the Chinese firmware to match, but the Chinese firmware sucks. (Don't do it yet!)

Perhaps other forum members can get your 003 firmware device talking to your CMT.

Many Thanks for reply.
After this recent cmt flash , error showed as as shown in log but earlier cmt only flash with chinese fw used to give success. i am not sure if this means anything.
Also I noted very strange thing. When I don't put SIM in tray or put phone in flight mode , it shows IMEI in About->settings
But as soon as i put SIM card it disappears.

Earlier when chinese fw smt flash used to be successful, it used to work 50% of times and then suddenly lose network.

juiceme 2013-05-15 15:46

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Have you tried it with another simcard, does the behaviour change?

suyog 2013-05-15 19:32

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1343842)
Have you tried it with another simcard, does the behaviour change?

Yes, I tried with 3 different SIM cards from 3 operators and still same issue.

neel.basu 2013-05-17 18:33

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1343403)
I think that at some point, firmware versions have been mismatched on-device.

Using the PR_LEGACY 006 firmware, add "--flash-only=rootfs" to the end of that command line, and on the second run to flash the eMMC, remember to have "--flash-only=emmc".

Don't reboot yet.

Now download the PR1.3 PR_LEGACY 280 rootfs, and "--flash-only=cmt-mcusw".

You should now have a device with PR1.3 006 on the APU, and PR1.3 280 on the MCU (and the MCU's swcert should match with the MCU firmware)

(IIRC mismatching APU and MCU firmware is allowed. In case you get a MALF, flash the PR1.3 Open Mode kernel and follow these instructions)

What I am fearing is.flasher -i is reporting I've 006. Now If I flush CMT with 280 and that doesn't work, wouldn't it block downgrading CMT in future ?

So is there any way to know which version cmt is running ? (If cmt and rootfs run two different versions)

suyog 2013-05-20 16:58

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Yes, I would also like to know if there is any way to find these base software details currently being used on phone.

Anyone?

neel.basu 2013-05-20 17:07

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
well what version its using you can find with flasher. But as Some people mentioned above CMT may have a different version. The question is How to know what version CMT is using.Is there a way to raw read cmt or mcusw ?

suyog 2013-05-22 19:13

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neel.basu (Post 1345303)
well what version its using you can find with flasher. But as Some people mentioned above CMT may have a different version. The question is How to know what version CMT is using.Is there a way to raw read cmt or mcusw ?

I am also talking about same , I meant base software = cmt etc.

neel.basu 2013-05-25 10:06

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
I've tried to flash cmt using 280 version BUt that also failed.
ERROR: SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 1: Unknown error

PHP Code:

03:33:38 ~/Desktop/N9-059J217sudo flasher -F 62A0A79D_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.280.04.1_PR_LEGACY_280_ARM_RM-696_PRD_signed.bin ---flash-only=cmt
flasher 3.12.1 
(Oct  5 2011Harmattan
WARNING
This tool is intended for professional use onlyUsing it may result
in permanently damaging your device 
or losing the warranty.

Suitable USB interface (bootloader/phonetnot foundwaiting...
USB device found at bus 002device address 013.
Device identifier
351669052218994 (SNN/A)
Found device RM-696hardware revision 1603
NOLO version 2.3.6
Version of 
'sw-release'DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_006
Sending ape
-algo image (7103 kB)...
100% (7103 of 7103 kBavg17034 kB/s)
Suitable USB interface (phonetnot foundwaiting...
USB device found at bus 002device address 014.
Device identifier
351669052218994 (SNN/A)
Raw data transfer EP found at EP2.
Ping attempt 1 (250 ms)
Server application1.7.2
Found product RM
-696 rev1603
Server 
implements softupd protocol version 1.8
Image SW version DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21
-3.280.04.1_PR_280
Image cert
-sw skipped
Image xloader skipped
Image secondary skipped
Image kernel skipped
Image moslo skipped
Image rootfs skipped
Image mmc skipped
Image tar skipped
Image config skipped

Battery level 87 
%, continuing.

    
image        [state    progress         transfer     flash speed]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
[
xcmt-2nd      [finished   100 %      95 /      95 kB      NA     ]
[
_cmt-algo     [init       100 %     789 /     789 kB      NA     ]
[ ] 
cmt-mcusw    [pending      0 %       /       0 kB      NA     ]
ERRORSU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 1Unknown error

    image        
[state    progress         transfer     flash speed]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
[
xcmt-2nd      [finished   100 %      95 /      95 kB      NA     ]
[
fcmt-algo     [init         0 %     789 /     789 kB      NA     ]
[-] 
cmt-mcusw    [pending      0 %       /       0 kB      NA     ]
Fetching error list:
========================================
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
bb5_rdc_cert_read failed
Timeout 
while waiting for the HWBREAK
Could not reboot into cold bootmode
[Pipe   1Finishing in error state with status 1
========================================

ERRORFailed to flash images 


neel.basu 2013-05-27 06:29

Su_get_update_status_req
 
Code:

SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ
What does this mean ? I've searched But never found any defines for this.

rainisto 2013-05-27 17:17

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Afaik flasher is asking status of how the update went, and unknown error happens if modem hardware is broken, if you try to downgrade firmware or to change it to different region.

neel.basu 2013-05-27 17:20

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
How to make sure, which one of these three possibilities has happened in my case ?

rainisto 2013-05-27 17:23

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
there is no way to know, you can roll the dice and decide yourself. Unknown error is unknown. My bet is that hardware is broken.

neel.basu 2013-05-27 17:25

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Thanks fro the rare clear answer. I've heard that its not possible to desolder/repair the cmt only without changing the complete board. Is that True ? or Nokia Care Lied to me ?

neel.basu 2013-05-31 16:43

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
well one question. if hardware is broken should I get imei in /proc/cmdline ?

suyog 2013-05-31 16:57

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neel.basu (Post 1348366)
well one question. if hardware is broken should I get imei in /proc/cmdline ?

or if i can see IMEI when in flight mode? How do we know for sure it is hardware issue?

neel.basu 2013-05-31 17:04

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
I believe when in flight mode it doesn't communicate with modem hardware at all

suyog 2013-06-01 09:17

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neel.basu (Post 1348375)
I believe when in flight mode it doesn't communicate with modem hardware at all

Yes, but how it loses IMEI when not in flight mode?
Something is triggering to check that disable. I hope we could know how and why it is happening.

kumary 2013-06-03 20:58

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Yesterday my phone was working fine however while it was connected to my workstation in office just for charging. (I charge it in office from day one june-2012) However when I unplugged it i started getting the same error as the Suyog & neel.basu is getting.

Is anybody able to find out a way to do so? :(

neel.basu 2013-06-04 03:13

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
1 June 2012. what a date.
solutions exist. but all don't work always.

kumary 2013-06-04 03:33

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
my PR number is 299 (Australian variant), as suyog suggested I tried to flash cmt only from chinese variant (16GB Black) but no use.

Just some added information and assumption on the basis of my understanding.

I assume that the issue is due to the mobile is unable to retreive the IMEI number.

Basis: Any Nokia Application is not working correctly which I guess need IMEI number to register. For e.g. Unable to set Nokia account under Accounts & Nokia Store. So I rule out the chances of HW issues related to SIM.

Also, as I m able to see the IMEI number using "cat /proc/cmdline" so I suppose no hardware fault there.

So the whole issue is due to IMEI number not retreived. May be I m wrong but I will be more than happy if someone can enlighten me with the whole issue. Please note that I have read all pages of this thread and Reflashing guide so don't think I am writing without searching and reading.

Also, all this happen when my phone was working and getting charged through my office desktop and suddenly the world standstill. :( :(

Request to all geeks.. please have a look into it... since yesterday I came to know that many people are facing this issue and the number is increasing day by day.

neel.basu 2013-06-04 03:56

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Well I don't know, rather I am doubtful whether IMEI and comes from CMT hardware or not. If IMEI comes from a different hardware or if bootloader doesn't need to have any communication with CMT to pass the imei. then there still may be a hardware issue. I asked the same in one post.
Quote:

well one question. if hardware is broken should I get imei in /proc/cmdline ?

suyog 2013-06-04 14:12

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kumary (Post 1349367)
my PR number is 299 (Australian variant), as suyog suggested I tried to flash cmt only from chinese variant (16GB Black) but no use.

Just some added information and assumption on the basis of my understanding.

I assume that the issue is due to the mobile is unable to retreive the IMEI number.

Basis: Any Nokia Application is not working correctly which I guess need IMEI number to register. For e.g. Unable to set Nokia account under Accounts & Nokia Store. So I rule out the chances of HW issues related to SIM.

Also, as I m able to see the IMEI number using "cat /proc/cmdline" so I suppose no hardware fault there.

So the whole issue is due to IMEI number not retreived. May be I m wrong but I will be more than happy if someone can enlighten me with the whole issue. Please note that I have read all pages of this thread and Reflashing guide so don't think I am writing without searching and reading.

Also, all this happen when my phone was working and getting charged through my office desktop and suddenly the world standstill. :( :(

Request to all geeks.. please have a look into it... since yesterday I came to know that many people are facing this issue and the number is increasing day by day.

@kumary . welcome to unique club :)
Please flash chinese variant cmt or whole as last option.
I am sure you have tried flashing aussie version with zerorize option.
Try to flash again , may be with european fw.

Sometimes I wonder if Nokia(Elop???) put some trojan to break functionality :)

kumary 2013-06-04 16:35

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suyog (Post 1349485)
@kumary . welcome to unique club :)
Please flash chinese variant cmt or whole as last option.
I am sure you have tried flashing aussie version with zerorize option.
Try to flash again , may be with european fw.

Sometimes I wonder if Nokia(Elop???) put some trojan to break functionality :)

I flashed the chinese CMT but as usual its not working.

I m really pissed off.. I came to know that changing the motherboard might help all of us. But its not available so easily. :( and its costly too.

But now I am free test anything to everything on my N9.

Hey I got most expensive Ipod ;)

Also, few more details on the issue... Phone getting hot very quickly, like while charging and rebooting as well. Also the phone getting very hot on upper right corner where the Sim card slot is.

I guess its hardware issue now. :(

thedead1440 2013-06-04 16:38

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
kumary,

Why did you flash Chinese CMT? Can you explain what problem you exactly had as well as your previous firmware version numbers? Did you flash Chinese CMT before?

kumary 2013-06-04 17:17

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1349546)
kumary,

Why did you flash Chinese CMT? Can you explain what problem you exactly had as well as your previous firmware version numbers? Did you flash Chinese CMT before?

I always flashed only one firmware

E10C8FCB_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.299.1_PR_LEGACY_299_ARM_RM-696_PRD_signed

This is selected basis the model number which is 059L698 from Navifirm. I downloaded it earlier.

As you read in my earlier posts, the phone was working alright and I put it on charging as usual after a call. Later when I removed it from charging I was not able to dial any number and in settings there is no option available under network settings.

While I reboot the phone it shows error that the sim is not working. Also, I tried the above mentioned firmware thrice (its the original firmware with which I get the phone.)

I tried flashing the Chinese CMT without success. I tried it based on the Suyog research and his posts in the N9's comprehensive flashing guide post.

From the above I can confirm my phone uses firmware number 299 (Australian) and I understand I can't flash to lower firmware like 003 for china.

But I am trying all the possibilities. If you have any idea then pls help. Also I have not included other details which I have mentioned in my other posts in this thread.

I am open to all suggestion to make it work. :(

thedead1440 2013-06-04 17:24

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
So you always had Australian firmware and yet flashed Chinese CMT? Why on earth would you do that??

Despite your issues it makes no sense for you to flash Chinese CMT! suyog's "research" is something for his own device...

I'm afraid by flashing chinese cmt you have got yourself into a bigger mess...

kumary 2013-06-04 17:31

Re: nokia n9 IMEI random erase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1349565)
So you always had Australian firmware and yet flashed Chinese CMT? Why on earth would you do that??

Despite your issues it makes no sense for you to flash Chinese CMT! suyog's "research" is something for his own device...

I'm afraid by flashing chinese cmt you have got yourself into a bigger mess...

I agree... but its not working either way :(

and chinese CMT failed and unable to flash... so I haven't successfully flashed it. Do I have any hope for the device?


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