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Donated 25$ via PayPal.

Though i like the sentence 'Donated, bumping the thread to the top' - which gives me the feeling of being part of an outstanding community - i would like to see something on TMO which is more visible. Maybe, its time to replace the 'Council Sept 2012 Election' with something that makes more sense?

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This is already in the works.

+bump!

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Ok when the first thoughts about community-operated infrastructure came up i said i would donate small amount per month, so i put where my mouth is etc. at least once today.
(and if now every second friggin' kid that came here just for Whatscrap would donate $2, maybe someone@HF could play Dagobert Duck... ;) )

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Thanks for your donation (of course same to everybody else), just a few comments:
The goal is not really met, since we expect this fundraiser will have to last for next maybe 6 months and we face some extraordinary one time expenses due during next maybe 3 months for setup of servers, buying licences, paying some last month of hosting the old servers, etc.

The less expensive we want to go later, the more money and work we need to invest into setting up well thought and consolidated infra right now. If we would want to just port what's there now without any consolidation, the mere hosting and administration will be several thousand dollars each month.

And also, since it sometimes sounds a bit different in some of the comments in here: this is about the complete maemo.org infra, not just about this forum. Actually if it was only this forum, our (board, council) lifes were much easier right now, since the whole situation around tmo is pretty easy compared to the rest, not least thanks to Reggie being really helpful - many thanks for this, Reggie!

cheers and keep up the great support
jOERG

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More US$30 donated. Keep the good work, Maemo/MeeGo guys !

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You're probably not far off for 5 servers but for just the forum, that class of server is way over spec. Df.EU servers are also about half again as expensive as Hetzner.

I'd also hope someone is looking at consolidating using Xenserver or VmWare or some other virtual infrastructure rather than 'investing' in physical dedicated servers with fixed specs.

(Disclaimer: I run a hosting company though we focus on commerce not the kind of infrastructure required to support a Linux repo & community)

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Current status:

Donated: 2636,37 USD
PayPal fees: -122,18 USD
Total: 2514,19 USD

This week we'll send out a unified letter to some companies (Intel, RIM, LF, Jolla) asking for sponsoring support.

Best regards,
Cosimo

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@zehjotkah,

Any news about a (preferably European) bank account? Otherwise I might just transfer my donation to your account (I think I still have it..).

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I'm happy to donate, still haven't yet (note to self: Do it!).

Just a thought... If we have a counter next to the donate banner, then maybe we could have a counter widget/app for our phones too? An official counter app could also be a payed application (for a minimal fee) where the profits can go straight back in to HF funds.

Like I say, it's just a thought :)

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I support the idea of sponsorship but could we please have some clarification on what it will involve and what it will be limited to? Can you confirm that a sponsor will not be able influence the direction of maemo.org?

Could we have greater clarification on the future focus of maemo.org? Mer and its derivatives would seem to be the natural successors to Maemo/MeeGo however I am little surprised that there aren't any Mer sub-forums on TMO yet. Seeing RIM on the list of potential sponsors concerns me given the closed nature of BB10/QNX. To consider RIM because of the Qt association seems like a bit of a stretch IMHO. Have you considered companies such as HP/Gram, BasysKom, Neofonie or perhaps Canonical?

I hope my questions aren't too off topic. I think they are relevant concerns for some people that would like to make a donation but I can "spawn" a new thread if necessary. :)

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Good idea, i think the Jolla guys should be our most likely allies.

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It will be an US-based account as this is much easier for a US-based foundation. But please don't donate to my private bank account as long as I can't transfer the money to the official one; that is: as long as there is no official account, yet.

Sure. :)

The current plan is to place the sponsor logos on hf.org on a dedicated "sponsor page". They won't have any special rights or power over maemo.org.
Sponsors should support us, because they should want to keep the community alive.
In RIMs case it is exactly because we offer a home for many, many Qt devs

http://hildonfoundation.org/bylaws/ might be an interesting read for you regarding the future of maemo.org.

A counter is planned for when the donations page is fully integrated at hf.org. It would replace the current banner and show our goal and the current status. On hf.org you'll see every single donation made.
Counter app: sure, would be possible, but first let's work on getting maemo.org survive the next months.

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I also made a small donation.

I noticed that the Donor wall is empty. Isn't that implemented yet or doesn't anybody want to be on the wall?

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Donation done for the two months to follow.

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While this sticky forum post is fine, isn't it a very good idea to have a link to the Hildon foundation site and donation page on the home page of maemo.org and talk.maemo.org?

Isn't it just as important as the council elections, CSSU and Cordia site?

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30 more USD from me.
Keep up with the good work, guys!

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Got money gift for x-mas? No idea what to buy?
Donate! It feels good. :-)

(aka "bump")

/j

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Hi everyone,

you can check out every single transaction (including received donations) the foundation has made on this page: http://hildonfoundation.org/supporters/

We're currently in the process of transfering the money from my personal PayPal account to the HF bank account and setting up HFs PayPal account.

Best regards,
Cosimo

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50 USD from me, keep up the good work!

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donated.
keep up the good work!

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I appreciate we're coming through a busy period (oh Happy New Year maemo.org!), but any progress with this, Sept 2012 seems like a long time ago?

The logo was already done long time ago and I sent it to Reggie already. Somehow I thought he had placed it there already as well...
Has someone else rights to replace the community council logo with the donation one? So I don't have to bug him as he is currently doing a lot for a smooth transition.
I'll attach it to my next post, as soon as I have access to a PC.


edit: just attached the banner.
If anyone knows who could change it on the homepage: go ahead. ;)

just contributed $18 do that i shouldn't get bounced for being an irritating n00b that can barely manage a google search.

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http://bit.ly/X10GzU

Nah, it's self-reference :D

very cute. now do one that says "how do i set machine to tumble dry on low heat?" or better yet come on over and just iron my shirts for me :p
no but seriously i am very impressed and grateful for how much i have gotten from this community. Hella-props y'all.

I like to donate by buying some app on ovi store that are onwed by HF. This should be spreading and simple way.

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I donated $100, and wish you all good luck. Keep up the critiques to bring out the best open phone for the masses.

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30 Dollars from me, it's not much, but I wanna say thank you maemo.org for everything!

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I've updated the supporters page on hf.org:
http://hildonfoundation.org/supporters/

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According to that table it seems to be more efficient to donate seldom but bigger amounts rather than donate small amounts more often.

Any progress on transfer methods that don't include fancy next generation new media techniques, i.e. plain old-fashioned bank transfer?

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Totally true.
That's because PayPal takes a fixed fee per donation plus a percentage fee.
So the total percentage of a fee is getting smaller as the donations gets bigger.

The US-based account is setted up. We're currently discussing if we should open up an EU-based account as well, and if yes, how to do that (there are legal questions involved).

Besides that we're investigating the best way to set up an Ovi account so we could publish an app which can be bought by donators basically as donation.
The question there is, from which country Nokia will transfer the money, as we have high fees with international transfers to our US-based account.

Is there an US-based developer who has published at least one paid app to the Ovi store and could comment on that?

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Did you investigate into acquiring a non-profit account for flattr http://flattr.com/support/charityaccount ? Is that possible, too much of a hassle, or even more fragmenting the issue?

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I'll be cheking out flattr, there are some objections about it so I'll try to be as thorough as possible. We'll also consider pledgie.

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The main issue with that is Nokia taking an insane fraction of each payment/purchase. I heard sth like 30%, so it's really just for those who got no other means. Probably even sending traveler's checks in an envelope was a smarter method. BTW recurring donations seem pretty incompatible with purchasing an app to donate.
On a related topic: it would help a lot when you could add a remark to your donation about the time span this donation is meant to get splitted until your next donation will arrive. HiFo could estimate way better how much of the funds they got they may spend per month.

cheers and thank you to all donators
/j

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do you also accept bitcoins ?

Can we discuss with ovi about %? In this case, there should be less fee as they know our work.

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Does the HF or CC know how much it will cost per month to run the infrastructure? I heard "thousands of dollars per month", but is there not an exact number that is known now?

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The cost varies greatly depending on the final infrastructure. For now we are on interim infra. If we stay like this the cost would be a couple of thousand dollars, but with a bit of hard work we can drop that to less than a thousand.

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Ok, I've donated $20. But also maybe it's a good idea that you publish some figures. It's hard to believe that this infrastructure should cost several thousand $$$ per month. At the moment we have only a vBulletin system (all other still down). Other sites have these for free.

Are you using shared hosted ressources? Are you using bare metal servers and are you paying per rack space?

Before I donate more I want to have some more details what happens with the dollars.

Thanks!

Martin

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Hello,

im just realize maemo is migrating away from nokia, which is a very nice surprise, but also concerning, mantaining an infrastructure like thise requires a lot of work.

Im a sysadmin, been using debian-based OS's last 9 years, i can help for whatever you need.

What im viewing is you are trying to concentrate everything in a big badass server, for the repository i dont think is the best idea, you would like to get as much servers as posible with multiples Providers (cheap ones) with a lot of BW, (for example server4you) gives unlimited traffic, and they are cheap, a server from them for only APT repository would be great. then just do a DNS round robin over repository.maemo.org


Also, have you tried to get donors for mirrors? sourceforge and iWeb.ca are very well know for their support to FOSS community, they have debian mirrrors servers and a lot of other stuff.

Hope we can mantain maemo for a long time.

Thanks for all your efforts.

Regards