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pichlo 2012-12-21 08:25

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1306483)
well, you can't say, prices in Europe are in middle-range or something like that... have you ever travelled from e.g. Slovakia to Iceland or Switzerland?

I've never been to Iceland or Switzerland but I often travel from the UK to Slovakia and have to say that the times when it made sense to go there shopping are long gone. Now Slovakia is more expensive even in absolute terms, and when factoring in average wages in the two countries, it comes out as at least twice as expensive as the UK.

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Companies make prices, depending on how much they can get from people, low prices in US means US people are pretty broke (like the whole country), sadly nothing else...
Amen!

don_falcone 2012-12-21 10:36

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
On a related note:

http://slashdot.org/story/12/10/25/0...-better-prices

vi_ 2012-12-21 11:57

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
low prices?

Consider this, we as a species are currently using 150% of the worlds resources. That is, we need 1.5 earths to maintain what we have. We are literally borrowing from our sons that which is not ours to take. This coupled with the west's economic subjugation of the rest of the world means we can have whatever we want.

It will not last forever.

jotoco 2012-12-21 13:34

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1306479)
I can give you a non-exhaustive list of why things are so expensive in the UK:

Import duties calculated as a percentage of cost of goods + freight.
High transportation costs as a result of exorbitant duties levied on diesel.
Exorbitant business rates charged on commercial premises by local authorities.
Exorbitant Employer's National Insurance calculated on the basis of each of your employee's salary.
Exorbitant Class 1A National Insurance on any 'perks' you provide for your employees.
Exorbitant rate of VAT charged on sales value.
Exorbitant Corporation Tax payable on company profits.

At the end of the day it all boils down to the huge state. Somebody has to pay for the thousands upon thousands of public sector boondogglers with their flexi-time and fancy pension schemes.

Research done in the UK showed public sector workers were paid 30% more than somebody doing a similar job in the private sector, they worked 9 years less and then headed off into retirement with a pension a private sector worker could only dream of.

On top of the plethora of exorbitant taxes required to maintain the lavish lifestyles of the bloated public sector the European private sector has other handicaps imposed that reduce efficiency such as:

Absurd employment law - employing someone seems almost akin to adopting them, it's hard to get rid of them even if they turn out to be a worthless, lazy bludger.

EU beaurocracy - EC Sales Lists, Intrastat, Triangulation, etc... (it's actually easier for me to deal with the Far East or the USA than it is other EU member states).

If you multiply this by 10 fold, you will find Brazil.

EDIT:

Except we don't really have any service back. Health, Education... nothing really works well around here.

switch-hitter 2012-12-21 15:59

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by switch-hitter
CBI-esque propaganda

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1306491)
No politics on TMO please.


You've quoted me as saying something I didn't say :confused:

thedead1440 2012-12-21 16:08

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jotoco (Post 1306609)
If you multiply this by 10 fold, you will find Brazil.

EDIT:

Except we don't really have any service back. Health, Education... nothing really works well around here.

I love this game :D You multiply that 10 fold by another 10 fold and you get India :p


P.S. and whatever you don't have really working its 10 fold worse in India ;)

gerbick 2012-12-21 16:10

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1306512)
Not necessarily, a company has the freedom to put in any price they like.. As long as there are different solutions for the consumer to choose from, otherwise it would be a monopoly...

I was being fully sarcastic.

Well, Americans will sue for damn near anything.

don_falcone 2012-12-21 17:28

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1306636)
Well, Americans will sue for damn near anything.

Cool! Could you sue Lubeman f.e for disturbing our board aesthetics, per favore?

Edit: scrap that, "continued promotion of necroware" applies much better.... :D

Dave999 2012-12-21 17:31

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
No sue for you!

justadude 2012-12-21 18:23

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Your post makes sense, why delete it? Only paragraphing is required :D[/QUOTE]

Paragraphing? Haha fine I'll make sure to indent properly next time, keep subjects and predicates in order as well as run the good old spell check :D

erendorn 2012-12-21 21:10

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
It's been said in the thread already, but the reason really is included vat + included 1 or 2 year warranty.

last time I checked on a mac book, once it was factored in, there was less than a 5% dofference between US and EU.

automagic68 2012-12-22 11:59

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Get ready for lower prices! Google is making a 'Java' phone with Motorola and since they own Motorola they'll definitely subsidize the price knowing it will pay off with sales in the Google Playstore or whatever it's called. :eek:

Dave999 2013-05-29 12:47

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Anyone knows any great tech stores in NYC? Looking for Computers, cams, tablets and phones. I have few days off and some money to spend. Where is the best place to spend it NYC area?

qwazix 2013-05-29 13:50

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
B&h .

klinglerware 2013-05-29 15:43

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
"You go to B&H"

J&R is good too...

Dave999 2013-05-29 17:12

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Whats up with this name thing B&H, J&R and M&M's...

They don't have phones? Is it even possible to find unlocked phone without operator?

klinglerware 2013-05-29 17:29

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
J&R sells phones unlocked/unsubsidized. There are probably other retailers in the city that specialize in mobile phones and have better selection (though I can't think of any offhand). But a large retailer like J&R or B&H have good breadth of general electronics offerings.

Do not go to Worst Buy...

juiceme 2013-05-29 18:30

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Why are these stores in US named like "X&Y" ?
How do you tell them apart? :D

maverick788us 2013-05-30 08:15

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1305725)
Competition is a big factor too. Competition breeds pressure on gov to reduce taxes and tariffs. And businesses rule gov in US, not the other way around. Plus, to sell to large number of,people and move volume, you need it to be relatively cheap.

Most of the computer stuff is manufactured in US thats why it is inexpensive. When it goes out for sale in foreign countries, all those duties, custom is added to the price.

Dave999 2013-05-30 09:02

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1347967)
Most of the computer stuff is manufactured in US thats why it is inexpensive. When it goes out for sale in foreign countries, all those duties, custom is added to the price.

I doubt most phones are assembled in US.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/News...urce=pulsenews

pichlo 2013-05-30 09:39

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Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1347967)
Most of the computer stuff is manufactured in US

China.

There. Fixed.

woody14619 2013-05-30 17:52

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1347811)
Why are these stores in US named like "X&Y" ?
How do you tell them apart? :D

Very few are named like that. Most of those mentioned earlier I've not ever heard of, and I live in NY. (Though not NYC.)

The real reason most of the stuff is cheep is the US is a "buyer beware" country. If you buy something and it breaks a day later, the seller, in most cases, has 0 liability or obligation. Some may help you out, to keep a good reputation. But unless you have a written warranty, you have no warranty, at all. If you do get a warranty with something, it often comes with a separate wagon to hull the legal document home, despite being printed in 5 point font. Expect lots of exceptions, limits, and very little actual "coverage".

Cheep tech sounds great, until you have that tech die on you a month in, and find out your "warranty" doesn't cover it or expired 2 days ago. Then that tech just cost you 2x when/if you get another one. Not quite the deal it's being made to be...

Dave999 2013-07-12 17:33

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 1348106)
Very few are named like that. Most of those mentioned earlier I've not ever heard of, and I live in NY. (Though not NYC.)

The real reason most of the stuff is cheep is the US is a "buyer beware" country. If you buy something and it breaks a day later, the seller, in most cases, has 0 liability or obligation. Some may help you out, to keep a good reputation. But unless you have a written warranty, you have no warranty, at all. If you do get a warranty with something, it often comes with a separate wagon to hull the legal document home, despite being printed in 5 point font. Expect lots of exceptions, limits, and very little actual "coverage".

Cheep tech sounds great, until you have that tech die on you a month in, and find out your "warranty" doesn't cover it or expired 2 days ago. Then that tech just cost you 2x when/if you get another one. Not quite the deal it's being made to be...

So where do you buy your tech? web stores?

TheoX 2013-07-13 15:23

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
I would like to live in the US just for the fact that tech (and even cars) are very affordable...

I wanted to buy a LED tv, but here they are expensive, I found a good prince on E-Bay from USA, brand new, unopened, but when I calculated the final prince (product + delivery) it was the same price as in the stores here...

Same with other various electronics, I even saw people GIVING away some stuff, with you only paying the delivery (but only inside the US)...

Second-hand cars also are a few hundred dollars...

Maybe it's a good way of like living like that, knowing that when your tv, phone, car or whatever broke, you can also afford a new one, and still live good...

Dave999 2013-09-16 18:36

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Anyone knows when the new note 10.1 will be found in the US retail stores? Price?

gerbick 2013-09-16 21:58

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1374626)
Anyone knows when the new note 10.1 will be found in the US retail stores? Price?

Wi-fi only, white 16gb internal storage is about $379 USD right now, lesser if on sale or combined with coupons.

Dave999 2013-09-18 18:46

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1374682)
Wi-fi only, white 16gb internal storage is about $379 USD right now, lesser if on sale or combined with coupons.

Thank you. Unfortunately I wasn't clear. I meant the 2014 version. Wifi
only. Would it be possible to get it before the first of October?


What Coupons?

gerbick 2013-09-18 23:11

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1375122)
Thank you. Unfortunately I wasn't clear. I meant the 2014 version. Wifi
only. Would it be possible to get it before the first of October?

It's not released yet. So no. Not answer on the price nor availability.

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What Coupons?
A lot of stores have in-store coupons for the brick and mortar places, otherwise (Staples has them constantly), online places like Buy.com or Frys has online coupons as well.

Dave999 2013-09-20 16:31

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
How do you get these coupons for B&M? In the store?

gerbick 2013-09-20 17:47

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1375681)
How do you get these coupons for B&M? In the store?

Online or in the store. For instance, I'm looking at a Staples e-mail (newsletter) that has a $30 coupon for any tablet. So I take that coupon ID number and show them the screen on my phone with the e-mail or I tell them about the coupon since I'm a newsletter subscriber and they apply it.

Dave999 2013-09-23 20:56

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
ok. I dont have any coupons but I will pick up some tablet. Too bad note 10.1 or new ipad mini isn't available yet. And Today surface 2 surfuced.

gerbick 2013-09-23 21:24

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1376328)
ok. I dont have any coupons but I will pick up some tablet. Too bad note 10.1 or new ipad mini isn't available yet. And Today surface 2 surfuced.

Surface 2 won't be out until October 22nd. Updated iPad Mini, no release date.

You're not even in the US are you?

Dave999 2013-09-23 21:30

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1376333)
Surface 2 won't be out
You're not even in the US are you?

no, not yet. But im invading US tomorrow. So gear up gerbick! Im coming for your tech... ;)

ysss 2013-09-25 07:31

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
I came for my gf's tech this weekend. It was ok.

Dave999 2013-09-27 19:58

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Wtf B&H NYC closed for a week because of holiday. Lame.

Edit: finally open.I just came to the conclusion that almost everything(read: products bought in store) Is pretty cheap. I still don't understand this tax thing.why not included it in the total...after all, that is what the customers need to know.

Great store after all. I did my best to get the us economy to get back on track. :D

Lumiaman 2013-10-09 21:49

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
They are all furloughed thanks to Repugs and their Taleban comrades.

Dave999 2013-10-12 11:26

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1379690)
They are all furloughed thanks to Repugs and their Taleban comrades.

Not sure what you are saying or mena. An explanation Wood be appropriate.

gerbick 2013-10-12 23:57

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1380148)
Not sure what you are saying or mena. An explanation Wood be appropriate.

US government is closed, most people blame the Republicans, which some people call the Repugnants and their tactics are rather extreme because they're not getting what they want; thus shut down the government by not doing their job(s).

Look it up on the Interwebz.

Dave999 2013-10-13 06:58

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Ok, so it's time for us to act. Increase tax on tech a stat working on the loans. Repungs and obamians must get in more money than what they are spending. Tech is too cheap...

gerbick 2013-10-13 07:18

Re: Why is tech so very cheap in US?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1380301)
Ok, so it's time for us to act. Increase tax on tech a stat working on the loans. Repungs and obamians must get in more money than what they are spending. Tech is too cheap...

I dare you to make less sense. No, really. It's on... consider yourself dared.


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