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Win7Mac 2013-03-01 19:01
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Don't forget the IMAP folders bug in mail app.
Very annoying...

saleki 2013-03-01 23:30
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
oh, and skype video calls too :p

Lucazz990 2013-03-02 10:11
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saleki (Post 1326295)
oh, and skype video calls too :p
This should be quite impossible to get, at least from Nokia...

nando.orleans 2013-03-02 18:47
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Wouldn't it be better if we ask Nokia to give us the Harmattan source code? :D

Lucazz990 2013-03-02 20:07
Quote:
Originally Posted by nando.orleans (Post 1326427)
Wouldn't it be better if we ask Nokia to give us the Harmattan source code? :D
That would be awesome :)

justadude 2013-03-02 21:34
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
I agree. Or make it so that someone on the outside can fix the sort of issues that are being ignored.

herpderp 2013-03-02 22:40
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nando.orleans (Post 1326427)
Wouldn't it be better if we ask Nokia to give us the Harmattan source code? :D
Yeah... I see you are new here. This has been discussed to death here, and the concensus is that it will never happen, so stop dreaming and wake up.

khan.orak 2013-03-02 22:54
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Is it possible that someone reverse engineer Skype and allow video calls on it?

Why is reverse engineering not considered?

herpderp 2013-03-03 00:18
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by khan.orak (Post 1326471)
Is it possible that someone reverse engineer Skype and allow video calls on it?

Why is reverse engineering not considered?
It's so difficult that we can say it's borderline impossible.

sony123 2013-03-03 02:13
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1326480)
It's so difficult that we can say it's borderline impossible.
Skyhost video library is on device, but no one knows if it's a working version or not. Telepathy-spirit needs rewriting. Both are closed source... it will take a lot of reverse engineering and collaboration to make this happen.

Wallace 2013-03-03 10:15
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Well there is hope that Skype video call will be ivestigated. (if it is duable...)

Maybe a good idea to suport him.....

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=45

Garp 2013-03-03 12:19
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucazz990 (Post 1326134)
This should be the final version...


Any suggestion? ;)
Include the calendar bug(s) and then just send the petition!
Good initative:)

abubakar 2013-03-03 21:12
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
does nokia even have any linux developer left in the company :O

tortoisedoc 2013-03-03 21:49
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1326470)
Yeah... I see you are new here. This has been discussed to death here, and the concensus is that it will never happen, so stop dreaming and wake up.
Hmm - I thought somewhere on the license papers I read that consumers have up to 2014 (or was it 2013) to ask Nokia for CDs of Kernel sources (via written request). Apparently I wasnt dreaming:

http://www.nokia.com/za-en/support/p...C_FILE001.html

But I guess this applies only to the open source parts.

Lucazz990 2013-03-04 14:08
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abubakar (Post 1326662)
does nokia even have any linux developer left in the company :O
It shouldn't be a problem for Nokia to find someone who is capable to do this work... if they want to... :)

Lucazz990 2013-03-04 14:17
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Win7Mac (Post 1326269)
Don't forget the IMAP folders bug in mail app.
Very annoying...
Is there a report of this in harmattan-bugs or a thread here?

Win7Mac 2013-03-04 15:24
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Report of this in harmattan-bugs:
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455
One thread among others here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86068

I hope the suckers at Nokia-BoD remember their proclamation of support for N9 until 2015. Can't we force them legally to fulfill that?
I knew the N9 was somewhat buggy when I bought it, so I bought that promise too...

Anyway, good luck!

Lucazz990 2013-03-04 15:41
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Win7Mac (Post 1326799)
Report of this in harmattan-bugs:
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455
One thread among others here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86068

I hope the suckers at Nokia-BoD remember their proclamation of support for N9 until 2015. Can't we force them legally to fulfill that?
I knew the N9 was somewhat buggy when I bought it, so I bought that promise too...

Anyway, good luck!
That was only a tweet, there isn't any legal implication... however, a promise is a promise!

Lucazz990 2013-03-04 15:43
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
I think we are ready to go...
Quote:
Dear Nokia,
we belong to a strange kind of people, the customers who bought a Nokia N9. This is a very unlucky smartphone: few updates, few apps and tiny support. But there is a great community beside it, people that decided to buy it anyway despite its destiny was already known because it IS a great and a simply innovative smartphone. Anyway, it has still a few issues: the battery level suddenly drops to 4% when battery is stressed or randomly changes after reboot, sms bugs, the calendar view or the missing copy/paste in mail... Lots of issues were already reported to the bug tracker. Now, these are simple but annoying bugs and what we request is a bug fixing, which we think is due also because support was promised until 2015. Everyone here is aware of the decision to focus on Windows Phone but please Nokia, don't forget about us and above all don't forget that we are largely loyal customers that believed in you also in the darkest days of your history. Making us happy giving us finally a fully reliable product is not a big effort for you.
Regards,

your "still many" N9 owners

For example, some bugs are:
- battery drop http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144
- sms bug http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=113
- folders in imap mail http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455
- calendar issues (3rd panel doesn't show an event more than 39 days ahead)
Any suggestion/add before trying this? :)

veeall 2013-03-04 17:24
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Battery drop bug is annoying. Does somebody here knows how to get it back to correct battery readings without a reboot? I had 40% battery which suddenly dropped to 4%, but after reboot i had about 20% still, thus almost half of power gone rebooting a phone. And i needed badly a battery to last.

Yes, Nokia should fix it, regardless their current mobile phone strategy.

rainisto 2013-03-04 17:29
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucazz990 (Post 1326805)
I think we are ready to go...

Any suggestion/add before trying this? :)
Your only hope to get these fixed is to post the petition to the community and hope that community fixes these... :)

There is _zero_ Harmattan R&D people still in Nokia to fix any bugs (they all have been fired quite a while ago), nobody has even read harmattan bugzilla since january 2012. If there are any subcontactors left, they will only fix critical security releated bugs, like if some easy to use sim unlock exploit get released then there is a small change that it will be looked into. (Although even that might be ignored, since TMO already had a thread of how to bruteforce calculate the sim unlock code, and that hole was just ignored).

rainisto 2013-03-04 18:14
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by veeall (Post 1326826)
Battery drop bug is annoying. Does somebody here knows how to get it back to correct battery readings without a reboot? I had 40% battery which suddenly dropped to 4%, but after reboot i had about 20% still, thus almost half of power gone rebooting a phone. And i needed badly a battery to last.

Yes, Nokia should fix it, regardless their current mobile phone strategy.
Its not a bug but feature, battery drainage is not linear like explained in here http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.f...-draining.html

There is no way to fix the feature since voltages measured from battery can vary randomly.

Bharateeyudu 2013-03-04 18:26
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucazz990 (Post 1326805)
I think we are ready to go...


Any suggestion/add before trying this? :)
I noticed a minor bug recently in the recent call log. When I open call log the default view ("Recent Calls") shows the information correctly, with recent calls marked as "Today", "Yesterday", "Last Week", and "Older".

However, when I tap the top bar ("Recent Calls") to select a category (Missed, Received or Dialed), and then revert back to "Recent Calls", it messes up the time stamps and doesn't group the call logs correctly.

Pardon me if it doesn't make a lot of sense, but you can try it by following the steps:

1. Open call log through 'Phone' app
2. Notice the time stamps, the dates and the description match (Today, Yesterday, etc.)
3. Tap the top bar that reads "Recent calls" and select any of the options "Missed, Received or Dialed"
4. The time stamps for the filtered list still matches
5. Now tap on the top bar again and select "Recent calls" and you'll notice that the time stamps and descriptions don't match. Today will actually include calls from today, and two past days, similarly yesterday and last week!

Lucazz990 2013-03-04 18:51
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bharateeyudu (Post 1326847)
I noticed a minor bug recently in the recent call log. When I open call log the default view ("Recent Calls") shows the information correctly, with recent calls marked as "Today", "Yesterday", "Last Week", and "Older".

However, when I tap the top bar ("Recent Calls") to select a category (Missed, Received or Dialed), and then revert back to "Recent Calls", it messes up the time stamps and doesn't group the call logs correctly.

Pardon me if it doesn't make a lot of sense, but you can try it by following the steps:

1. Open call log through 'Phone' app
2. Notice the time stamps, the dates and the description match (Today, Yesterday, etc.)
3. Tap the top bar that reads "Recent calls" and select any of the options "Missed, Received or Dialed"
4. The time stamps for the filtered list still matches
5. Now tap on the top bar again and select "Recent calls" and you'll notice that the time stamps and descriptions don't match. Today will actually include calls from today, and two past days, similarly yesterday and last week!
I tried but it's all as it should be... :confused:

Bharateeyudu 2013-03-04 19:24
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucazz990 (Post 1326860)
I tried but it's all as it should be... :confused:
That's weird... maybe it's just my N9! :(

tortoisedoc 2013-03-04 19:30
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by veeall (Post 1326826)
Battery drop bug is annoying. Does somebody here knows how to get it back to correct battery readings without a reboot? I had 40% battery which suddenly dropped to 4%, but after reboot i had about 20% still, thus almost half of power gone rebooting a phone. And i needed badly a battery to last.

Yes, Nokia should fix it, regardless their current mobile phone strategy.
For me moving the power saving settings from 20 to 10% does the job - sometime.
It is indeed a weird bug. I wonder if it is in the QT Layer..

EDIT : Sorry, just noticed this now :

Quote:
Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1326840)
Its not a bug but feature, battery drainage is not linear like explained in here http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.f...-draining.html

There is no way to fix the feature since voltages measured from battery can vary randomly.
the fact that the battery life is not linear is understandable; but the fact that it drops from barely above power saving to switching completely off without nothing in between goes way bejond that imo..

sony123 2013-03-04 19:36
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1326830)
Your only hope to get these fixed is to post the petition to the community and hope that community fixes these... :)

There is _zero_ Harmattan R&D people still in Nokia to fix any bugs (they all have been fired quite a while ago), nobody has even read harmattan bugzilla since january 2012. If there are any subcontactors left, they will only fix critical security releated bugs, like if some easy to use sim unlock exploit get released then there is a small change that it will be looked into. (Although even that might be ignored, since TMO already had a thread of how to bruteforce calculate the sim unlock code, and that hole was just ignored).
Then why is there twitter update for N950? Seems strange if Nokia isn't planning something (no matter how small it will be).

Or maybe the contractor accidentally released something XD

tortoisedoc 2013-03-04 19:44
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 1326876)
Then why is there twitter update for N950? Seems strange if Nokia isn't planning something (no matter how small it will be).

Or maybe the contractor accidentally released something XD
Single App update !== FW update, unfortunately.
Stop dreaming...

Lucazz990 2013-03-04 20:39
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 1326876)
Then why is there twitter update for N950? Seems strange if Nokia isn't planning something (no matter how small it will be).

Or maybe the contractor accidentally released something XD
They are updating twitter because of the new API, 1.1, I'm not an expert but afaik without this update the app should stop working properly...

veeall 2013-03-04 21:10
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1326840)
Its not a bug but feature, battery drainage is not linear like explained in here http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.f...-draining.html

There is no way to fix the feature since voltages measured from battery can vary randomly.
Ok, but i just now happened to have a sudden battery drop to 04%, i tried few refreshes from a n9 qtwek refresher, and after doing 'restart bme' battery level jumped back to 15%.

As you know phone switches itself off when on low battery, even if it is just misreported to be low, but rebooting takes another unnecessary toll on power level. Anyway, there's hope i don't need to do full reboot but hopefully restarting bme(for what that stands for?) is enough, as happened just now.

rob_kouw 2013-03-04 21:58
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
About the battery: past weeks when I went out geocaching, the battery collapsed after two hours. However, it was freezing back then, and AGTL and the GPS consume a lot of power. Bringing the N9 back to body temperature showed a battery level of 35% again, able to run AGTL again but not for long.

Hariainm 2013-03-05 02:50
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
@rainisto
totally unrelated to the topic, but what's your job situation now? Just wondering

rainisto 2013-03-05 04:17
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1326949)
@rainisto
totally unrelated to the topic, but what's your job situation now? Just wondering
Yes, totally unrelated to the topic. But the answer is that I'm working for Jolla nowadays.

Lucazz990 2013-03-05 08:34
Quote:
Originally Posted by veeall (Post 1326826)
Battery drop bug is annoying. Does somebody here knows how to get it back to correct battery readings without a reboot? I had 40% battery which suddenly dropped to 4%, but after reboot i had about 20% still, thus almost half of power gone rebooting a phone. And i needed badly a battery to last.

Yes, Nokia should fix it, regardless their current mobile phone strategy.
Check the first page of the Profilematic's topic for a kind of "fix"... Better than nothing, but a fix from nokia is still due.

rainisto 2013-03-05 08:38
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucazz990 (Post 1326985)
Check the first page of the Profilematic's topic for a kind of "fix"... Better than nothing, but a fix from nokia is still due.
Link to actual post ofcourse is also helpfull:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=885

Lucazz990 2013-03-05 10:28
Re: [PETITION TO NOKIA] Bug fixing for N9
 
Ok guys, I pushed the petition to change.org! Please subscribe, also if you think it's a waste of time! :D

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petition...g-for-nokia-n9

Lucazz990 2013-03-05 17:17
Come on guys.. :)

v0id 2013-03-05 18:25
Re: [PLEASE JOIN] Petition for bug fixing for N9
 
lazy tmo :p

MarcAnton 2013-03-05 18:28
Re: [PLEASE JOIN] Petition for bug fixing for N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucazz990 (Post 1327080)
Come on guys.. :)
subscribed :)

Lucazz990 2013-03-06 09:50
Here it's raining but it's still a nice day to sign a petition :D


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