Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Sorry, but it's not appropriate thread for that kind of questions. Try in "competitors".

recluse, are you entirely sure, that our current (for Fremantle) emulator uses/should use GPU?not that it's impossible, but after all, it's emulator, those tends to run on CPU, mainly (thus all fuss about Just-in-time compiler, etc).

AapoRantalainen, any comment on this, from perspective of someone who brought it for us?

/Estel

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

We can made change in omap3-opp.h S166M value to higher state and try to overclock L3 (memory/gpu) to speed up whole system.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

We can made change in omap3-opp.h S166M value to higher state and try to overclock L3 (memory/gpu) to speed up whole system.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Sorry, but it's not an apporpriate reply to a seemingly genuine question. Don't need to make a mess and open random threads, as this seems like a one-off question.

@kownas
There's no way to tell what you would need. Its because Android runs most things in a Virtual Machine like an emulator. Running an "emulator in an emulator" is pretty bad way of doing things. While Android can read with C++, there's no single application out there that's purely C++, there's always Dalvik components. Long story short: you'd need a significantly faster Android phone to run it decently. Otherwise, you'll have to wait for the devs (buy em a beer?) and hope they can get most of the crucial things to run at decent pace on Android. Perhaps the new 64-bit architecture ARM chips and the more powerful Android 5.0 will reduce the boundary. But All-In-All, as I said from the start there is NO way to tell, just wait and see.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

I tried ppsspp 0.75 gold version in nitdroid and :

Saint seiya omega are running 23-26 fps with crap sound .

And with ppsspp v0.7.5-242-gd610da2 you can play with n900 keyboard

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Please, porting last version ppsspp on n900

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

The latest version is 0.76 and compilations builds 0.76-x.x.x , for nitdroid ppsspp-v0.7.6-306-g15a05e5-android.apk.

In maemo Verison7 v3.

Aah a wii emulator in android, In theory will be optimized for opengles 3 , snapdragon 600 support it. (htc one, galaxy s4). The Begining.........

Edit:

In nitdroid 2.3.4 with ppsspp 0.7.6 free version playstore

dbz evolution 60fps into menus and 40fps in training mode with goku and bulma players with desert 1 screen and in settings:

sound:disable

graphics: vertex cache and hardware transformation enabled. Others disabled

system: dynarec and fast memory and crypto save enabled
others disabled
frameskip and show fps enabled.

n900 1150max-500min with cpu master pro or setcpu.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

samipower,
Can you make the video of gameplay ?

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Without problem , perhaps tomorrow

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

When you're emulating a console that has a GPU, it is essential to use your GPU to replicate the display queue.
Areas that GPUs excel at are obviously very hard for CPUs to emulate (often up to a tenth of the speed).
The use of GPUs in modern consoles have allowed us to have amazing graphics and special effects. Realistically you would need an incredibly fast multi-core processor to simulate these effects.

Some emulators are just lazy. Especially for consoles that have weak hardware and are easy to emulate. Also, it's only recently (4-5 years) that mobile GPUs had a decent GL API (GLES 2.0). Before that, we couldn't run shaders on mobile for eg. I suspect that's why no one ever made a GPU plugin for PSX (GLES 1.0 doesn't count).

Definitely with PSP (PPSSPP) and Gamecube/Wii (Dolphin), the GPU is taken to maximum advantage in order to get playable results on weak hardware.
Without this, PSP and Gamecube/Wii would not be possible on mobile devices.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Newest version (0.7.6) for Maemo5, opening post updated.

It is upstream version compiled for N900 (so I would not say it is 'ported').

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

It is very rare. I tried

maemo version 0.7.6+git 42bf90728fc46ced6dbb6f9234a004019b9aa3dd
nitdroid version 0.7.6+git 42bf90728fc46ced6dbb6f9234a004019b9aa3dd

And in dragon ball evolution equal settings , and cpu 1150mhz
maemo 30fps
nitdroid 40fps

10fps more in nitdroid

and others games tried and nitrdoid forever more better speed than maemo build.

You can play with keyboard or gamepad, but both versions are slow.

The solution soldering a arm double core in n900:D jaja (joke, It is not possible)

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

You are wrong, it is possible...

but phone did not work :)

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

arm9 use different motherboard ,not possible.

Edit: ppsspp 0.8 out

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Any improvements?

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Here:
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/maemo5/p...emo1_armel.deb

(git 3c8b7d3f33a0e341149655ed2ee61920035ff636)

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Aapo, what about pushing updated cmake to devel?

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Qemu on builder seg faults:
qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fre...log.FAILED.txt

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Maybe try setting up the scratchbox targets as the autobuilder ones to have easier to investigate the case? IIRC even updating qemu to the harmattan sdk one fixed some problems (some armel apps don't run with harmattan rootstrap but with fremantle sbox qemu)

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

I don't know how to do that. I haven't found documentation how autobuilder is set up (or even who did it).

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

any games performance improvement in latest version ?

It's just the same as normal scratchbox1 maemo sdk setup. You should find it on wiki.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

ppsspp 0.9 available in android/nitdroid waiting for a maemo port..

More faster than older versions, and If you modify the ppsspp.ini improve speed.

I tried in nitdroid and , Oh yeah baby, .

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

It is here now. Link is on the first post.

Can you share best tips for: /home/user/ppsspp.ini ?
It has 96 rows and some are very clear what they do, but some are not.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

thanks for the latest version Aapo. Can anyone update us that which games are playable ?

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

I modified ppsspp.ini in 0.8 version and a little better , in 0.9 and I am testing in maemo...... and in nitdroid.... . Each game ,one configuration, Not universal configuration for all games running well.

Testing....

edit:

Maemo configuration:

game settings:

mode buffered rendering
frameskiping off
force max gow on
alternative speed unlimited

features:
hardware transform on
vertex cache on
mipmapping on

show fps counter: both

texture filtering: texture filter nearest

audio:
enable sound and enable atrac3+ two options off-disable

system:

emulation:

dynarec jit on
io thread on
cpu 0

In nitdroid: equal but in system-emulation : fast memory on

Into maemo this option unstable , not works well.

Testing....

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

frameskipping could help a lot with performance. In dosbox, frameskip 1 isn't noticeable by naked eye on normal speed even on desktops, and frameskips 2-4 are hardly noticeable on N900. In the same time, it fixes most performance issues (except for System Shock).

/Estel

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

I tried frameskip auto an 1-2-3 but in my n900 better frameskip off, but in others n900 perhaps is better frameskip on .

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

guys, I need some help here...
I keep getn the attached error n its kinda makes it impossible to update or upgrade on my phone....

any clues on how I can sort this out pls

thanks in advance

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

apt-get autoremove , clean, --force , etc....... , remove ppsspp , or apt-get update , apt-get -f install , and apt-get upgrade , the libraries for ppspp in page 1.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

they all give me the same error sami, the screenprnt I sent earlier..
and I can install from HAM.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

what say
P.S. install openshh-server to phone, use ssh client to connect and use copy-paste for logs. Way better than screencapture.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

ppsspp 0.9.1 new ,look more better, I played in a xperia play cpu 1 core adreno 205 some games full speed 60fps, without sound.

Waiting for maemo version, I deleted all information in my phone and I am re-installing all.

I will upload a new video with ppsspp 0.9.1 in nitdroid and in maemo when version released. For compare with older versions.

Regards

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

ppsspp 0.9.1 for Maemo5 is ready. Download link on first post.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

I am very busy, but the video comparison is near, and bad news, in nitdroid run well in maemo , or in my n900 run games but with hits and freeze and hits, the games are running slow with pauses-freezes into maemo, in nitdroid running slow or playable normally without pauses.

This week, I will erase all my n900, and with n900 clean ,I will try again, with normal maemo and maemo kernel v52 and into nitdroid. And with some games and I will upload a youtube video.

And I tried in galaxy note 2 with overclock cpu and gpu ,and optimal settings and god of war run slow. Others games 60fps ok.

Edit:

Bad news, I tried 30 games and in nitdroid or maemo, horrible speed, poor, with optimal settings , tomorrow I will upload a new video for youtube. But I tried and tried and .... please two-four cores and better gpu :D but is funny . Ultra slow-speed :p

Dragon ball evolution only game playable good speed at the moment

With n900 into maemo with only Qcpu freq 1150mhz or with xterminal :
kernel-config load dsp with this settings ///(1000:60:600)//
identical fps speed
but for example with 1000:60:600 more better framerate recording 720p(but better video resolution dvd 16:9 perfect speed audio-vido)

I will erase my n900 today because into nitdroid Dragon ball evolution only game playable good speed without freezes
but into maemo with freezes and stops.

Any person have freezes playing dragon ball evolution or it is my mobile???

edit2:

optimal settings for dragon ball evolution

N900:cpu 1150mhz maemo-nitdroid

ppsspp
-mode buffered rendering
-frameskiping auto
-force max gow on
-alternative speed unlimited

features:
-hardware transform on
-vertex cache on
-mipmapping on

-show fps counter: off

-texture filtering: texture filter nearest

audio:
-all disable

system:

-emulation:

-dynarec jit on
-Others off
-cpu clock 0

-In nitdroid: equal but in system-emulation : fast memory on

Good play:)

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

ppsspp 0.9.5 new version compiled in android.
I tried and tried 46 games tried. And nothing, bad results ,all games very slow.
Only dragon ball evolution very good fps playable without sound.

(I into nitdroid Dragon ball evolution game playable very good speed without freezes
but into maemo very good fps with freezes and stops).

Any person have freezes playing dragon ball evolution or it is my problem into maemo system???

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

v0.9.5 should compile for Maemo now.
I'm doing automatic builds for Meego Harmattan again.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

ppsspp 0.9.5 for Maemo5 is ready. Download link on the first post.
(two patches needed, going to the upstream)

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

very strange error with in my n900 with 0.95 maemo, touch tactil keyboard are not working into any game, but yes in menu. 0.91 version all ok. 0-95 improvements with power vr graphic cards. ppsspp maemo freezes playing, nitdroid without freezes any idea??.

dragon ball better game speed.

Re: [Announce] ppsspp (psp-emulator) for maemo5
 

Latest 0.9.6 version seems to have many speed improvements that would help our N900....

@AapoRantalainen when you have some free minute, could you try to build the new version? Thanks!