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joerg_rw 2013-04-24 04:24

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Nomination period ended, we see 8 candidates for HF/MC council, of which 7 have sufficient karma.
No nomination period extension, since number of candidates >5
Please all candidates check and update your data (first name, last name, tmo nick, garage nick/id) and eventually your declarations on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Coun...e_declarations, i hope I haven't missed out on anybody.
Thanks to all that applied.

For the BoD election, whatever the status will be in a few weeks, for now we have too few candidates running and thus go into a 4 week extended nomination period. Future will show if HFC can continue with this process as a legitimate BoD election or will cancel or modify the process according to what HFC decides.

jOERG
(on behalf of council)

jalyst 2013-04-24 04:36

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1338384)
tmo gets handled by tmo maintainer (incl appointing mods and all)
If a tmo mod doesn't behave you complain at tmo maintainer. If tmo maintainer doesn't behave, you complain at council. If any of the involved persons has a seat in council, then that person won't participate in that particular case getting discussed in council. Simple as that. Please stop constructing problems from nothing.

Fair enough, makes sense & keeps things simple. What of the prior matter?
(raised mainly here & here, but also partly in my 1st 2 posts on pg4)
It's obviously too late now, but I think it's something we should strive for next time.

joerg_rw 2013-04-24 05:02

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1338396)
What of the prior matter?
(raised mainly on this page, but also partly raised in my 1st 2 posts on pg4)
It's obviously too late now, but I think this something we should strive for next time round.

there's no rules beyond the well known http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Coun...ection_process bullet 1,
Quote:

Nominations will be accepted 2 weeks before the election begins from any community member with a karma of 100 or above.
and I don't see how to select nominees based on any such rule you suggest. Everybody complying with the rules as of above mentioned #1 has a right to self-nominate. It's the elections that give you the power to vote for whatever distribution of council members you like. If there are not the candidates available you would've liked to see running, then you failed to (self-)nominate and convince others to accept those nominations you made.

/j

minimos 2013-04-24 05:58

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
From my elector's perspective, it would be good if the candidates could add in their declarations some kind of 'promise' that they won't give up and resign after just a couple of weeks as activities on the Board.

joerg_rw 2013-04-24 06:02

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1338408)
From my elector's perspective, it would be good if the candidates could add in their declarations some kind of 'promise' that they won't give up and resign after just a couple of weeks as activities on the Board.

This is not about board (HiFo BoD) elections, this is about council elections. But I get your POV anyway. We had 2 step-downs on council as well.
/j

mrsellout 2013-04-24 13:51

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Now that we have our candidates lined up, what do they think of ivgalvez' suggestion of the establishment of a Community repository for Harmattan?

I think this would help redress the Karma imbalance (current contributions by Harmattan developers don't accrue any) and is essential due to the malfunctioning Apps for Meego.

joerg_rw 2013-04-24 14:48

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
As I think qwazix already stated in words I can't find any better, any council ever will be highly supportive when a community group tackles such a project and approaches council for whatever help or support. However please understand that it's not council that starts or executes any projects, nor does council have any power to push developers into a particular direction. RzR already aproached me regarding hosting of such a repo, and I told him right now we're short on disk space on our server but we could *easily* get the CPU, RAM, and disks needed to populate a third blade, and then we have plenty of space for any such harmattan repo. The funds HiFo is stashing are more than sufficient for this.
For the question why it's not already done we probably should open another thread ;-P I bet you have an idea if you didn't live under a stone the last 3 months.

[edit] Of course we also need to consider things like traffic volumes and bandwidth needed, we need to talk to IPHH about that, they offered free hosting for a defined set of resources needed, if we need significantly more than initially estimated we need to ask them if they can do this for us and what they want from us in return for it.

[edit2] You got a very valid and reasonable point in that karma issue for harmattan contributions. We need to rethink this I guess. Anyway tmo posts and tmo thanks are OS-agnostic ;-) So are wiki edits etc.

cheers
jOERG

qwazix 2013-04-24 16:45

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
I'm especially in favor of a harmattan repo, and we will have to think about what to do since meego.com will eventually go down. We sure need volunteers for this effort though, especially people that know their way around builders and repos.

woody14619 2013-04-24 18:33

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1338560)
We sure need volunteers for this effort though, especially people that know their way around builders and repos.

I like the idea as well. But the statement about needing help on the builder front is doubly important, given that MeeGo uses a very different build setup than Maemo. The whole tool chain is quite different, using COBs last I checked.

I also like the idea of updating how Karma is accumulated to include other things as well. Points for attending community or board meetings (when not holding a seat) for example. And re-investigating ideas on how to include IRC into that equation, as that's a very active sub-segment of the community as well.

Any Karma changes would probably merit a great deal of thought though, and probably a multi-option referendum. But that will be part of the responsibilities of the next MCC/HFC.

panjgoori 2013-04-25 04:57

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
when voting will start ?

joerg_rw 2013-04-25 05:59

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1338701)
when voting will start ?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Coun...tion_timetable

chemist 2013-05-04 12:50

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
As requested I moved the random fight from the last pages to here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89998
If you like it to be gone for good let me know.

It would be appreciated if you mind putting your knifes back.
Descent warning to all of you. If you like to get personal and fight each other; do it elsewhere or you will find yourself locked out for some days. I will not wait for any infractions to count up to the need. That includes people who might think that they are right!

joerg_rw 2013-05-08 02:32

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
council elections finished.
results:
http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=31
http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=33

more tomorrow
/j

jalyst 2013-05-08 02:38

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Woops, I assumed there was still heaps of time for the elections, I figured the referendum would be finishing much sooner.

jalyst 2013-05-08 04:10

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
I don't suppose it can be extended for another day? :-/

thedead1440 2013-05-08 04:21

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1342018)
I don't suppose it can be extended for another day? :-/

I hope this is the first and last post expressing regret at not having voted and wanting an extension. There has been more than enough advertising of the elections and if you were lazy to procrastinate till the last moment then don't spam this thread with really lame requests.

jalyst 2013-05-08 06:45

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Excuse me... I simply got the end period wrong.
What's with the personal attack? Lazy, procrastinate, lame requests.

marxian 2013-05-08 09:48

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
The results for the two elections are different. It seems some people didn't get the memo.

jalyst 2013-05-08 11:47

Re: [ELECTIONS] Board announces HFC elections
 
Yeah, I saw that, I was slightly demoralised about participating, plus I simply lost track of the end date (lots happenin IRL), wish I'd been more proactive now.


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