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TheoX 2013-05-08 16:02

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1341298)
downloaded files and i will give it a try now. but first i will create a backup incase anything goes wrong. thanks for this port.

Backup allready inside the file (uninstall method will restore original files).

TheoX 2013-05-08 16:05

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1341482)
I don't recommend install this. Tested on creative aurvana live - sound is distored. Default maemo audio settings are the best (great sound qualiity without any eq)

I can't quite say that... I don't know about your headphones, but I get distorsions only on low end headphones like the stock headphones or on other crappy bud-ear type. On my Sony & beats, the sound is crystal clear.

TheoX 2013-05-08 16:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1341484)
@n900_
Still Its Kinda "Beta" So Do Not Expect Exact Things :), Sometimes Noobs Do Talk :P Sorry If Iam Wrong :P

No, not quite, this is the last and best version. Check the changelog. No further development can be made, one, because I no longer have an N900, and two, because I don't think you can mod the pulse-audio better without rewriting it completely.

TheoX 2013-05-08 16:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1341485)
i first installed those drivers and after that i tried to install deb file and got this error.

Skip that part, if it's not working, please skip!

TheoX 2013-05-08 16:13

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.bot (Post 1341511)
nice script ,, the best thing on it that i can raise the volume of the internal speaker while calling :) thank you too much
but i have small suggestion can u make the boost be on 2 steps not one
so we can get to steps of raising volume cause i find some times normal sound too low ! , and beats sound too high ! (while calling)

I didn't quite understand what is your problem, please rephrase that :)

TheoX 2013-05-08 16:15

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.bot (Post 1341796)
r u sure the script don't modify any thing about the gsm chip ?
cause my sim card died yesterday !!

Yes, there's not possible relation between those two. Considering this, a reflash should solve the SIM card problem, but it's not solving it, so it's a hardware issue. This piece of software can only break your internal speaker or your headphone, that the maximum damage it can do, and I think I solved that problem :).

Cheers.

stickymick 2013-05-08 16:44

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
I would like to be able to improve the audio output of the handset, but I'm not sure I'm prepared to risk the outcome of using the script.

Needs a bit more work, methinks with maybe a UI and a limiter in the script so it's not so easy to take it above a safe limit.

But having said that I've actually come across some docking stations that are so p*ss weak that listening to audio via the N900's speakers is way higher than going through the docking station.

Alecsandru 2013-05-08 17:27

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
would be nice a gui , but the the bass boost is too much for the headphones , even the beats ones , it distorts heavy compared to stock mafw

TheoX 2013-05-08 18:24

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1342151)
I would like to be able to improve the audio output of the handset, but I'm not sure I'm prepared to risk the outcome of using the script.

Needs a bit more work, methinks with maybe a UI and a limiter in the script so it's not so easy to take it above a safe limit.

But having said that I've actually come across some docking stations that are so p*ss weak that listening to audio via the N900's speakers is way higher than going through the docking station.

A limiter function is active inside the script file. There is no such thing as a SAFE LIMIT. That limit is set by your hearing. If you like loud, the limit is higher, otherwise, the limit should be lower. Beats audio require a high sound output, if you use low end headphones there is no need for this script. But if you have both, keep the volume down, don't crank it up to 100% and then come here and cry.

I added that warning just because I felt the need to WARN the people that, the device is already old, so the speakers resistance is not like in the first day, there's dust in there now, maybe the rubber is not that strong anymore, and they can break them if they expose them to higher output.

TheoX 2013-05-08 18:27

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alecsandru (Post 1342171)
would be nice a gui , but the the bass boost is too much for the headphones , even the beats ones , it distorts heavy compared to stock mafw

Please post your headphone model. I think I tested it out on Beats and there were no distorsions...

quailstorm 2013-05-08 19:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Did anyone tried out this with a REAL Beats headphone? I borrowed a Detox Pro... But I don't wanna install anything ****. I use a script for 20% louder sound, this causes distortsion on the speakers, but works very well with Sony HPM-70... I have never got the original earbuds.
So what's the quality after installing?

stickymick 2013-05-08 19:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1342187)
A limiter function is active inside the script file. There is no such thing as a SAFE LIMIT. That limit is set by your hearing. If you like loud, the limit is higher, otherwise, the limit should be lower. Beats audio require a high sound output, if you use low end headphones there is no need for this script. But if you have both, keep the volume down, don't crank it up to 100% and then come here and cry.

I added that warning just because I felt the need to WARN the people that, the device is already old, so the speakers resistance is not like in the first day, there's dust in there now, maybe the rubber is not that strong anymore, and they can break them if they expose them to higher output.

I was under the impression that the script had the potential to wreck the speakers of the N900.
The headphones I use at the moment are Philips SHN5500.

coderus 2013-05-08 19:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
i'm sorry, but where is driver?
i see only many text files inside deb.

TheoX 2013-05-08 20:21

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1342198)
I was under the impression that the script had the potential to wreck the speakers of the N900.
The headphones I use at the moment are Philips SHN5500.

They seem good, after seeing the specs...

TheoX 2013-05-08 20:33

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1342199)
i'm sorry, but where is driver?
i see only many text files inside deb.

I would like to present to you a little script I did for myself that I called Beats Audio Driver. SCRIPT > GIVEN NAME > BEATS AUDIO DRIVER.

I said it's a script, didn't you read?

Mr.bot 2013-05-12 19:17

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1342139)
Yes, there's not possible relation between those two. Considering this, a reflash should solve the SIM card problem, but it's not solving it, so it's a hardware issue. This piece of software can only break your internal speaker or your headphone, that the maximum damage it can do, and I think I solved that problem :).

Cheers.

thx for your replay , i don't know what happend to my sim card but i went to my service provider and changed the old sim by new one and it works good right now
i'm working now by the driver and it's really good when ur in the street and you wanna make call at a loud place
thanks for your effort man ?

TheoX 2013-05-13 22:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.bot (Post 1343070)
thx for your replay , i don't know what happend to my sim card but i went to my service provider and changed the old sim by new one and it works good right now
i'm working now by the driver and it's really good when ur in the street and you wanna make call at a loud place
thanks for your effort man ?

You're welcome!

Your SIM card maybe got demagnetized. It's a commont problem that most of SIM cards have. I work sometimes near large speakers (being a DJ as a hobby) and I sometimes place the phone on the large speakerbox, unintentionally, and the after a while the SIM card refuses to work and shows me weird messages on screen like: INACTIVE SIM, and stuff like that. I go to my service provider, get a new sim, and voila working like new. I keep all my contacts, calendar and stuff like that on Google. But this happend with my Sony U5, with my HTC, but... unfortunately, my N900's GSM chip is dead for good, and it's no SIM problem.

vi_ 2013-05-14 07:38

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Can you explain to me what this is?

I know beats headphones, the overpriced tat endorsed by by that 90's pop star. I know they have started branding mobile phones.

Can you explain what this is in terms of what it actually does?

Is it a MAFW equaliser plugin with a certain equalisation curve?

Is it a pulse audio plugin? Is it pulse audio configuration files?

What exactly does your script do?

Hurrian 2013-05-14 09:33

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
The Pulseaudio configuration files provided in the package are completely obscure to me, but doing a few quick tests, it configures Pulse's EQ for each output sink to be similar to those on Beats Audio devices (HTC phones).

The Beats sound is characterized by how fat the bass range sounds, which for phone speakers seems to improve the audio output (as it compensates for tiny speakers having nil bass).

However, testing the Beats Audio settings on my N900 wired up to a Schiit Magni and Grado SR125i, it's immediately obvious that if you're not a basshead/avid fan of Skrillex, you'll dislike how skewed the reproduction is.

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCom...=2851&scale=30

vi_ 2013-05-14 09:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Thanks Hurrian, that is what I wanted to see.

TheoX 2013-05-14 10:13

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1343483)
The Pulseaudio configuration files provided in the package are completely obscure to me, but doing a few quick tests, it configures Pulse's EQ for each output sink to be similar to those on Beats Audio devices (HTC phones).

The Beats sound is characterized by how fat the bass range sounds, which for phone speakers seems to improve the audio output (as it compensates for tiny speakers having nil bass).

However, testing the Beats Audio settings on my N900 wired up to a Schiit Magni and Grado SR125i, it's immediately obvious that if you're not a basshead/avid fan of Skrillex, you'll dislike how skewed the reproduction is.

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCom...=2851&scale=30

Thank you for this test. May I use your image in the 1st post?

Also, can you generate a graphic with the freq response of the N900 jack output compared with the graphic you posted?

Hurrian 2013-05-14 10:18

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
You can make your own graphs here.

The N900's jack doesn't have a frequency response measurement, it's not a transducer.

I think that instead, a better measurement would be to measure its' effect on the frequency response of a "reference" headphone.

(Anyone willing to go to Headroom to compare their N900, with and without the Beats tweak, to a neutral-sounding DAC+amp both hooked up to say, a Sony MDR-V6?)

TheoX 2013-05-14 10:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1343501)
You can make your own graphs here.

The N900's jack doesn't have a frequency response measurement, it's not a transducer.

I think that instead, a better measurement would be to measure its' effect on the frequency response of a "reference" headphone.

(Anyone willing to go to Headroom to compare their N900, with and without the Beats tweak, to a neutral-sounding DAC+amp both hooked up to say, a Sony MDR-V6?)

I was thinking about hooking up the N900 to an audio analyzer software via Line in, play a track with freq's between 1 and 35.000 Hz, and generate a graphic with the frequency output levels and noise level for each section.

phapsubongtoi 2013-05-14 14:43

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
I got this error when install the .deb file .
Code:

/home/user/MyDocs/BeatsAudio # dpkg -i beats-driver_0.0.1_armel.deb
(Reading database ... 41629 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking beats-driver (from beats-driver_0.0.1_armel.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing beats-driver_0.0.1_armel.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/18x18/hildon/statusarea_volume_headset_mic.png', which is also in package osso-icons-default
Errors were encountered while processing:
 beats-driver_0.0.1_armel.deb
/home/user/MyDocs/BeatsAudio #


adunanzav3x 2013-05-14 18:43

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
root
dpkg -i --force-overwrite beats-driver_0.0.1_armel.deb

Boemien 2013-06-25 00:09

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
To be honnest, this is one of the greatest idea available on the Nokia N900. I don't know if it's possible but someone could work on a script to allow skiping tracks by holding volume button when the slide is closed (I don't know if this Idea has been proposed yet, but it would be very useful).
ANYWAY THANKS A LOT FOR THIS SCRIPT.

TheoX 2013-06-25 11:16

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 1354508)
To be honnest, this is one of the greatest idea available on the Nokia N900. I don't know if it's possible but someone could work on a script to allow skiping tracks by holding volume button when the slide is closed (I don't know if this Idea has been proposed yet, but it would be very useful).
ANYWAY THANKS A LOT FOR THIS SCRIPT.

Trust me, this is not a good ideea, the N900 have a lots of volume steps, and it's much easy to go from low volume to high by holding that button, and not going step by step. Also the shake for next previous is another system that can cause problems in the pocket.

I don't know. For me it seems like a bad idea.

Boemien 2013-06-25 14:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1354575)
Trust me, this is not a good ideea, the N900 have a lots of volume steps, and it's much easy to go from low volume to high by holding that button, and not going step by step. Also the shake for next previous is another system that can cause problems in the pocket.

I don't know. For me it seems like a bad idea.

yay! Okay thanks for your point of view. I Switched from Android to the N900, and this feature is available in Android, (in modded rom) and is very useful, cause you don't have to unlock the phone (it stays just in your pocket) to skip music tracks. I thought it would be useful for the n900 as well! But thanks for you answer.

TheoX 2013-06-25 14:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 1354616)
yay! Okay thanks for your point of view. I Switched from Android to the N900, and this feature is available in Android, (in modded rom) and is very useful, cause you don't have to unlock the phone (it stays just in your pocket) to skip music tracks. I thought it would be useful for the n900 as well! But thanks for you answer.

Right now I can finally give a final grade to this mod, as a developer, because I own a mobile device with Beats Audio Hardware Amplifier:

-Beats Audio for Android: It's most of the times just a themed version of DSP Manager from Cyanogen since the hardware is not capable of supporting the driver ported from HTC Devices running Android. Sound quality is quite good on android with DSP Manager, but it's not Beats, so on higher bass boost you get lots of distortions. The DSP Manager lacks a limiter, so damage can be done to your speakers.

-Beats Audio for N900: It modifies the internal pulse audio configuration to match 80% the frequency output of a beats audio driver, but pulse audio lacks fine tuning, so you may get distortions on low end headphones/headsets. Not like Android, I added a hardware limiter for the speakers so you can't overload them and burn them (since they are very sensible). So in my opinion Beats Audio development on N900 is much more advanced than Android. But as I said, you might still get distortions.

What is Beats Audio hardware. Now that own a device with Beats Audio Hardware i can finally understand why you can't match exactly the same output and sound quality. As your TV, DVD have a SRS digital audio processor inside, exactly like this is the Beats working. The Beats is not a software (or maybe you have just a gui), it's a hardware chip just like the SRS. When trying to add all the processing power in one software you will get awful performance (SRS software on my 2.0 Core2Duo, keeps the CPU up to 50% while in use of the audio sink). So this is the most we can do, more fine tuning than this is no more possible.

P.S. Beats audio (the original devices with hardware built-in) doesn't work on internal speaker or via AD2P, so the development on N900 is still in front! :)

As for those functions, I think the one who is going to develop them must have access to the following function: THE KEYS MUST WORK AS MEDIA CHANGE ONLY WHEN SCREEN OFF, otherwise they must work as a volume rocker.

Here are some screenshots:

Attachment 32479

Attachment 32480

P.S.S. Even on Windows Phone, the volume rocker don't work as a media next or media previous. That function is only on some custom ROM's and some Sony-Ericsson Devices (my K850i does that).

mr_pingu 2013-06-26 20:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 1354508)
To be honnest, this is one of the greatest idea available on the Nokia N900. I don't know if it's possible but someone could work on a script to allow skiping tracks by holding volume button when the slide is closed (I don't know if this Idea has been proposed yet, but it would be very useful).
ANYWAY THANKS A LOT FOR THIS SCRIPT.

See this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...69&postcount=7

Vi_ provided a solution to enable cam focus button while locked and use shortcutd for further personalisation ;)

nokiabot 2013-06-26 20:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
I just hit the thanx butt on linked vi's post.:)

Breeze5 2013-08-14 18:43

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
So not in repo yet? :confused:

IceKeeper 2013-08-14 22:47

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
I also want to see it in the repos 'cause I wanna test it, but I'm too lazy to copy all files and work with the terminal ;)

seanmcken 2013-08-15 02:52

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
it'd be better, if possible to develope some surround sound etc like other phones have. yeha i agree with this driver but quality also is needed please. is anyone working on that?

DfLo1913 2013-08-15 03:20

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
I would like some one to make a deb file of the final verion to install. My N900 sounds way better.

seanmcken 2013-08-15 03:35

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
dude deb is already available somewhere just search it and V2.0 is rar


deb is here - talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1342087&postcount=39

DfLo1913 2013-08-15 05:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1367348)
dude deb is already available somewhere just search it and V2.0 is rar


deb is here - talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1342087&postcount=39

Yea knew that. I mean a deb of V2.0.

Breeze5 2013-12-14 17:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Can't install =(
"beats driver conflicts with volumeconrtoldeamon
volumecontroldemon (version 0.1.2) is present and installed.
dpkg: error processing beats-driver__0.0.1_armel.deb (--install):"

venomcortx1 2013-12-16 18:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Hi, TheoX. How can i contact with you? can you give me your email or skype?

mikkuss 2014-04-04 18:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beats Audio Port for N900 PulseAudio
 
Hello everyone!
I found TheoX webpage, so there you can easily find and download all his work.

http://www.purplexs.nexus-digital.us/

Cheers!


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