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milanjakob

2013-05-21 12:34

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

i like the os but the hardware design is awful, so awful that i dont think that i'll get one.

Boxeri

2013-05-21 12:35

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by ibins (Post 1345565)

Already sent them 100 Euros.

WTH is it with everybody wanting to know the exact specs? Why is it really so incredibly important to know the used SoC, its clocking, the amount of RAM, the size of the battery? Users of the N900 will definitelly get upgraded (which is not that hard comming from 256MByte RAM and 600 MHz Soc). Users of the N9 most likely will not become downgraded given that Jolla uses a dual core SoC. Are the given infos about storage space, HD display, display size not enough? Is it really a no go if there is only 1GByte RAM? Looking at the pictures also reveales, that there is no second USB port, battery capacity for half a month, epaper back or fancy laser keyboard.

Consumers should get a smooth running device. After all the software is not Android - which performance can be compared on different hardware using exactly Android version x.y.z.

Especially developers should not care that much about the exact CPU speed. Most programs should be created to perform well even on lower hardware specs - like N950 or N9.

I guess this phone is not about the competition race of Hz and Bytes ("mine is longer than yours").

I 100% agree with this!

Placed my order as soon as it was possible. I already know that the phone is probably too big for my liking, but I am ordering the phone to support their cause and ideals. I want to believe in their OS and support it and have liked what I have seen so far. Yes, despite the presentation :rolleyes: .

Dave999

2013-05-21 12:52

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

LOL, disagree 100%

Do you sending $399 to the supermarket and let them decided what food you get? You just: I don't have any food at home so anything is better than nothing.

When you are buying a new car, do you pay a price and let the car manufacture decided what color, engine and model you get just becouse you driving 15 years old skoda atm. You just: WTF it will be an upgrade anyway. :D

Stupidest post I read in a long time.

HtheB

2013-05-21 12:53

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

You know, that "Other Half" keyboard (who knows if it ever comes out), just reminds me of an old project of mine: Project N955

Rauha

2013-05-21 13:16

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345646)

This is what idiots like me did by pre-ordering:
Crowdsourcing

Here's really big site full of stupidest ideas ever (really big indeed and helluva lot more of idiots doing the stupidest idea ever):
http://www.kickstarter.com/

And here's the crowd sourcing outfit Jolla is using (handles the infrastucrture behind pre-orders):
https://www.invesdor.com/

OVK	2013-05-21 13:26

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345646)

When I go to a really good restaurant (and I mean really good) I actually happily pay something around 200-300€ and eat and drink what is offered by the chef.

However, I have not yet ordered the Jolla phone because I want to know more about the phone. It is not about the CPU, GPU or display I am uncertain about: it is The Other Half. I want to know more about the specifications of it: what can be implemented hardware wise? How will the software handle for example HWKB if one is attached as The Other Half? I also will need to know more about the software: is there for example support for (at least) two Excange accounts (DEALBREAKER for me)? Is there a good mapping solution available?

And so on...

R59	2013-05-21 13:39

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

I've pre-ordered "The Other Half" too.

I consider it an investment in the future of mobile telephony - not paying for something I haven't seen yet.

As for specs - 4.5" screen, dual core CPU, 2/3/4G connectivity etc... the basics on the Jolla site if you look. I guess there will be tweaks before the final production units are ready to go out.

I'm looking forward to getting my Jolla phone as my N9 will be quite tired by the time it's delivered! - Just like my N900 was before the N9 arrived.

Now my N9 has those awful lost messages/contact/gallery issues again..... more digging inside the machine to sort it out.

HELLASISGREECE

2013-05-21 13:43

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Undecided!

I need more info on its camera capabilities, battery capabilities, phone and (most importantly imo) music quality through headphones.

NokiaFanatic

2013-05-21 14:41

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by Boxeri (Post 1345639)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxeri (Post 1345639)

+1

I am paying for the Meego OS, not the hardware, which as the N9 has shown only doesn't even need to be spectacular.

If you look around, it's not like the community has that many alternatives. Android ticks a lot of boxes, but it will never offer true Linux computing. iOS/Windows Phone - I don't even want to think of those devices. Blackberry 10 is basically a crippled version of Meego. FirefoxOS only seems interested in web apps - which I don't believe have a future. Ubuntu is basically an Android variant and I don't trust Canonical at all. Tizen looks kind of interesting, but you can be sure that Samsung will find some way to cripple the OS, assuming they ever get around to releasing a device.

Jolla is clearly the best of the lot. We can't all wait forever stroking an N900 (certainly not if the charging port is broken like on mine!).

Kriek

2013-05-21 15:27

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Last week I accidentally sent my N900 flying :eek:. Luckily the bezel took most of the impact and saved my screen. Everything still works... I think. Once the shock subsided I quickly realised that I'll be needing a new device sometime soon.

Hardware is a fairly high priority. Things like earpiece and microphone quality, headphone jack, camera quality. Maybe they can come up with an 'other-half' that has a camera lens cover (imo one of the smartest hardware design features of the N900). Nokia was typically the best when it came to things like call clarity and quality, so this will be hard to match.

I'm not completely sold on the modular design. The connectors / clips for snap-on things tend to get worn and lose their effectiveness after repeated snapping... but I haven't seen the details of this design. As for HWKB... perhaps a snap-on / slide out would work!? Fooling around on/off with an 'other-half' every time I need to write an email is out of the question.

So I guess the Jolla device is a top contender for a year-end purchase. Hopefully the hardware developments will be compelling.

Silwer

2013-05-21 16:02

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345646)

From: https://jolla.com/care/ ALL SHOULD READ THIS SITE!!!

Q: I wish to know whether I can get a refund for a Jolla pre-order. Please help.
Ans: We here at Jolla.com do all that we can to make your experience memorable. Should you wish to claim a refund for your pre-order, you have 14 days from receipt of the package to return it. Please email us, indicating “refund”, and include your order details, including order number, order date and payment method. Once we receive your request, we will then provide you with further instructions on how to proceed.

NokiaFanatic

2013-05-21 16:17

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Originally Posted by Silwer (Post 1345697)

If you're not happy, you can pre-order for free.

Dave999

2013-05-21 16:28

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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1345707)

If you're not happy, you can pre-order for free.

I'm not happy. How do I preorder for free?

xanderx

2013-05-21 16:39

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345712)

I'm not happy. How do I preorder for free?

On the http://join.jolla.com choose the pink option.

Fellfrosch

2013-05-21 17:03

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Preordered the Jolla ltd. Edition - Other Half...

just to be unlike :D

Tsippaduida

2013-05-21 17:05

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1345674)

+1
Jolla is clearly the best of the lot. We can't all wait forever stroking an N900 (certainly not if the charging port is broken like on mine!).

I tend to think along similar lines, so I sent my 100 € to Jolla on monday. I do hope for HWKB. I also hope for micro sdxc card support so I can cram an 64GB class 10 or better in it.

Currently I have to phones: N900 and N9. The latter gets used much less than the former. Latter is my "work" phone and the former is for "private use". N900 is alive and kicking,

Scorpius

2013-05-21 17:56

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Why is nobody considering Ubuntu Phones?

I'd definitely wait until both phones (Jolla's Other Half and Ubuntu Phone) are released and I'll buy the one that has the best support. I don't want another dead end before even buying it like it happened with the N900/N9. And definitely Ubuntu Phones are getting a lot more push than Jolla phones.

What I need is 100% native Linux including real multitasking. Both phones offer that. Hardware keyboard is not mainstream, and if both phones want to sell they know they have to ditch it, even if we don't like it.

shmerl

2013-05-21 18:00

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1345738)

Why is nobody considering Ubuntu Phones?

Where are they? Canonical is yet to show any hardware. So far they didn't. And it doesn't even look that they plan to innovate on the hardware side.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1345738)

And definitely Ubuntu Phones are getting a lot more push than Jolla phones.

How can you push a non existing hardware?

RFS-81

2013-05-21 18:09

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

"Why is nobody considering Ubuntu Phones?"

Well, I use debian desktop instead of ubuntu, because ubuntu adds things - things that are a distraction. I guess the thought somehow sticks. It may be irrational, but there you have it..

As for Jolla, I need to get an idea about the general build quality, display specs and battery life before I can decide.

Artyom

2013-05-21 18:19

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

i will buy the device. for the sake of using a decent mobile os.

NokiaFanatic

2013-05-21 18:27

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1345738)

Why is nobody considering Ubuntu Phones?

Ubuntu are a bunch of spoofers - you can't even make a call or send a text from what they've shown so far. Also devices aren't even supposed to be available until 2014. To be honest, I don't think we'll ever seen see one.

jflatt

2013-05-21 18:45

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1345738)

Why is nobody considering Ubuntu Phones?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1345738)

What I need is 100% native Linux including real multitasking.

I think you answered your own question. Ubuntu carries with it a whole Android mess

praveenchand

2013-05-21 18:46

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

what about "the other half" for 40 € or 0 € options? there will be a normal one or not? any idea?

Drekkie

2013-05-21 19:41

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Probably will eventually, but I won't early-adopt and I still like my N9 very much, so it's hard to justify replacing it.

However, if a tablet came out that ran sailfish in the same spirit as the phone does, I'd be much more aggressive towards purchasing.

I'm excited with what they have announced and they have time to tweak things based on the feedback they started getting this week. Funny thing is, the same people I had a hard time explaining the benefits of N900/N9 to seem to be finally "getting it" about sailfish and the promise of the "other half" so maybe that bodes well for jolla.

tonyhuynh

2013-05-22 05:14

Dears, it's just point of view so noneed to use heavy words here! I donot expect other half. From what observed, it's already more than half, maybe I just expect 5% left!

Dave999

2013-05-22 05:20

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

What about SAR values with these two halfs?

minimos

2013-05-22 05:28

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I pre-ordered the device, with the 100€ option.
Heck, how many times in life does it happen that your friends are making a mobile phone, and an innovative one as well? ;)

Dave999

2013-05-22 05:32

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1345843)

I pre-ordered the device, with the 100€ option.
Heck, how many times in life does it happen that your friends are making a mobile phone, and an innovative one as well? ;)

Quite often if you have friends at Google, nokia or samsung ;)

danested

2013-05-22 07:20

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Me, my girlfriend, both: both have placed pre-orders for this one, the 100€ from our friend in the UK, so we can get our hands on the device asap!

d@niel

2013-05-22 07:34

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perhaps because they have left the N9 in random

would like to test first on my N9

biatch0

2013-05-22 09:37

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I've already placed my EUR100 pre-order even though my country isn't currently supported and it's lacking a HWKB/HWCambutton that I would appreciate. The EUR100 coupon is valid until end 2014, and hopefully by then they might have come up with something that ticks all my boxes. Besides, this initial "pre-order" is more like a registration of interest (while also separating those who just click the EUR0, and those who are prepared to part with their money right now). There's also the possibility that without enough interest, there might not be a Jolla around to create that next device... which would definitely make me :(

mece	2013-05-22 09:47

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I'm missing the "If I can afford it" option. I'd love to have one, but it all depends on if I have the money at the time.

ajalkane

2013-05-22 10:42

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by mece (Post 1345891)

I'm missing the "If I can afford it" option. I'd love to have one, but it all depends on if I have the money at the time.

Exactly this. As far as any known phone currently, Jolla is the one I would buy. But have to see when that happens. I'm excited anyway to have at least one phone that I can look forward to owning in future.

Lumiaman

2013-05-22 11:14

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Es barato, dame dos!

rabit

2013-05-22 11:46

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Pre-ordered my Jolla device on Monday. I'm still using my N9, wouldn't want to trade it for another phone.

rcolistete

2013-05-22 12:50

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345646)

Nobody said what you cited. Apple doesn't specify every details of their iPhones and millions of users buy them in the first days.

And your posts are the stupidest ones. Try to contribute to this community, not harm it.

trilby

2013-05-22 13:00

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Well, I put in my 0 Euro pre-order, though the fact that I'm in Canada means I like won't be seeing it for a year or two, if ever (and I refuse to pay half-again the cost of the phone just to get it imported).

gerbick

2013-05-22 22:04

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

Put in my pre-purchase, but yep. I'll get one.

Kriek

2013-05-24 04:33

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Pre-order submitted for shipping to Canada. :cool:

blackvester

2013-05-24 22:08

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?

pre-ordered ! :D