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ladoga 2013-05-28 14:42

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
-Camera app that is able to take repeated shots with timer while the phone is otherwise idle (screen off), with predefined and automatic focus modes. Hopefullly also ability to shoot raw and as good exposure and aperture control as the HW permits. Useful for example in very long exposure night shots or framing the subject with narrow DOF.

-Button listener that makes it possible to use camera flash LED as flashlight when the phone is idle. (one of the most used features of my N9)

-Integral support of open IM protocols (XMPP voice and video call). Maybe I'm repeating what others say, but this is very important to me.

abyzthomas 2013-05-28 15:03

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
* Full support for Unicode 6x with complex rendering, required for South Asian languages. (like N9)
* Access to create custom keyboard layouts apps and allow to publish like N9.
* Include keyboard layouts available in MesInput.
* Custom dictionary support
* A good Navigation solution with voice with street names
* Better speaker(s), (preferably stereo facing to the front like HTC One)
* Better volume (than N9) for speaker phone, music, etc
* Swipe down to close app
* Compass App
* Speed Test/Speed meter
* A good stock market app
* Integrated Call Recorder. Have a button on the Call UI to start/stop recording.
* System wide Copy/Paste
* Stopwatch
* Good Calculator
* IP Radio
* Notes
* Tip calculator
* Bluetooth 4 support

gerbick 2013-05-28 15:22

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
I don't want any app limited because somebody on this site doesn't use it. It didn't work for the N900, it didn't work for the N9. Limiting stuff because you don't use it, that's just you.

With that said, bring the stuff that people actually use and want to connect to easily - Google's stuff (Hangouts, Voice, Drive, Gmail), Microsoft's stuff (Outlook.com, Office 365, Skydrive), Dropbox, Box, BitTorrent Sync (personal cloud), offline Navigation, Skype, Evernote, Penultimate (sorry, but I like my handwriting note taking apps more than trying to type crap out), What'sApp/BBM/Line/Viber.

Personally I don't use nor care for Facebook or LinkedIn, but it lends credibility to the platform. So it'll need to be there in an integrated manner as would the aforesaid requests.

Esoteric requests like Adobe Ideas (or something with sketching + layers) rank high on my list as well.

Drekkie 2013-05-28 15:27

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1347459)
With that said, bring the stuff that people actually use and want to connect to easily - Google's stuff (Hangouts, Voice, Drive, Gmail), Microsoft's stuff (Outlook.com, Office 365, Skydrive), Dropbox, Box, BitTorrent Sync (personal cloud), offline Navigation, Skype, Evernote, Penultimate (sorry, but I like my handwriting note taking apps more than trying to type crap out), What'sApp/BBM/Line/Viber.

.

Agreed on all of this as priority.

And PLEASE make the music player have gapless playback by default.

Dave999 2013-05-28 15:38

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Navigation buttons in default keyboard(very important) . Copy and paste everywhere(not that important but would be nice)

youmeego 2013-05-28 15:38

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
who has confirmed to port their N9 or N900 apps to Sailfish?

m4r0v3r 2013-05-28 16:18

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
realistically. the standard stuff lol the rest I could always nab off android. What I miss the most is real time multitasking. I'd be fussed about stuff like decent battery life etc.

Hitesh 2013-05-28 16:23

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
All N900 features + FM transmitter is must.

sillieidiot 2013-05-28 17:05

- native music player needs to support flac files
- bittorrent client like transmission remote for n9
- dlna client/server
- bt needs to support aptx

marxian 2013-05-28 17:12

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drekkie (Post 1347460)
And PLEASE make the music player have gapless playback by default.

I expect the music player will use gstreamer, so you're probably SOL on that one.

ajalkane 2013-05-28 17:29

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
From Jolla I expect/wish:

- Terminal application (most important first)
- SSH access to phone. I'm spoiled with N9 just SSHing to the phone and transfering data in and out.
- Basic phone functionality: Call/SMS/MMS
- Reasonable e-mail
- Calendar with synchronization with open protocols
- IM: Telepathy framework with support for at least XMPP
- Fast camera with reasonable quality
- Maps application and hopefully navigation application
- Basic music and video player

Third-party apps I wish for:
- EasyList or something as good
- Public transportation application (Meegopas as an open-source application has been my choice and I hope it gets to Sailfish)
- MyMoves - baby Jesus might cry if we don't get it to Sailfish
- Flashlight torch - I prefer something simple like N9's PureLight that can be coupled with MyMoves to make turning it on/off fast)
- MeeCast
- WakeOnLan application (like ejjoman's excellent application)
- EggTimer or equivalent - Who wouldn't like timing eggs? Actually personally I only need the mp3 they include in that application :P.
- ProfileMatic & RingingRestorer (I think I can do these myself)
- Alkoon application
- Viiniopas
- Fart application (still missing from N9 :()

Fuzzillogic 2013-05-28 17:37

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1347372)
I would like to see this functionality:
  • IMAP IDLE support in the e-mail client
  • Bluetooth MAP (Message Access Profile) - should be included in the latest Bluez

Bluetooth PAN support. Wifi is a PITA; bluetooth doesn't need those silly passwords, can easily be paired and unpaired with any device and is low-power enough for permanent stand-by.

Bluetooth v4/smart also seems to gain some traction and might become important for smart watches et al.

IMAP support should have the decency to remove the "new e-mail" notification once you've read the e-mail on the desktop or wherever.

Oh and of course we Dutchfolks need Buienradar app. :D (I've just preordered the Jolla, that gave me a nice incentive to port the N9 variant to Sailfish :))

kumary 2013-05-28 18:03

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Apart from what all other mentioned... A decent "Free" Document Viewer and may be a paid editor. (Better if the editor is also free :) )

misterc 2013-05-28 18:17

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
  • integration of Contacts & Calender (if a contact's birthday is entered, it is automatically added to the calendar -- this has been standard on NOKIA for ages, so assume Jolla will include it by default
  • (extension of the above) a todo-list that gets default feeds from the calendar (no need to make it rocket-build-project-proof... just a list with a check-box next to each item, à la N900/Qlister
    http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1284324210
  • if a todo app is included à la N900/Qlister, tweak the code a little to make it shopping list app as well
  • tcpsvd such as it was available in Fremantle
    (can start a FTP server with
    Code:

    tcpsvd -vE 0.0.0.0 21 ftpd -w / >/dev/null 2>&1 &
    (as root))
  • (already mentioned but...) silence a call by turning device face down
    (NOKIA standard as well, thus...)
  • (already mentioned but...) someplayer, possibly with skip less transistion
  • (already mentioned but...) if Jolla wants to have any chance against Android, need to provide a built-in map / navigation solution, i'd say...
  • rpm, right? yumex >¦-)
    can't wait to get ride of that deb cr@p and yum is already going to be a benediction compared to that cr@p, but a graphical interface is nice, especially for casual users (Android user, anyone?)
  • root access with rootsh (thus none of that su~cr@p :mad:)
    yet another calamity that arose from deb / buntu :(

on a side note... how many versions of Sailfish are there going to be?
not vesion like 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 aso., but version like... well, à la Windooooz (basic, home, pro & all that)?
maybe companies licensing Sailfish will want to get a "core" version & add their own apps? certainly for hardware manufacturer, but possibly also for network operators?
:confused:

bandora 2013-05-28 18:27

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Skype with video call.. Seriously it's not acceptable anymore to have a phone that can't do Skype video call..

Honestly with Android compatibility I don't think I would as for apps since I can most probably download apps from the android market.

Drekkie 2013-05-28 18:28

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1347486)
I expect the music player will use gstreamer, so you're probably SOL on that one.

don't worry, I'm used to it. I've been screaming into the desolate chasms of gapless playback for years. At least I get to hear the familiar echos of my own voice. :)

baem90 2013-05-28 18:46

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Stream online like firstrowsport, justinTV

shmerl 2013-05-28 19:37

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1347510)
Skype with video call.. Seriously it's not acceptable anymore to have a phone that can't do Skype video call..

Why isn't it acceptable? Not everyone needs MS spyware on their devices. Having such option for those who really need it for some reason is OK, but "not acceptable for a phone" sounds a bit stretched, when Skype isn't exactly known to be user friendly.

Sorry for going off-topic, but this was standing out.

sconf 2013-05-28 20:32

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
-bluetooth keyboard and mouse support
-hdmi ouput
-configurable alarm snooze/repeat management for calendar events and other notifications
-syncml support
-dlna support: server, control point, renderer, all three

MartinK 2013-05-28 20:39

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1347462)
who has confirmed to port their N9 or N900 apps to Sailfish?

I sure will. :) ModRana is already running on Nemo Mobile, so making it work on Sailfish should be trivial. Same thing with Mieru. Provided there is a working Camera element for QML, I can also port RePho (which kinda does the timed capture described a few posts back).

Fuzzillogic 2013-05-28 20:40

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1347510)
Skype with video call.. Seriously it's not acceptable anymore to have a phone that can't do Skype video call..

IMO, the only thing unacceptable would be if it couldn't be uninstalled.

I hate the current inwash of proprietary, closed, centralized protocols.

misterc 2013-05-28 20:48

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
didn't mention any "messaging" app as Love Day's demos were so keen on showing the integration of all "messages" in one view / stream.
can't help feeling that adding distinct messaging apps would kill that "one view / stream" concept :-/
but it presumes some "modules" none the less in order to add protocols.
maybe a construction à la Pidgin?

mece 2013-05-28 21:05

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
I really like Nokia Maps and Drive, so I'd like those.
And a browser that supports Video object with support for h264/mpeg4, theora/vorbis and hls streams.

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1347508)
[...][*] if a todo app is included à la N900/Qlister, tweak the code a little to make it shopping list app as well
[...]

I actually already ported Qlister actually :)
http://i.imgur.com/XQcTu98.png
http://i.imgur.com/QjpkrId.png
http://i.imgur.com/sOpG34e.png

bandora 2013-05-28 21:07

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1347533)
Why isn't it acceptable? Not everyone needs MS spyware on their devices. Having such option for those who really need it for some reason is OK, but "not acceptable for a phone" sounds a bit stretched, when Skype isn't exactly known to be user friendly.

Sorry for going off-topic, but this was standing out.

Let me elaborate.. The reason why I said it's unacceptable because it's ridiculous if it was like Symbian + MeeGo all over again.. If they can bring Skype voice calls there should be the video call capability and not just voice calls..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1347554)
IMO, the only thing unacceptable would be if it couldn't be uninstalled.

I hate the current inwash of proprietary, closed, centralized protocols.

Also, there's something that you guys keep on forgetting.. If Jolla wants to succeed to appeal to the masses.. Then the device MUST have all those "unnecessary" and "hated" features.. Just because you don't like a feature or don't use it doesn't mean everyone is the same.. Many people use Skype and other similar "unwanted" (by your standards) features...

EDIT: To elaborate even more on Skype video.. Here's a scenario.. In my case for example, I live by myself here in the USA as a student.. My parents are in Jordan, my friends are pretty much everywhere (Jordan, Canada, England, China... etc).. So I like to talk to them and see them via Skype often...

onethreealpha 2013-05-28 21:54

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Hi all,
will get around toupdating the list this morning (GMT + 10)

would like to draw your attention to my original post.

PLEASE READ IT

This is not a discussion thread about Skype. Notwithstanding the obvious desire for this application (the reason I added it to the list), I would expect that people here are intelligent and aware enough to recognise both the closed source nature and discretionary control over platform builds that MS has on this app, and refrain form turning this into an argument about why person A wants it over Person B. - if you want to do this, take it to PM.

The intent of this thread is to get input about what poeple (anyone!) would like to see on Sailfish. Different people have different needs and this is an opportunity to express them.

Having said this PLEASE check the existing list to see if your suggestion has already been added.

thanks

pagis 2013-05-28 22:16

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quick list for me:
Dictstar
wallet
fuelpad
qnetman2/wifieye
xbmc
dlna
notes

onethreealpha 2013-05-28 22:28

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagis (Post 1347585)
Quick list for me:
Dictstar
wallet
fuelpad
qnetman2/wifieye
xbmc
dlna
notes

On a side note, I'm currently working to develop a build of minidlna with a GUI front end for .conf editing.

it's a looong road for a n00b dev, i can tell you :)

onethreealpha 2013-05-28 23:04

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
For those who have requested a tip/bill splitting app, #ChequeMate has already been ported to SailfishOS
MFaroTusino has been in touch via Twitter to confirm this.
For those with a BB10 device, it is available for download (free) from BlackBerry World.
simple, but great app.

**Note to Devs***
If you see any requests here for apps that you have already built/ported to SailfishOS and you want people to know in advance, feel free to PM me and I will post updates against the relevant requests to let people know what's coming

shmerl 2013-05-28 23:25

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1347566)
To elaborate even more on Skype video.. Here's a scenario.. In my case for example, I live by myself here in the USA as a student.. My parents are in Jordan, my friends are pretty much everywhere (Jordan, Canada, England, China... etc).. So I like to talk to them and see them via Skype often...

So what stops you and your parents and friends from using open XMPP/Jingle protocol for that? Your end goal is to have a audio/video call, and not to have a "Skype" call, right? You sound like Skype has no alternatives. Let's take this discussion elsewhere if you want, since it's going too off-topic.

shmerl 2013-05-28 23:30

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
onethreealpha: To add to the functionality:
Feature rich support for codecs in audio and video players:

* Vorbis, Flac, Opus, Speex, Mp3. etc.
* Theora, VP8/9, H.264/5 etc.

applications:

* Not sure if this was mentioned - good sound recording application (which allows saving in any supported codec).
* Good video recording application which allows saving in any supported codec.

onethreealpha 2013-05-28 23:49

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1347459)
I don't want any app limited because somebody on this site doesn't use it. It didn't work for the N900, it didn't work for the N9. Limiting stuff because you don't use it, that's just you.

With that said, bring the stuff that people actually use and want to connect to easily - Google's stuff (Hangouts, Voice, Drive, Gmail), Microsoft's stuff (Outlook.com, Office 365, Skydrive), Dropbox, Box, BitTorrent Sync (personal cloud), offline Navigation, Skype, Evernote, Penultimate (sorry, but I like my handwriting note taking apps more than trying to type crap out), What'sApp/BBM/Line/Viber.

Personally I don't use nor care for Facebook or LinkedIn, but it lends credibility to the platform. So it'll need to be there in an integrated manner as would the aforesaid requests.

Esoteric requests like Adobe Ideas (or something with sketching + layers) rank high on my list as well.

request for clarification...

I understand you point about limiting apps, however I started this thread to assist Jolla in identifying the sort of things people want to see.
A lot of the services you've mentioned are entirely relevant and would be expected/hoped for as a matter of course.

would you prefer stand alone apps or functionality that integrates these services?

I want to ensure I'm putting this in the right list, as my first reaction would be to list this as functionality... PM if you prefer

youmeego 2013-05-28 23:57

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1347600)
So what stops you and your parents and friends from using open XMPP/Jingle protocol for that? Your end goal is to have a audio/video call, and not to have a "Skype" call, right? You sound like Skype has no alternatives. Let's take this discussion elsewhere if you want, since it's going too off-topic.

how do we use xmpp/jingle?

youmeego 2013-05-29 00:05

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
for the China market

1.Wechat(QQ)
2.PPS.tv
3.Youku
4.weibo

sillieidiot 2013-05-29 00:17

- Rdp client
- forum reading app like tapatalk

shmerl 2013-05-29 00:25

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1347609)
how do we use xmpp/jingle?

See the dedicated thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1347614

kanser 2013-05-29 01:04

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
I have 4 apps in my mind:

-swift Key Flow
-taking notes by writing on the screen (I dont have in my mind how this is called in english)
-a translator where you take a photo and the app analyses which language that is and translates it for you.
-Cas (computer algebra system), maybe from texas instruments (they have one for windows)

SHARP66 2013-05-29 02:08

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
everything in PYTHON in every phone.
just *.py

Scorpius 2013-05-29 02:11

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
To the OpenSource freaks:

If you think Jolla's phone will be 100% open and not include any closed/propietary software you're WRONG because it WILL FAIL. Jolla knows it. Jolla saw the N900 fail. Jolla saw the N9 fail. Jolla knows if they want the phone to succeed, they need to be appealing to the masses, and that means including SEVERAL closed source applications like Skype, WhatsApp, Vibe, Line, etc.

Stop fighting it, be real. They ARE a MUST.

youmeego 2013-05-29 02:21

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1347621)
To the OpenSource freaks:

If you think Jolla's phone will be 100% open and not include any closed/propietary software you're WRONG because it WILL FAIL. Jolla knows it. Jolla saw the N900 fail. Jolla saw the N9 fail. Jolla knows if they want the phone to succeed, they need to be appealing to the masses, and that means including SEVERAL closed source applications like Skype, WhatsApp, Vibe, Line, etc.

Stop fighting it, be real. They ARE a MUST.

native skype and whatsapp should be made available on jolla phone first launch day, hope they work with skype and whatsapp

onethreealpha 2013-05-29 02:25

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1347621)
To the OpenSource freaks:

If you think Jolla's phone will be 100% open and not include any closed/propietary software you're WRONG because it WILL FAIL. Jolla knows it. Jolla saw the N900 fail. Jolla saw the N9 fail. Jolla knows if they want the phone to succeed, they need to be appealing to the masses, and that means including SEVERAL closed source applications like Skype, WhatsApp, Vibe, Line, etc.

Stop fighting it, be real. They ARE a MUST.

There is also a need to recognise that any number (or all) of the most popular commercial applications to support the above won't necessarily (if at all) be available at launch.

anyway, back on topic..... your suggestion was?


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