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TheoX 2013-07-02 18:17

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1356287)
Look where you're wrong; first of all, you said it isn't smooth, and not smooth=laggy. And then you denied it. Other than that, you said it has the worst browser. But in fact, the browser was never shown :rolleyes: How can you judge by just looking at the icon? And please show me the email client if you've seen it..

Nahh, here as I said early, Lumiaman is one crazy fanboy. He just have a look @ some pictures and he already knows the back-end programming and how it will run. In N900 the stock browser was epic. It loads the FULL web page, not a mobile version. If you want to get to the mobile page without changing settings you just download opera. With both browsers the internet experience was fine (except for some outdated plugins like flash, JS, etc.).

P.S. Just to leave a final conclusion. Lumiaman is just a stupid kid praising maybe his new lumia phone, and I am here to comment on the success rate of the new Jolla project on the current market. I have nothing against linux (I love it), I have nothing against Jolla (as a newborn company), I was just commenting that a newborn company, that is going to work with a no-name chinese company for hardware isn't going to be a success on the current market. People started looking just for NAMES, because the no-name companies started building bad cheap stuff and customers started running away from them. Let's say there is no Nokia and no Jolla (so no fanboyism when answering this question). What would you buy a SONY device or a Syng-YianMio Electronics device. What would you trust to buy? Knowing that both have the same OS (this is to exclude the OS fanboys)

Answer me this, and then you will see my point of vew!

Artyom 2013-07-02 18:24

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1356280)
Sorry to tell you, but WP8 is the best touchscreen experience on Nokia phones.

please tell me more about how wp is better and better and symbian/maemo/meego fails.
http://i.imgflip.com/1bim.jpg

you just repeat yourself like the other paid wp advocates in other forums. it's the same bull**** over and over...

TheoX 2013-07-02 18:28

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artyom (Post 1356293)
please tell me more about how wp is better and better and symbian/maemo/meego fails.

you just repeat yourself like the other paid wp advocates in other forums. it's the same bull**** over and over...

Leave him alone, he is just... SPECIAL :p. Okay about this, WP provides a good touch experience because the OS GUI is very simple, you swipe down to see the desktop and left for the drawer. That's a good and simple experience. On android you have the launcher with different screens with a drawer and much more (maybe this is what's bothering him?:confused:)

And you can't compare the 2009 resistive touchscreen experience with the 2013 capacitive touchscreen experience. If you do that, you must be ******ed and not think straight!

AMD 2013-07-02 18:43

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356291)
...
Answer me this, and then you will see my point of vew!

The Sony.. Never heard of the other one

AMD 2013-07-02 18:44

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1356280)
Sorry to tell you, but WP8 is the best touchscreen experience on Nokia phones. N9 and N8 were fail, N900 not a touchscreen in terms of usability. The current lumias are so much more functional than N9 or other N devices

You're hilarious btw.

TheoX 2013-07-02 18:49

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1356303)
You're hilarious btw.

+1. How can you say that? HOW. When the N900 touch is fluid and responsive.

Quote:

The Sony.. Never heard of the other one
The other one was an invented name, just to show you my point. Why are you going to buy this Jolla, since you have no idea where the hardware is produced? My idea would be that Jolla should join XDA forums and stard to build cutom Jolla for EXISTENT DEVICES first.

After people test it, and maybe like it or dislike it, they can have a chance to get a contract with Samsung, maybe HTC, maybe Motorola, or maybe WITH NOKIA again!

What they are doing is VERY BAD MARKETING! Launch a new unknown product, and expect that masses are going to buy them!

-"Look a Jolla phone!"
-"What is that, no, I'm going to stick with the big brands"

This would be a dialogue if they see a Jolla without tesing.

-"Look a Jolla phone"
-"Yeah I had that OS on my Samsung device, and I heard this is a more open than my Samsung, I will get this soon!"

And this will be a dialogue between 2 persons that really tested the OS, and that are waiting for dedicated hardware for that software!

AMD 2013-07-02 19:06

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Well if you never support this brand, they'll never succeed. All companies start like that, but their work and dedication decide whether they're going to be big or not. Microsoft started off like this, Google started off like this, even Apple.
These people were ex Nokia developers, they went away and opened their own company. If they believe they can do it, then we'll support them to reach their dream. Every person deserves to follow his dream, right? We're just trying to make it happen not more, because we believe that there is a hidden talent in these guys that Elop has never realized or gave them the chance to show it. But we will, we will support them until they reach the high level, unless they decide to go the wrong way like Elop did. Do you see anything wrong in this now?

TheoX 2013-07-02 19:21

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1356315)
Well if you never support this brand, they'll never succeed. All companies start like that, but their work and dedication decide whether they're going to be big or not. Microsoft started off like this, Google started off like this, even Apple.
These people were ex Nokia developers, they went away and opened their own company. If they believe they can do it, then we'll support them to reach their dream. Every person deserves to follow his dream, right? We're just trying to make it happen not more, because we believe that there is a hidden talent in these guys that Elop has never realized or gave them the chance to show it. But we will, we will support them until they reach the high level, unless they decide to go the wrong way like Elop did. Do you see anything wrong in this now?

Yes, I see somthing wrong. They started this long ago so TIME itself and product quality make their name rise up. For me, if that company have a good history, I was pleased with every device but the last one FAILS me, I loose ALL MY TRUST in that company.

Think of this, jolla is collaborating with a no-name company for the hardware, if that hardware is bad who is going down, the hardware company or the Jolla company?

Microsoft until 2012 NEVER had a device built for their software, Windows collaborated with HTC, SAMSUNG, and SONY ERICSSON.

Google still don't have any proprietary device.

Apple have something unique (and BlackBerry), they have both, the OS and a locked device.

So the best marketing is Google's and Microsoft's because: Don't blame our software, blame the hardware, that is bad!

AMD 2013-07-02 19:40

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
You do realize that this phone is still a prototype and not final, right? There are a lot of changes that will be made later to this phone according to the community's feedback to Jolla. Don't judge the hardware now, there might be changes.

TheoX 2013-07-02 20:23

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1356329)
You do realize that this phone is still a prototype and not final, right? There are a lot of changes that will be made later to this phone according to the community's feedback to Jolla. Don't judge the hardware now, there might be changes.

I am, because not Jolla is building the hardware, but a no-name chinese factory. I saw some specs, and after seeing some fake iphones, I lol'd a bit and then I felt sorry for Jolla.

Lumiaman 2013-07-02 21:27

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Its fun watching two intellectual titans duke it out.

TheoX 2013-07-02 21:54

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1356368)
Its fun watching two intellectual titans duke it out.

He he he, best reply ever! <3

AMD 2013-07-02 22:05

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Theo, one time you stand beside me against Lumiaman, and another you both stand against me? :p Hey guys, back me up here!

TheoX 2013-07-02 22:14

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1356373)
Theo, one time you stand beside me against Lumiaman, and another you both stand against me? :p Hey guys, back me up here!

Am I am not against anyone or with anyone. It's the internet, dude...

P.S. My last reply was very ironic if you didn't get that yet! :)

AMD 2013-07-02 22:18

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356374)
Am I am not against anyone or with anyone. It's the internet, dude...

P.S. My last reply was very ironic if you didn't get that yet! :)

Well today morning I will read it again :p Cause right now my brain is f*cked up :p After that I will try to solve the riddle :p

TheoX 2013-07-03 00:26

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
To give another point of view. Today 4Chan added again the paid banner and guess what, just logged in and a new banner appeared. Guess from who... From Apple...

Went to see some new stuff on WP Store, got on the index page and saw ads like this: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us

With no ads your product is dead! NOT EVEN HERE on your forum you can't see any ads about Jolla and their website is a complete crap.

And going back to my first statement, won't Jolla be an epic fail of the 2014?

Ohh yeah, and Microsoft have real contests, unlike the ones posted here: http://blogs.windows.com/windows_pho...einvented.aspx (I choose this specific contest, just because I entered in one here with my 8s camera).

The only problem I am having with this device yet is the memory problem, only 4GB of memory and 2.7gb occupied by the Windows (and 1GB extra caches and stuff). So NO MEMORY for too many apps, but I got everything I need and I am just over the low memory limit (80-60MB), and music and pics on my 16GB class 10 SD Card :) But I willing to give this problem another chance, since the update for the facebook is just... WOW perfect!

So sometimes soon we will get an update that will allow us to get our content on the SD cards, and then this will be PERFECT!

Artyom 2013-07-03 03:10

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356385)
To give another point of view. Today 4Chan added again the paid banner and guess what, just logged in and a new banner appeared. Guess from who... From Apple...

Went to see some new stuff on WP Store, got on the index page and saw ads like this: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us

Wow. İt looks like one of nokia's sites. No htc no samsung... Guess they all gave up on wp. Now i'm going to wonder why. :rolleyes:

TheoX 2013-07-03 04:10

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artyom (Post 1356396)
Wow. İt looks like one of nokia's sites. No htc no samsung... Guess they all gave up on wp. Now i'm going to wonder why. :rolleyes:

They didn't, until now, HTC was the primary Windows Mobile device producer. After Windows Phone 7 was launched Lumia got the contracts. And now the best device for Windows Phone is Lumia. They still have contracts with: HTC, Samsung, LG and Huawei.

You wonder wrong. WP is one hell of a OS, but still too new, not enough devs yet, not enough user feedbacks, not fully developed yet. Android won the market, and that's why other companies build JUST Android devices.

gerbick 2013-07-03 04:12

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356385)
And going back to my first statement, won't Jolla be an epic fail of the 2014?

Too early to call it. So far, it might be BlackBerry gunning for that title.

Artyom 2013-07-03 09:25

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356400)
They didn't, until now, HTC was the primary Windows Mobile device producer. After Windows Phone 7 was launched Lumia got the contracts. And now the best device for Windows Phone is Lumia. They still have contracts with: HTC, Samsung, LG and Huawei.

You wonder wrong. WP is one hell of a OS, but still too new, not enough devs yet, not enough user feedbacks, not fully developed yet. Android won the market, and that's why other companies build JUST Android devices.

nope they all stopped making wp devices except for htc and nokia. and they probably won't produce anymore. wp is not one hell of an os. there is nothing special and interesting.
accept it or leave it, people simply don't want ms to get into the smartphone business. they had enough of it on pc. spending millions and millions on ad campaigns didn't work sorry.

calling people fanboy in the maemo forum just because they use n900/n9/n950's? LOL thats hilarious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356385)
And going back to my first statement, won't Jolla be an epic fail of the 2014?

yeah they probably will fail but it won't come close to the failure of microsoft's smartphone business.

aaand we are coming to the same outcome. repeating the same ****. better and better with non explanation included.

so the conclusion of this topic is
if you don't use android ios or wp you are a filthy diehard fanboy living in an ivory tower. no matter what, they are better because they are aggresively advertised. and the things that are advertised is always good. blame the os's when you broke a 4 year old device.

Akkumaru 2013-07-03 10:42

i love this thread :D

Lumiaman 2013-07-03 12:00

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Well, u got to be a blind fanboy to support Jolla, when everyone knows that these are the same people that can't code a competitive device. N9 was worse than N900 and they had couple of years to get it straight. You must be a blind fanboy to support them. Given their record, they will again release a beta OS. All you see on these videos is nice gesture based OS, but where are the small important things: flawless typing, adjustable fonts, flawless emails, SMS threads that don't mix, smooth interface, smooth transitions, beautiful and responsive browser. Jolla will be a fail. They don't have a winning pedigree.

Rauha 2013-07-03 12:07

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Jolla being a failure would hardly be epic. Nothing of their size or stature is.

More like the sound of a little bug getting squashed.

switch-hitter 2013-07-03 12:57

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1356479)
flawless typing, adjustable fonts, flawless emails, SMS threads that don't mix, smooth interface, smooth transitions, beautiful and responsive browser.

You're so obsessed with things being 'smooth' I suspect you Veet your nuts.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1356479)
Jolla will be a fail. They don't have a winning pedigree.

Microsoft have a well deserved world wide reputation for insecure, unstable, virus-hosting crapware. Even a member of NOKIA's own board made his fortune trying to fill the gaping security holes in their hopelessly defective software.

Witness NOKIA's catastrophic collapse since replacing Jolla's team with Microsoft's. Everyone knows Microsoft's pedigree, that's why hardly anybody wants a Windows Phone.

I still haven't seen one in the wild.

Rauha 2013-07-03 13:17

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
This Samsung model will win the mobile war.

http://www.theonion.com/video/new-we...ur-dick,33017/

TheoX 2013-07-03 14:28

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artyom (Post 1356448)
nope they all stopped making wp devices except for htc and nokia. and they probably won't produce anymore. wp is not one hell of an os. there is nothing special and interesting.
accept it or leave it, people simply don't want ms to get into the smartphone business. they had enough of it on pc. spending millions and millions on ad campaigns didn't work sorry.

calling people fanboy in the maemo forum just because they use n900/n9/n950's? LOL thats hilarious.



yeah they probably will fail but it won't come close to the failure of microsoft's smartphone business.

aaand we are coming to the same outcome. repeating the same ****. better and better with non explanation included.

so the conclusion of this topic is
if you don't use android ios or wp you are a filthy diehard fanboy living in an ivory tower. no matter what, they are better because they are aggresively advertised. and the things that are advertised is always good. blame the os's when you broke a 4 year old device.

Just... just get out. Get a deep breath and learn to read again! Dammit, I never seen a guy so... soooo.... ... ... ... like you!

Artyom 2013-07-04 06:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356515)
Just... just get out. Get a deep breath and learn to read again! Dammit, I never seen a guy so... soooo.... ... ... ... like you!

You mad?
I read the whole thing and i summarized it for you. Whats wrong with that?

TheoX 2013-07-04 13:49

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artyom (Post 1356686)
You mad?
I read the whole thing and i summarized it for you. Whats wrong with that?

Took you 1 whole day to give this "semi-******ed troll" answer. Get out!

Artyom 2013-07-04 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356768)
Took you 1 whole day to give this "semi-******ed troll" answer. Get out!

Haha lol nice, very nice. Why should i answer your nonsense immediately? Even the administration knows it's all nonsense and put the thread here.

Lumiaman 2013-07-04 16:09

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artyom (Post 1356803)
Haha lol nice, very nice. Why should i answer your nonsense immediately? Even the administration knows it's all nonsense and put the thread here.

Fartyom is another evolutionary missing link. Anthropologists are hunting him down.

TheoX 2013-07-04 17:11

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1356808)
Fartyom is another evolutionary missing link. Anthropologists are hunting him down.

Haha, good one! :D

Quote:

Fartyom
You have the thinking of a 12 year old. The administration moved this thread over here, because 'tarded people like you started shouting offtopic stuff on that thread which was about if you are going to buy the Jolla Phone or not and why, so they moved this to a separate thread, so I can argue with each and everyone of you just for fun. Some of you have some valid points, but you are just plain... I don't know how to write it down without getting banned. I saw your contributions around this forum and please... GET OUT!

Quote:

Why should i answer your nonsense immediately?
Wow you just did, man, you are lame...

mikecomputing 2013-07-04 20:29

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
I am more and more sure Jolla will use Qt5 instead of Qt4.8.

Reason, I just took a look in http://github.com/nemomobile some Qt5 related stuff done by Jolla employed...

I really hope they soon release a new SDK! Its about time :P


To all negative m-r0ns on TMO:

You FAIL :D

Jolla and Qt(Quick) ROCKS The community will get bigger and we fight you :cool:

QtQuick controls(widgets) now also on desktop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_F6Kpjd-Q

Lumiaman 2013-07-04 20:41

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
It will be interesting to see what happens when iphone releases colorful copycats with lower prices......but still not low enough. They are running into $300s.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/analyst-thi...color-options/

AMD 2013-07-04 21:00

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
OMG you have got to be kidding me now, Arguing thread? Seriously? Guys.. there is no need at all to argue and fight just because of this, in your shoes I would definitely leave this all behind. Don't bring headaches to yourselves because of some company-related issues..

TheoX 2013-07-04 21:21

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1356910)
OMG you have got to be kidding me now, Arguing thread? Seriously? Guys.. there is no need at all to argue and fight just because of this, in your shoes I would definitely leave this all behind. Don't bring headaches to yourselves because of some company-related issues..

Arguing can most of the times be very productive. You will get it, I learned very much from this thread, but the info collected will be strictly for myself.

Quote:

To all negative m-r0ns on TMO:

You FAIL

Jolla and Qt(Quick) ROCKS The community will get bigger and we fight you

QtQuick controls(widgets) now also on desktop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_F6Kpjd-Q
Thank you for these sweet lols. Didn't you grow up to get over fairy tales? You say that Jolla will not use QT 4.8, you hope that it will use QT 5, and you send me a demo of the QT 5.1? Make up your mind already.

Stop dreaming, a new generation of smart devices like Google Glass is going to launch and you still wait a device that will cover 2009-current date.

Man I wish I could be a dreamer like you. You sure you're a programmer or a poet (those dream too much)?

mikecomputing 2013-07-04 22:46

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
This is for all trolls at TMO:

start make apps for nemomobile and sailfish or GTFO :cool:

TheoX 2013-07-05 00:13

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1356934)
This is for all trolls at TMO:

start make apps for nemomobile and sailfish or GTFO :cool:

Your replies are really smart. Another 12 yo detected.

ranbaxy 2013-07-05 05:39

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
Who's changing the thread title? LOL :D

Artyom 2013-07-05 06:28

Re: Fanboy...ish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoX (Post 1356823)
You have the thinking of a 12 year old. The administration moved this thread over here, because 'tarded people like you started shouting offtopic stuff on that thread which was about if you are going to buy the Jolla Phone or not and why, so they moved this to a separate thread, so I can argue with each and everyone of you just for fun. Some of you have some valid points, but you are just plain... I don't know how to write it down without getting banned. I saw your contributions around this forum and please... GET OUT!

nice, go on make it even personal. when you fail to respond and explain whats asked for you, the best exit is insulting people niceee...

nope on the contrary you called everyone a fanboy blame os's just because your two n900's were broken. broke your toys and blame it on the other kids? how old is that? and then administration moved all the unrelated messages. the ones you called etards made a mistake and answered your cr*p. now no one even cares.
actually i wasn't even trying to make a point. others already do/did that for me. that's why i mostly read in this forum. this goddamn thread was an exception for me.
and oh! how do you know what contributions i made in this forum? do i have to develop or donate everyone i see to contribute? how many of the members do that here?

AMD 2013-07-05 14:18

Re: Arguing thread! Arguing about Jolla, OS's and other useless stuff! JOIN NOW!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1356934)
This is for all trolls at TMO:

start make apps for nemomobile and sailfish or GTFO :cool:

Don't put pressure on me -.- Still learning languages :/ So far done with HTML, CSS & JavaScript :p


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