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w00t	2013-11-27 20:14

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1389726)

Does the main UI support landscape like hacked Harmattan does?

Not at present. Landscape in general is a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

Thoke

2013-11-27 20:15

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1389728)

Harmattan didn't require any such nonsense. Any changes you make you don't have to provide back if you don't redistribute them. And what are you redistributing when hacking your own phone? Storing changes you make? This is severe privacy violation.

Yes, that was just my uneducated guess... Don't know what's the real case.

Hariainm

2013-11-27 20:15

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1389724)

I think it has to do something with EULA, it's said there you grant Jolla all the rights to use and/or redistribute all the changes you've made to the phone's open source components. Maybe the developer account stores the changes you've made? I don't know, just my guess.

Shitty move from Jolla. But there's a toggle to enable developer mode? Term is there but hidden or not? It has to be installed like N9? What about file manager, comes with one?

shmerl

2013-11-27 20:18

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

OVK: For friendly feedback channel use Diaspora: https://joindiaspora.com/u/jolla

w00t	2013-11-27 20:21

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by OVK (Post 1389733)

If this is their feedback channel... Well, probably better than Twitter but...

I'm sure that I - like everyone else - is getting as much information as they can from wherever they can right now. This is something big to us.

Well, on the other hand, I'm one of the few not out celebrating in Helsinki... Pah. :)

w00t	2013-11-27 20:22

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1389708)

WTF do you mean with a developer account is required?

I don't know why this is off the top of my head. I'll try find out tomorrow.

shmerl

2013-11-27 20:22

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1389738)

I'm sure that I - like everyone else - is getting as much information as they can from wherever they can right now. This is something big to us.

w00t, I think it's a prime time for Jolla to launch an official community infrastructure (with forums and etc.). There was a post about it, but so far nothing came out. So it's past due!

RX-51

2013-11-27 20:23

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I've spotted the developer mode in the video posted before https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=xdBb_TnjZy0 time to calm down ;)
[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/20j02tv.jpg[/IMG]

kinggo

2013-11-27 20:28

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1389693)

Anything in particular standing out?

Off topic, kinda, but.....
I'll rather ask here first. Do you have any plans for further localizations? Not that I need any other language, but if you have plans to extend this for smaller markets like this dump I live in, I'm willing to help. I'll never submitt any app but I could help with this.

mariusmssj

2013-11-27 20:35

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tortoisedoc

2013-11-27 20:46

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1389720)

Perkele...:(

But its working elsewhere?

Yes it seems to be working;

caa	2013-11-27 20:47

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1389730)

Ah, right :). I'll pass the feedback on.

Can you also pass on the message that many of us want MMS please?

https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/405775411511975936

Thanks.

praveenchand

2013-11-27 20:47

What is exclusive TOH? Please someone reveal it...

cvp	2013-11-27 20:49

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by praveenchand (Post 1389754)

What is exclusive TOH? Please someone reveal it...

page 5 , last Picture.... a red/orange cover ;) thats it

diogotrc

2013-11-27 20:54

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Test a Android 3D game please!
And also, benchmark app.

Dave999

2013-11-27 20:54

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A video must be on YouTube soon. Show the user experience and unboxing. This is getting no where.

tommo

2013-11-27 20:55

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1389755)

page 5 , last Picture.... a red/orange cover ;) thats it

Must be a patent infringement to call it a battery cover:p

szopin

2013-11-27 20:55

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1389750)

Pictures from Janne Edelman @JanneEdelman

[...]

Love the peekabo by 1020 inm the third photo. Old age catching a glimpse of new one. Also uber orange.. Though my bet is on oversaturation by 1020

cvp	2013-11-27 20:55

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1389760)

Must be a patent infringement to call it a battery cover:p

lol jap :D

Can anyone test the XMPP Service ? Can we transfer Pictures/Videos/Media ?
i have a XMPP Server, pls contact me over PM to create a account to test it :)

att	2013-11-27 20:56

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1389708)

WTF do you mean with a developer account is required?

My Jolla's settings went haywire. I had to reset the device back to factory condition and restart from the beginning. After that I was able to enable developer mode and without developer account.

Rauha

2013-11-27 20:57

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaGWEWrCcAAUDwW.png]

Extremely minor nitpick, but since we're giving feedback.

Not sure if the that screen needs both the danish Velkommen! and the norweigian Velkommen!, since they are spelled 100% identically. Altough, it could work as nordic language puzzle for non-nordic users.

OVK	2013-11-27 21:00

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1389738)

I'm sure that I - like everyone else - is getting as much information as they can from wherever they can right now.

This is excellent and highly apreciated. Anyway, my feedback to Jolla is:
Announce what is the preferred/official feedback channel. At the same time keep on listening these unofficial channels.

My experience is that you need these both types of feedback if you want to collect any useful information.

xanderx

2013-11-27 21:00

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1389760)

Must be a patent infringement to call it a battery cover:p

That is nice statement!

att	2013-11-27 21:07

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1389680)

Show us the terminal! type uname -a & cat /proc/cpuinfo! What are the repos avaliable by default on zypper?

cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v71)
processor : 0
BogoMIPS : 13.53

processor : 1
BogoMIPS : 13.53

Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4
CPU implementer : 0x51
CPU architecture : 7
CPU variant : 0x1
CPU part : 0x04d
CPU revision : 4

Hardware : QCT MSM8930 CDP
Revision : 300000
Serial : 0000000000000000

uname -a
Linux localhost 3.4.0.20131115.2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 18 03:00:49 UTC 2013 armv71 armv71 armv71 GNU/Linux

I didn't cut&paste these so hopefully there isn't any errors.

w00t	2013-11-27 21:08

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1389764)

Yeah, but try telling a Danish person that they're really writing Norwegian and they'll probably glare at you. :-p

Rauha

2013-11-27 21:11

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

In my experience its more productive to tell danes that they really ought to try learn to speak swedish properly.

Fuzzillogic

2013-11-27 21:14

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by xanderx (Post 1389690)

Kollin, why don't you just stick with androphone and google? Who needs google on jPhone?

Because currently many apps are Android (and other crap) only. Not being able to install the play store isn't a real problem per se, but simply trying to get APK's will get really annoying really fast. I see myself battling with customer services trying to get a direct link to a APK, hitting brick walls of "What do you mean? Simply download it from the play store"-idiocy again and again.

I guess Jolla users will get first hand experience just how much grip Google has on the Android ecosystem...

att	2013-11-27 21:15

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Yandex registeration didn't work with mobile phone number recovery. It complained wrong country. I had to use secret question mode.

I don't like the touch keyboard on the Yandex.Store. Maybe it is the default keyboard for Android apps but I hope not.

tortoisedoc

2013-11-27 21:15

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1389781)

One reason more to develop for Sailfish!

szopin

2013-11-27 21:24

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1389781)

Expect first devel repo only app that works with play store in the upcoming days(hours?), which could be problematic as all Jolla users will enable devel :/ and then google will start coming up with ****blocks... Will be interesting for sure

szopin

2013-11-27 21:26

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by att (Post 1389771)

Wiki entry for MSM8930 has up to 1.2 GHz, is it oc by default/

att	2013-11-27 21:28

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by praveenchand (Post 1389754)

What is exclusive TOH? Please someone reveal it...

It is the Poppy Red (Orange). It has printing "THE FIRST ONE" and jolla logo carved on it. I don't know if it has any techical special features. It has white area on the other side of it (inside). I think there probably is chip inside it.

There was Thank You video on the device and hand written Thank You card with the phone.

NokiaFanatic

2013-11-27 21:36

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Reading all this makes me really want my device to turn up. Please guys, keep the updates coming!

Am particularily interest to see how good e-mail is. Can someone add their gmail account to the phone, send a mail to that account and see how long it takes for the phone to get an alert? :)

DeeGee

2013-11-27 21:36

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

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Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1389789)

Wiki entry for MSM8930 has up to 1.2 GHz, is it oc by default/

There is multiple variants of 8930... Probably the 8930AA/AB as speculated earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdr...Snapdragon_400

Dave999

2013-11-27 21:39

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Actually I think the wrong guys got the phone? Not a single video? How is that possible.
Jolla still in hiding.

bennypr0fane

2013-11-27 21:41

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1389789)

Wiki entry for MSM8930 has up to 1.2 GHz, is it oc by default/

Isn't the official spec supposed to be 1,4GHz?

aegis

2013-11-27 21:41

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

There's a full dmesg dump at http://people.debian.org/~timo/Jolla/jolla_dmesg if anyone can make more out of it.

via http://losca.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/...nch-party.html

bennypr0fane

2013-11-27 21:43

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

...and:
WHICH. BROWSER. HAVE. WE. GOT???

w00t	2013-11-27 21:45

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(I've a device to hand also if anyone wants any poking around :))

w00t	2013-11-27 21:46

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1389800)

...and:
WHICH. BROWSER. HAVE. WE. GOT???

Sailfish's. Or if you mean which engine - it's Gecko-based.

You can of course also install an Android browser if you feel like it... :)

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