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Faz 2013-12-26 11:32
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faz (Post 1400695)
I keep losing Play Store icon too, although not updates for me as I haven't done any for a while, auto-updates disabled too. I also get frequent pop-ups referencing something like google.apps not responding. Although first few times I lost Play icon I never received these pop-ups.

May be something to do with conflicts between the older files installed to enable Play and Alien Dalvik. Interesting you mention updates though, as I previously did have the My O2 app installed, but now refuses to install, returning "Incompatible update."
Re. "My O2" - I just installed version 5.0 (2013-11-03) from 1Mobile Market. No sure version number from Play, but dated 30 Sep 2013..

Makeclick 2013-12-26 11:36
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vitaminj (Post 1400697)
Yes, it seems to be a bug that the Jolla menu thinks an app is uninstalling when really it's just upgrading. If you reboot your phone, it notices the app is still there and restores the icon.
If you install an Android launcher (Go Launcher has been suggested round here, works ok, but does occasionally pester you to buy extra features) then all the icons are present and correct in there.
Nice to know. I cant reboot (nfc fix ;) ) I installed a Apex launcer, bun now i thinking... the Play update works some poit... can it be that launcher?

@Faz do you use launcher as well?

Faz 2013-12-26 13:02
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1400702)
Nice to know. I cant reboot (nfc fix ;) ) I installed a Apex launcer, bun now i thinking... the Play update works some poit... can it be that launcher?

@Faz do you use launcher as well?
Not tried any laucnhers yet but will try later.

n950 2013-12-27 12:47
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Hi,

How can I replace or edit the build.prop file to have all application enable?

sahib 2014-01-13 16:19
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
hmm, has anyone succeeded to install google play on a vanilla 1.0.2.5 install?

It crashes immediately for me, and there's nothing of value reported through /opt/alien/system/bin/logcat.

I've also (unsuccessfully) tried nuking /data/data/com.android.vending as well as dalvik cache(s) aswell as restarting the dalvik service.
Any ideas?

Silwer 2014-01-13 16:44
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Yes I have.

J4ZZ 2014-01-14 14:21
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sahib (Post 1406127)
hmm, has anyone succeeded to install google play on a vanilla 1.0.2.5 install?

It crashes immediately for me, and there's nothing of value reported through /opt/alien/system/bin/logcat.

I've also (unsuccessfully) tried nuking /data/data/com.android.vending as well as dalvik cache(s) aswell as restarting the dalvik service.
Any ideas?
I had similar problems with Oi Filemanager and a few other apps that began to crash right after start. They worked fine for quite some time though. (Maybe it was because I started to delete unknown, unneeded packages found installed and shown in F-Droid or Aptoide, they probably installed as "needed" services with some apps. I'm still having problems with removing/stopping talk.back service though...) And the next error I got was "Incompatible update" for various apps...

Anyway, to get them fixed I had to completely clean and reinstall alien dalvik (including all installed android apps)

I haven't found any guide here, so here are additional files and folders to look for for a clean uninstall.

1. remove "Android Support" from Jolla Store
2. clean /opt/alien
3. also clean
Code:
/data/system/dropbox
/data/system/registered_services
/data/system/sync
/data/system/usagestats
/data/system/users
/data/app
/data/dalvik-cache
/data/data
/data/user
4.in /data/system/
delete
Code:
packages.list
packages.xml
uiderrors.txt
5. reboot

Install Android Support and Google Play again ;)

Edit:

You can also put the following into a script (I named it cleandalvik.sh for example)
You should be root so run devel-su when in terminal.
Code:
rm -rf /opt/alien/*
rm -rf /data/system/dropbox/*
rm -rf /data/system/registered_services/*
rm -rf /data/system/sync/*
rm -rf /data/system/usagestats/*
rm -rf /data/system/users/*
rm -rf /data/app/*
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /data/data/*
rm -rf /data/user/*
rm -f /data/system/packages.list
rm -f /data/system/packages.xml
rm -f /data/system/uiderrors.txt
copy script to /home/nemo/Downloads
then
Code:
cd /home/nemo/Downloads
chmod a+x cleandalvik.sh
sh cleandalvik.sh

javispedro 2014-01-15 00:39
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Hey, even Google Now works. First time I'm trying this stuff.

Leinad 2014-01-16 00:00
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Instead of using Play Store, i use this: https://lekensteyn.nl/apk-downloader/

works great!

J4ZZ 2014-01-16 13:09
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Isn't it just easier to click on install in Play Store instead of copy/pasting a link into a chrome plugin or webpage for downloading an apk and install it manually?
The apk is stored on the phone anyway so why all this trouble?
Or am I missing something here?

Regards,

J4ZZ

Raim 2014-01-16 13:27
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
With installing Google Play Store you also install some Google services (for automatic updates, location services, etc.). Some might be afraid to do that for privacy reasons.

If you only want some specific app from the Play Store it's easier to get the .apk only from such a service. However, you won't get any update notification this way.

By the way, for open source Android software, F-Droid is a great alternative. The installation process is not as invasive as the Google Play Store, you only need a single .apk from their website.

Leinad 2014-01-16 13:53
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Exactly, in my case, it was just 1 special app, i did not find in any other appstore (aptoide, androidpit, ...) and i don't wanted to install all that google stuff for just one app.

The apkdownloader worked perfect for this purpose.

Maybe i'm old-fashioned, but i want my phone to work without a google-account :)

J4ZZ 2014-01-17 11:41
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Well, ok, that makes sense ;)

caprico 2014-01-17 12:51
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1406853)
Maybe i'm old-fashioned, but i want my phone to work without a google-account :)
You're not old-fashioned, it's rather a modern & reasonable thinking in my opinion. I also don't want to infect my Jolla with that Google stuff - and I don't want to re-open any Google accounts.
So those apk downloaders do a good job for those 2-3 regional apps I need.

But it's certainly great that there's a way to install Google Play on Jolla :)

BonoNL 2014-01-19 21:37
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Just installed it, piece of cake! 25 minutes and it was done.

maximilian1st 2014-02-05 18:55
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
I also installed it and wanted to ask if the hack still worked after the January and yes, it does indeed work with 1.0.3.8 firmware. I had to open the play store 2 times before it would work but now all ok. Only for non paid apps actually but that is exactly what I was looking for.

Schturman 2014-03-23 23:17
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
JAZZ, thanks for your instruction. I have created a little package that do it automatically if someone want: https://openrepos.net/content/schturman/dalvik-cleanup

Milhouse 2014-05-01 00:54
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
If anyone has installed Hangouts on their Jolla they may be seeing the message that updated Google Play Services (GPS) is required, which never updates on Jolla.

The version of GPS installed from My Jolla Blog is 3.1.36 however I've found the APK for 4.3.23 available here (download link at the end of the article) and installing this APK on the Jolla (over the top of the existing package) went without a hitch - Hangouts has stopped complaining and is now working again!

mscion 2014-05-01 13:35
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1406853)
Exactly, in my case, it was just 1 special app, i did not find in any other appstore (aptoide, androidpit, ...) and i don't wanted to install all that google stuff for just one app.

The apkdownloader worked perfect for this purpose.

Maybe i'm old-fashioned, but i want my phone to work without a google-account :)
I'm currently trying to avoid the google stuff as well (although I do use gmail..). For now I copy the apk (when I can find it) on my android phone and send it to my Jolla phone via bluetooth.

Some apps that compliment what is available at jolla store are CNN, weather bug, Vimeo Channel and Image Editor. Can folks chime in and recommend some other android apps that work on Jolla phone and compliment what is available at Jolla store.

Dave999 2014-12-18 20:26
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Whats the latest story about google play installation?

Morpog 2014-12-18 20:35
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
well it just works

Dave999 2014-12-18 20:42
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1452791)
well it just works
Ok, thx. Is IT worth to install if you just want Spotify client and a good browser. I prefer not to use android on jolla but keep them in My android devices...but need a great browser and Spotify when trying to give My jolla Phone another shoot.

HtheB 2014-12-18 20:45
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1452792)
Ok, thx. Is IT worth to install if you just want Spotify client and a good browser. I prefer not to use android on jolla but keep them in My android devices...but need a great browser and Spotify when trying to give My jolla Phone another shoot.
Use Cutespotify :) Much better in my opinion.

Which Android browser do you need?

Dave999 2014-12-18 20:49
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1452793)
Use Cutespotify :) Much better in my opinion.

Which Android browser do you need?
Do you know if cutespot can handle offline. As i remember apis dident support that before.

Dolphine...

HtheB 2014-12-18 21:00
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1452796)
Do you know if cutespot can handle offline. As i remember apis dident support that before.

Dolphine...
Why it wouldn't support offline? Even Maemo has offline support for Spotify.....
In other words: Yes Cutespotify just works offline :)

Dolphin browser: DOWNLOAD
And if you still prefer official Android Spotify client: DOWNLOAD

Enjoy!

Dave999 2014-12-18 21:04
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1452801)
Why it wouldn't support offline? Even Maemo has offline support for Spotify.....
In other words: Yes Cutespotify just works offline :)

Dolphin browser: DOWNLOAD
And if you still prefer official Android Spotify client: DOWNLOAD

Enjoy!
Now. That's one solid post. Thx.

...can I trust IT ;)

HtheB 2014-12-18 21:38
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1452803)
Now. That's one solid post. Thx.

...can I trust IT ;)
Of course! Why not :)
Oh by the way, don't forget to vote for me :p :D

pycage 2014-12-19 08:20
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1452792)
Ok, thx. Is IT worth to install if you just want Spotify client and a good browser. I prefer not to use android on jolla but keep them in My android devices...but need a great browser and Spotify when trying to give My jolla Phone another shoot.
You don't need Google Play spyware for the Spotify Android app or the Firefox browser.
Aptoide should be good enough.

aegis 2014-12-19 08:53
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1423670)
I'm currently trying to avoid the google stuff as well (although I do use gmail..). For now I copy the apk (when I can find it) on my android phone and send it to my Jolla phone via bluetooth.

Some apps that compliment what is available at jolla store are CNN, weather bug, Vimeo Channel and Image Editor. Can folks chime in and recommend some other android apps that work on Jolla phone and compliment what is available at Jolla store.
Have you not tried other stores like Amazon , Aptoide, Fdroid? I generally find what I want on those with no need to use Google Play or to send APKs from another Android device.

Weather Bug is on Amazon for instance.

pycage 2014-12-20 07:23
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
And you can purchase paid content, that is not limited to Google-ified devices only, on the Amazon app store.

pichlo 2014-12-20 08:33
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1452792)
...but need a great browser and Spotify when trying to give My jolla Phone another shoot.
Just out of interest, what's wrong with the Jolla stock browser? It certainly has everything that I need. In the order of preference: tabs, great speed, excellent rendering quality, history, bookmarks, download capability... the only two things I miss are copy&paste (yes, I know about the patch but that requires a patch manager first, ewww!) and view page source.

Dave999 2014-12-20 08:55
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1453081)
Just out of interest, what's wrong with the Jolla stock browser? It certainly has everything that I need. In the order of preference: tabs, great speed, excellent rendering quality, history, bookmarks, download capability... the only two things I miss are copy&paste (yes, I know about the patch but that requires a patch manager first, ewww!) and view page source.
Nothing is really wrong ;) but you can always improve...

- you can easily change so you never reach mobile pages. how to change user agant in jolla?
- you can't get access to URL field without reloading or go to browser task manager.
-browser task manger is not well designed its to messy, bad visibility , not responding fast when you do stuff fast.
- you can only have one browser window open so to load several pages at once you need several browsers...e.g youtube stop playing when you go to another tab in browser so need several
-no gestures in jolla browser
-copy and paste
-click links in jolla browser is a lottery.
-navigation in different forms needs different browsers since they handle it different

will split screen come to phone?

could add some more but these are my top.

I think jolla has improved alot during the year. but the still have far to go :D

Waitee 2014-12-20 09:02
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1453081)
Just out of interest, what's wrong with the Jolla stock browser? It certainly has everything that I need. In the order of preference: tabs, great speed, excellent rendering quality, history, bookmarks, download capability... the only two things I miss are copy&paste (yes, I know about the patch but that requires a patch manager first, ewww!) and view page source.
The browser has an annoying habit of not knowing where you tapped some of the time.
Also some people want the tabs to be always visible on the top or bottom of the screen never mind the smaller screen area for actual content. Many android browsers offer fancy extra features like complex gestures etc.

nthn 2014-12-20 10:54
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1453081)
Just out of interest, what's wrong with the Jolla stock browser? It certainly has everything that I need. In the order of preference: tabs, great speed, excellent rendering quality, history, bookmarks, download capability... the only two things I miss are copy&paste (yes, I know about the patch but that requires a patch manager first, ewww!) and view page source.
It's not possible to install any Firefox add-ons (at least not easily). Of course, this isn't possible on the Webkit browsers like Webcat and Web Pirate either, but it's still something that would greatly benefit Jolla's browser. I hope someone from the community can send a patch upstream to get this working, but it seems there's not much interest in doing so. I do agree it doesn't really need much more, it's just a bare bones browser for mobile phones after all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1453083)
-click links in jolla browser is a lottery.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waitee (Post 1453084)
The browser has an annoying habit of not knowing where you tapped some of the time.
This was fixed in update 9, no more problems now. (Finally, I wonder how that even slipped by QA.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Waitee (Post 1453084)
Also some people want the tabs to be always visible on the top or bottom of the screen never mind the smaller screen area for actual content. Many android browsers offer fancy extra features like complex gestures etc.
Tabs always visible: use another browser, namely this one: https://openrepos.net/content/dax/webpirate

I'd prefer if all these browsers that aren't Firefox would at least use Gecko, but Webkit is apparently what the cool kids use. This is something I actually quite like about Jolla's browser, it's not just yet another Webkit browser.

Watchmaker 2014-12-20 12:10
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nthn (Post 1453089)
I'd prefer if all these browsers that aren't Firefox would at least use Gecko, but Webkit is apparently what the cool kids use. This is something I actually quite like about Jolla's browser, it's not just yet another Webkit browser.
I suppose that has a lot to do with WebKit being included in Qt (it also originated as the web rendering engine of KDE's Konqueror back in the day, sometimes I forget about that :p ).

243kof 2014-12-20 14:20
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1453083)
Nothing is really wrong ;) but you can always improve...

- you can easily change so you never reach mobile pages. how to change user agant in jolla?
- you can't get access to URL field without reloading or go to browser task manager.
-browser task manger is not well designed its to messy, bad visibility , not responding fast when you do stuff fast.
- you can only have one browser window open so to load several pages at once you need several browsers...e.g youtube stop playing when you go to another tab in browser so need several
-no gestures in jolla browser
-copy and paste
-click links in jolla browser is a lottery.
-navigation in different forms needs different browsers since they handle it different

will split screen come to phone?

could add some more but these are my top.

I think jolla has improved alot during the year. but the still have far to go :D
Also, browser history is difficult to use in landscape mode: https://together.jolla.com/question/...andscape-mode/

mscion 2014-12-20 15:04
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1452796)
Do you know if cutespot can handle offline. As i remember apis dident support that before.

Dolphine...
Does Jetpack option work well? Also do you use adblock for dolphin?
Thanks!

Dave999 2014-12-20 16:54
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1453109)
Does Jetpack option work well? Also do you use adblock for dolphin?
Thanks!
I don't know. I don't need it. My phones are always fastest of the fastest and I don't visit pages with ads :D You have to try it and tell me, sorry ;)

pichlo 2014-12-20 19:19
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nthn (Post 1453089)
This [browser tap lottery] was fixed in update 9, no more problems now.
So I have been told. It did happen to me occasionally in U9 too, although about 100x less frequently than in U8. And guess what? It just happened to me now, in U10 :) I left the edit box where you type your post on TMO and when I tapped back in the box to continue typing, one of the buttons above it got pressed. Quite reprodicly. I think I triggered it by screen rotation but I am not 100% sure.

aegis 2014-12-21 00:14
Re: Jolla Phone and Google Play Store
 
Incidentally, I had a play with WeatherBug from the Amazon store. It uses Google Maps still so it's not 100% working. I would have thought Amazon would have blocked apps that used Google Play Services in their store.


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