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Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1396660)

1) Taking too long to come out with Sailfish when the world has more or less consolidated into two major platforms - ios and Android.

Well that was already the way before the company was formed so impossible to mend that. What can be done, is of course just what has been created; a better alternative to those.

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Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1396660)

2) Putting in Android compatibility instead of Harmattan apps compatibility. Android compatibility stunts the development of native apps while Harmattan compatibility would be an upgrade path for millions of N9 users plus ensured a pool of quality apps at launch.

Harmattan compability is just a few quick fixes and recompile. Shouls be nothing to make noise about.

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Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1396660)

3) Doing nothing to promote the development of native apps - no developer units, no developer programs, no contests, no resources and leaving the SDK in an alpha state until the phone was about to launch. Result - almost no native apps at launch.

4) Refusing to prioritize the shipping of early units to developers begging for them in order to test and release native apps. Strictly going on a first ordered first served basis resulted in early units being flogged off on e-bay and auction houses for insane prices.

Wot? There's the SDK with pretty neat emulator for the device. And it's possible to run the created applications on Sailfish/N9...

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Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1396660)

6) Not setting up a bug tracker and saying they have no time to read bugs so don't send them any bug reports.

You are misquoting here now, shame on you :(
What was said that there's no possibility of setting up an external bug tracker, due to no resources in processing the reports and correlating that with internal bug tracker. And I do believe that's a real case.
The comment in "no time to read/dont send" was related to somebody's proposition that community would set up it's own tracker and hope that Jolla would read it and act on it. Of course there's no obligation for them to do anything like that, and cannot spare resources to it.
In reality they have stated that they WANT you to send bug reports to their service desk.

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Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1396660)

7) Wasting their 5 mins of fame and free publicity by launching a buggy beta os unfit for general users. Jolla may improve its os later but will the world know about it?

It's beta but not that buggy, no buggier than other OS'es when they first came out, somewhat lessbuggier than other are even now :D

Do these critics have really experiencied using Sailfish on Jolla smartphone (or at least on Nokia N9 with Sailfish port) ?

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Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1396812)

Do these critics have really experiencied using Sailfish on Jolla smartphone (or at least on Nokia N9 with Sailfish port) ?

I remember seeing some idiots on The Verge instantly bashing it, and none of them have ever used it in there life.

I'd buy a cheap WP phone(Like Nokia 520 or something) and wait for Jolla. I remember how happy I was to return to N9 so when you'll finally put your hands on your Jolla it will be even better.

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1396797)

Harmattan compability is just a few quick fixes and recompile. Shouls be nothing to make noise about.

It would be actually nice to see some Harmattan stuff ported. I am a bit disappointed by the native applications support at the moment. I knew that there would not be much but it seems that there is virtually none. I remember that one year ago (I think it was during Slush) when Jolla guys shared stage with some Rovio people they were asked "will it run Angry Birds?" and the answer was "Angry Birds already runs on MeeGo". And also some of the Jolla guys mentioned on some interview that they were contacting commercial devs and discussing about porting stuff and the message from companies was that "Oh, we already have that for MeeGo".

OK, nothing was ever promised but I definately had higher hopes for the native (and even commercial) software support.

nexus 5 with sailfish please. :)

which is to say:
quad core
high speed OpenGl ES 3.0
2GB / 32GB
Wifi AC / BT 4.0
slim bezel 5" FHD

nothing revolutionary, just current.

There is no such thing as a jPhone. It's Jolla or Jolla phone if you want but jPhone? That doesn't exist.

I'm expecting much more mature product(OS and Hardware) and also Improved SDK(and API's) but also jolla as an manufacturer. I'm pretty sure it won't be officially named jPhone ll.

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Originally Posted by OVK (Post 1397086)

Do you remember the Roller-coaster Demo game pre-release of n900? I think it was released about two years later. It's all sales talk. Assume it won't be there until you can put your hands on it.

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Originally Posted by MSameer (Post 1397237)

There is no such thing as a jPhone. It's Jolla or Jolla phone if you want but jPhone? That doesn't exist.

I think it's up to the owner of the phone to decide that. Don't you agree?

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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1397239)

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Originally Posted by MSameer (Post 1397237)

There is no such thing as a jPhone. It's Jolla or Jolla phone if you want but jPhone? That doesn't exist.

I think it's up to the owner of the phone to decide that. Don't you agree?

Not really.
I find it pretty ugly and offensive to call a device that stands proud as its own as something of a parody of an inferior product by another company. It is not even a good joke.

It is downright rude, and I would like you to stop doing that.

I still think a Nexus 5 with SailfishOS is a much better all-round device.
Especially if Jolla could make it dualboot.

Just so much potential wasted by "software experts" focusing on the hardware.

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1397397)

Can't really tell if you are serious or not. But I won't argue a ridicules point like this more in detail. I'm not calling it jPhone. Never have. But in the end of the day I might call it something else and the name is my own. I hope you don't get to offended for if you are I'm truly sorry.

Chuck Norris has ended the discussion! End of topic! He is right and never defy him! :D

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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1397734)

Sir Norris, a big fan of yours :)
Maybe I was only half serious but the point stands. Anyone is free to call their device anything at all in their own privacy, but I would like to see some decency when presenting oneself in public.

Decency according to whom?

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1398041)

Decency according to whom?

That is a valid question.

My goal is not to offend anyone. My N9 is called the Niner and no one has been offended as far as I know. Just look at the guys at Volkswagen who built a car with another name. Now everyone call it beetle.

I think jolla will release next device under the jPhone ll banner or a similar name. Maybe they can have a naming competition.

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1403214)

Already ahead of you- a lot of people call the Jolla the "YOLO"

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Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1403221)

Already ahead of you- a lot of people call the Jolla the "YOLO"

Well, that's offending. Almost criminal. It can be the street name in the hood.

YO... LO ll

My jPhone is on its way!

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Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1403419)

My jPhone is on its way!

I'm very glad to hear that.

I think jolla will abandon this other side for jPhone ll...

Reason:

while it's afew pretty cool other halfs projekt out there avrage consumers don't really care(ready to pay) for any cool home grown other side.

you're my favorite troll on tmo Dave :D , but starting threads after you're washing your hands or from what are you doing , come-on , you can be a better troll than this:rolleyes::D

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Originally Posted by Alecsandru (Post 1422098)

you're my favorite troll on tmo Dave :D , but starting threads after you're washing your hands or from what are you doing , come-on , you can be a better troll than this:rolleyes::D

Not sure what you are saying. Do you mean that I'm only washing my hands once a month?

What do you mean your favourite troll ?!?!?!
He's the only troll in TMO, everyone else has left to join XDA or worse Windows Phone Central (yes, those twaats).

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Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1422106)

What do you mean your favourite troll ?!?!?!
He's the only troll in TMO, everyone else has left to join XDA or worse Windows Phone Central (yes, those twaats).

No. It's you and me...