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marxian

2014-08-03 00:09

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sohil876 (Post 1434661)

I agree on same ui standards but wont it be better to avoid implementing microb ui 'mistakes' into qml browser? Like having add bookmark icon on toolbar is pointless since its already on context menu (and its better there) so a forward page (which is wierdly enough not even present in microb) will be of more use there, also bookmarks can be on menu and reload page can take its place. The enter address field's area (and its arrow area) and toolbar are taking some unneccessary space imho like microb (see attached image), enter address field should be like its on opera mini (on the slim terms i mean) the down arrow icon can be a bit smaller too (like the reload icon on opera mini perhaps?), itll help slimming down toolbar (would be great if it could be almost as slimmer as opera mini's bottom bar) which will look better and maybe even create some space for webpages and maybe even for a extra icon (which can be menu?). On starting the browser, instead of opening a seprate bookmark type window (which it currently opens, and i can see no sense in that) it could open only a "about:blank" in a normal browser window (would be much better). Also history can be on menu instead of right swipe, left swipe to bring mousemode for copy text on page makes more sense in context menu as "Select text" or something. These are my suggestions, what my point is instead of a 100% clone of microb, qml browser can be a improved microb.

Well, you say you agree on adhering to the UI standards, then go on to make a number of suggestions (like altering textfield and toolbar sizes) that deviate from those standards. The components were written for the sole purpose of creating user interfaces that adhere to the Hildon UI standards using QML code.

Besides, I like the MicroB UI. That's why I copied it. :)

marxian

2014-08-03 00:15

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Update. :)

qml-browser (0.5.1)

* Added support for command line arguments (supported arguments are --url=$URL and --full_screen to force fullscreen).
* Fixed error in filenames for downloads.

Estel

2014-08-03 04:14

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Awesome. Just awesome. It seems that marxian entered some stage of pure awesomeness, lately. I see your code suggestions/tips/programs almost everywhere, and they're always a spot-on. Thank you!

Re UI discussion - I agree microB UI is, overall, performing great. There are two things, that can make person mad, though:

1. Backspace deleting text when inside text field (as it should) but acting as "previous page" if you hit shift + backspace inside same text field God, how many times I have written something with shift, then wanted to correct it with backspace, and keyboard detected it as "shift + backspace". Side effect - most of the times, you just lost everything you have written. Sometimes, scrolling forward from history allows you to recover your text. Sometimes, it doesn't.

I don't know who thought that this shortcut is a good idea, but I think he should be doomed to re-write all phone books, all by hand, at least 100 times.

Edit: Fixed shift+left arrow for shift+backspace, as it should have been.

2. The lack of "forward" button. It's just nonsense, that we have "back" button, but not forward one.

Just a thing for consideration,
/Estel

peterleinchen

2014-08-03 07:49

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

@Estel
As much as I agree to you on your POV about marxian :D
I do not get what you are talking about the shift-left button.
We do use the same version of (stock Maemo) MicroB? ;)
shift-left: in a text field it selects, but outside it does nothing.
Do you meant: backspace (delete backwards button? This one is error prone as it deletes backwards in a text field, but if you loose focus (by accidentally clicking outside on any page area or on purpose scrolling page) it will bring you back to last visited page. :mad:
But: this hit me a lot of times in early times, but nowadays not anymore. ;)

And about forward button: yes, maybe. But you may use long-press of back-button and then select the page you want to see (back or forth).
Oh and one more: who needs a button on UI for that when you have a keyboard (with a shortcut) for that: SHIFT-backspace brings you forward as backspace backwards.

--
just a clarification post :)
I will accept whatever marxian decides to build.

Sohil876

2014-08-03 08:54

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1434674)

When i said i agree to standard i meant that, but some things i think would be better not be reimplemented, the toolbar and the enter address field wasting space they shouldnt are a nice example of it, but if you feel thats not right its fine. But my other suggestion dont need altering hildon ui standard right what about them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1434687)

And about forward button: yes, maybe. But you may use long-press of back-button and then select the page you want to see (back or forth).
Oh and one more: who needs a button on UI for that when you have a keyboard (with a shortcut) for that: SHIFT-backspace brings you forward as backspace backwards.

--
just a clarification post :)
I will accept whatever marxian decides to build.

I need it cause my hardware kb is slightly broken and i use vkb mostly besides why would you want to go through so much just to get a forward page? Imho a forward page should be implemented it will be of great use and maybe it can take place of add bookmark on toolbar if marxian agrees.

Sohil876

2014-08-03 09:07

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1434675)

Update. :)

qml-browser (0.5.1)

* Added support for command line arguments (supported arguments are --url=$URL and --full_screen to force fullscreen).
* Fixed error in filenames for downloads.

That was fast, i found another bug in download manager when yu delete a download from list it shows in confirmation box "Delete (downloadsize)?" which should be "Delete (filename)?" See attached screenshot.

marxian

2014-08-03 14:03

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1434678)

Re UI discussion - I agree microB UI is, overall, performing great. There are two things, that can make person mad, though:

1. Shift+left arrow acting as shortcut for back. God, how many times I have written something with shift, then wanted to move my cursor back, and keyboard detected it as shift+back. Side effect - most of the times, you just lost everything you have written. Sometimes, scrolling forward from history allows you to recover your text. Sometimes, it doesn't.

Shift+Left doesn't seem to perform any action in the browser for me, neither in MicroB nor QML Browser. Backspace goes back in both applications. Handling of the backspace key is implemented in QWebView. I could override this, but doing that might have unwanted side effects. It would also mean that other application developers using the components would be stuck with my choices, as it is not possible to override existing key event handling in QML (you can only augment it).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1434678)

2. The lack of "forward" button. It's just nonsense, that we have "back" button, but not forward one.

I can add a 'forward' button to the toolbar (next to the 'back' button). I think the textfield width would still be acceptable, at least once loading has finished and the 'stop' button is hidden.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1434687)

@Oh and one more: who needs a button on UI for that when you have a keyboard (with a shortcut) for that: SHIFT-backspace brings you forward as backspace backwards.

Shift+Backspace doesn't seem to do anything for me in MicroB (nor in QML Browser). I'm happy to use that shortcut for the 'forward' button, so long as noone objects.

marxian

2014-08-03 14:10

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sohil876 (Post 1434694)

I forgot to add the Q_ENUMS macro to the download model, so the Roles enum is not working in QML. It always passes 0 (which happens to be Qt :: DisplayRole) instead of the correct enum value. This means the value returned will depend on which column you tap in. If you tap in the first column, you get the filename, second is the size, third is the bytes received.

xes	2014-08-03 23:25

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

While following the stock browser UI (that i like but i think it could be better), i hope there will be a place to customize things that should follow the users preferences like is possible in most of the existing browsers: a toolbar with customizable buttons and submenu to aggregate functions to free some space.on the screen.
Then, while in full screen mode, the back button could have the same behavior of the full screen trasparent switch.

Some problem:
Now the "add bookmark" button is lost and in portrait mode the toolbar is useless.
I have a strange issue that happens sometimes when a page tries to open a link into a new page: the page remains empty and the status seems to have already completed the page load.
Double click to zoom looses the position inside the page.
Switching tasks, the qml-browser has no preview, just a trasparent window.

Sohil876

2014-08-04 00:05

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1434761)

Add bookmark is there in the context menu on toolbar its not (i dont think people use it so much so it should be on toolbar anyway) but add bookmark for some reason not working correctly in portrait mode, shows no fields just a blank greyed out area.

Estel

2014-08-04 00:46

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1434723)

Shift+Left doesn't seem to perform any action in the browser for me, neither in MicroB nor QML Browser.
(...)
I can add a 'forward' button to the toolbar (next to the 'back' button). I think the textfield width would still be acceptable, at least once loading has finished and the 'stop' button is hidden.

Yes, I've messed it hard, it was about shift+backspace inside text field, while writing something (see below). I understand that you can't change it per-application :(

As for forward button, it is exactly my reasoning, I don't think it would hurt address bar length too much.

Alternatively - is possible - thing like holding shift and clicking back one the UI = forward could work too, without making address bar any shorter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1434723)

Shift+Backspace doesn't seem to do anything for me in MicroB

In fact, you're both right here. In MicroB, fullscreen, shift+backspace does nothing (opens address bar in my case, but it may be related to custom hardware keyboard settings). Unless, when you're writing something inside text field, where it act as "back".

Hoever, in MicroB outside fullscreen, it indeed act as "forward".

Which is complete nonsense, as outside of fullscreen, you already have UI buttons, so forward could be just there, this or other way. Where it is needed most (fullscreen), it doesn't work, as you've noticed. Not to mention that damn shift+backspace in text field = back, which is just... cruel.

/Estel

peterleinchen

2014-08-04 19:32

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

[OT]

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1434723)

Shift+Left doesn't seem to perform any action in the browser for me, neither in MicroB nor QML Browser. Backspace goes back in both applications.

As expected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1434723)

I can add a 'forward' button to the toolbar (next to the 'back' button). I think the textfield width would still be acceptable, at least once loading has finished and the 'stop' button is hidden.

Absolutely no objections :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1434723)

Shift+Backspace doesn't seem to do anything for me in MicroB (nor in QML Browser). I'm happy to use that shortcut for the 'forward' button, so long as noone objects.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1434764)

And this I just do not understand.
backspace as well as shift-backspace works well for me. In full screen mode and with button bar the same.
In a text field backspace just deletes and shift-backspace also.
[/OT]

marxian

2014-08-04 22:14

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1434761)

I don't have any plans for such customisation options, because the development time is too great. Customisable UI is just about the biggest hassle of all, and QML is not really suited to dynamically creating/deleting UI elements.

However, in version 0.5.3 the QML files are shipped with the application (installed to /opt/qml-browser/qml), so you are free to change anything you want there. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1434761)

Now the "add bookmark" button is lost and in portrait mode the toolbar is useless.

I removed it to make way for the 'forward' button. I'm personally happy with it either way, and since I don't have enough time to satisfy every individual UI preference, I simply give you the tools to do it yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1434761)

I have a strange issue that happens sometimes when a page tries to open a link into a new page: the page remains empty and the status seems to have already completed the page load.

It sounds like webkit is having a problem with that particular page. At some point I will try to add some error reporting in such cases (I'll have to check the APIs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1434761)

Double click to zoom looses the position inside the page.

Zoom needs fine tuning (as stated in the first post).

Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1434761)

Switching tasks, the qml-browser has no preview, just a trasparent window.

This happens when first closing a browser window and is caused by deleting of the QWebView. I don't know if it can be fixed (calling QWidget::update() on the remaining windows might do it). Performing any action that causes the remaining windows to be re-painted will return things to normal.

marxian

2014-08-04 22:17

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sohil876 (Post 1434762)

add bookmark for some reason not working correctly in portrait mode, shows no fields just a blank greyed out area.

This is a problem with the Dialog component in Qt Components Hildon. The content is not visible in portrait, only the buttons.

Estel

2014-08-05 06:50

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Two small suggestions related to fine-tuning zoom:

1. Adding possibility to do it via volume buttons just like in microB (obviously).

2. When using swirl to zoom gesture, everything seems to be re-drawed constantly(?). In more resource-heavy pages, it makes zooming this way *extremely* laggy/delayed.

If I'm not mistaken, microB just quasi-resizes the already shown content in real time when you zoom - allowing you to calibrate how big/small you want things to be - then redraw only, after swirl gesture is ended. This way, it works much more efficiently.

BTW, the same apply to zooming with volume keys, when that become a thing.
---

...and one general suggestion:

3. The description in repositories still says that qml-browser is a qml showcase, rather than something useful for daily usage. I think it should be changed now, considering how many people discover things by browsing repos, instead of TMO.

Cheers,
/Estel

marxian

2014-08-05 12:42

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1434896)

Two small suggestions related to fine-tuning zoom:

1. Adding possibility to do it via volume buttons just like in microB (obviously).

This is planned (I have already added the option in settings code), but I haven't completed the key event handling in the components yet, so I'm still not certain where I will implement the volume key handling (application side or components side). By default, Qt applications don't receive volume key events, it requires some boiler-plate code in the application.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1434896)

2. When using swirl to zoom gesture, everything seems to be re-drawed constantly(?). In more resource-heavy pages, it makes zooming this way *extremely* laggy/delayed.

That behaviour is defined in QWebView (or not defined, as the case may be). By default, QWidget updates itself when it receives a resize event. QWebView (which inherits QWidget) probably follows the same behaviour. I will take a look at the QWebView code and see if there is a way to reduce the frequency of the re-painting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1434896)

3. The description in repositories still says that qml-browser is a qml showcase, rather than something useful for daily usage. I think it should be changed now, considering how many people discover things by browsing repos, instead of TMO.

I have been thinking about that. I left it as it is to help manage expectations. I will change it for the next update.

sLumPia

2014-08-05 15:45

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Does it support text wrapping (like Opera mobile)?

marxian

2014-08-05 19:07

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by sLumPia (Post 1434926)

Does it support text wrapping (like Opera mobile)?

QWebView has a 'zoomTextOnly' property, but I'm not certain that it wraps the text. It probably does, as it's hard to imagine what else it could do.

enne30

2014-08-07 15:18

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

QMLBrowser works like a charm using mouse pointer on vncserver or tv-out and bluetooth mouse!

Thanks, I can uninstall Opera now :)

nokiabot

2014-08-08 08:03

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

which version of qt webkit it uses ? is it 4.8 its good and can it be upgraded ?

marmistrz

2014-08-08 13:01

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

could you impleent custom User Agent? IF you use QML WebView, then there was a workaround somewhere on the net.

panjgoori

2014-08-08 20:36

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

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seems like QML browser is bit better optimized for HTML5 than MicroB. and also its much much smoother than MicroB. thanks for your hardwork marxian.

attaching screens.

s4br0s0

2014-08-08 20:48

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Want to install this but can´t.

I´m on cssu stable.

Donwload .deb, open (click on .deb) with HAM, say that needs QT Components.

Same procedure for QT Components, but say can´t install.

Just Extras, nor Testing, nor Devel.

What i´m doing wrong?

Greetings.

sixwheeledbeast

2014-08-08 21:32

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4br0s0 (Post 1435269)

Probably a conflicting package, screenshot of your HAM "Problems" tab maybe helpful.

s4br0s0

2014-08-08 21:44

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1435276)

Probably a conflicting package, screenshot of your HAM "Problems" tab maybe helpful.

Status: Can´t install

Problems: Package incompatible.

Screenshot is in spanish, so...I can provide if you still want it.

Greetings.

arcean

2014-08-08 22:30

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4br0s0 (Post 1435278)

Status: Can´t install

Problems: Package incompatible.

Screenshot is in spanish, so...I can provide if you still want it.

Greetings.

Show it, we'll check it out.

s4br0s0

2014-08-08 22:40

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

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There you go.

Greetings.

murik

2014-08-09 07:05

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4br0s0 (Post 1435289)

There you go.

Greetings.

try in terminal

root
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install -f

Marshall Banana

2014-08-09 09:52

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Very good so far :D

Some things i noticed:

When in fullscreen mode and page finished loading, the "exit fullscreen" button disappears after scrolling. It reappears if i scroll again, but it disappears again after scrolling finished. The button doesn't disappear if i scroll to the top of the page. Is this a bug or a feature?
I tried using an url handler for youtube to watch/open in cutetube. If cutetube is not open, cutetube's display method doesn't get called. But that seems to be known
Is it possible to do a page reflow, like when you press CTRL+SHIFT+I in microb?

marxian

2014-08-09 14:36

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1435206)

which version of qt webkit it uses ? is it 4.8 its good and can it be upgraded ?

It uses version 4.7.0 in SSU or 4.7.4 in CSSU. It should be possible to upgrade it 4.8.*, if you want to compile from source.

marxian

2014-08-09 14:44

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1435230)

could you impleent custom User Agent? IF you use QML WebView, then there was a workaround somewhere on the net.

Yes, but I need to update the components first. Currently, the WebView component uses the default QWebPage. I will add the option to set a custom WebPage instance and re-implement QWebPage::userAgentForUrl() in the WebPage component to allow application developers to set the user agent.

marxian

2014-08-09 14:57

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall Banana (Post 1435319)

Very good so far :D

Some things i noticed:

When in fullscreen mode and page finished loading, the "exit fullscreen" button disappears after scrolling. It reappears if i scroll again, but it disappears again after scrolling finished. The button doesn't disappear if i scroll to the top of the page. Is this a bug or a feature?

It's a feature, although I just noticed that the behaviour is not quite correct. There should be timer to allow the button to remain visible for a brief time after scolling stops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall Banana (Post 1435319)

I tried using an url handler for youtube to watch/open in cutetube. If cutetube is not open, cutetube's display method doesn't get called. But that seems to be known

I noticed this myself the other day. I'm not sure why the method is not called on startup. I did make some changes the DBus handling in cuteTube without updating the adaptor code, so the chances are I just need to update the adaptor code.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall Banana (Post 1435319)

Is it possible to do a page reflow, like when you press CTRL+SHIFT+I in microb?

I can add an action with the same shortcut that asks the QWebView to update itself (re-draw its contents). I'm not sure if that will be enough to mimic the behaviour in MicroB. I just tried that shortcut in MicroB, and it didn't seem to do anything (apart from raise the toolbar), but presumably that's because no changes were made to the content during the reflow.

dos1	2014-08-09 15:10

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1435338)

Zoom in and try again ;)

nokiabot

2014-08-09 15:11

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1435333)

It uses version 4.7.0 in SSU or 4.7.4 in CSSU. It should be possible to upgrade it 4.8.*, if you want to compile from source.

omg !:eek:
i dont know how much work it can take but i want to know why are you avoiding the latest version available?:confused: it seems in qt 4.7.4 a lot of bugfixes and improvments were done so it definately should be better:cool: is stock fremantle support really necessary? :ponly a tiny fraction have not upgraded to cssu as it looks like ;)

anyway we hope for better and you know what to do:cool:

dos1	2014-08-09 15:12

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1435342)

It uses the installed version, so on CSSU it's 4.7.4.

marxian

2014-08-09 15:16

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by dos1 (Post 1435341)

Zoom in and try again ;)

I actually did that, but it seems I didn't zoom in far enough (or I just zoomed in on the 'wrong' place). :o I tried it again, and I can now see the page being re-drawn. :)

s4br0s0

2014-08-09 15:29

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by murik (Post 1435302)

try in terminal

root
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install -f

Done, but still same problem in HAM

I guess i'll install this when reach Extras, just want to try.

Greetings

nokiabot

2014-08-09 16:28

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by dos1 (Post 1435343)

It uses the installed version, so on CSSU it's 4.7.4.

thanx so it can use qt webkit 4.8 which is nice enough and nor too outdated its win win :)
i think marxian misinterpeted qt webkit 4.8 to qt 4.8 i think :p

marxian

2014-08-09 16:37

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1435347)

i think marxian misinterpeted qt webkit 4.8 to qt 4.8 i think :p

No, I meant you can compile QtWebKit 4.8 from source, and it *should* work with Qt 4.7.

s4br0s0

2014-08-09 21:23

Re: [Announce] QML Browser - Web browser written using Qt Components Hildon

Manage to install it.

Works pretty well i must say.

When log in on a web site, doesn't show the letters for a second (like microb) on the password field, kinda handy just in case.

Youtube works.

Greetings.

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