Re: Jolla Tablet
 

Common sense says that they need more people to work on it to have the feature available on launch (May 2015).
Declining not to make it ever available (when they clearly think it is a major, sought after feature), because stretch goal was not met defines all kinds of logic.

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

Ah, well, the usual point of these crowdfunding projects is to help a project get off the drawing board and into reality. I'm certain Jolla has been working on a tablet for some time now, and there are certain indications that split-screen functionality has been toyed with as well. Most likely, the tablet would have eventually been turned into a reality at some point in time; and, if Jolla survived long enough, I'm sure the split-screen concept would have been implemented as well.

However, from what I've been reading, it sounds like Intel is providing a pretty sweet deal on tablet hardware right now. Apparently such a good deal that Jolla wanted to get it on it right away. And so, they've chosen crowdfunding in order to get their tablet off the drawing board faster. And, if they want to get the split-screen feature done in time for the tablet launch, that'll take even more cash...

In any case, I don't think any of these stretch goals are things that won't exist at some point in the future. The crowdfunding campaign simply accelerates their creation.

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8AM EST. $1,498,542 What! I expected more by now!

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Eh. Less-than-exciting stretch goals.

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$1,499,196! Getting closer! I should have slept in a little longer!

EDIT:$1,499,294
EDIT:$1,499,343
EDIT:$1,499,572
EDIT:$1,500,335 Yippee!

EDIT: $1,750,000 seems so far way. How about asking Steve Balmer to make a contribution. If he can afford to buy the LA Clippers he can afford to help Jolla! Would Jolla take his money?

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

Or Shuttleworth since Ubuntu doesn't have hardware released yet ;)

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Even if they would consider it, the vox populi would be:
better die than accept that blood money
Wonder if someone from google did that what would be the consensus, for me they are even worse (and i would still vote to accept it, better alive with less pride, than proudly dead), but for some MS is still the satan.

edit: as this topic is very close to evoke a lot of MS/G hate/love that will go totally OT, here is a poll:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94267

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all Open Source idiots for donating $300000 of you hard earned money to M$ fund!

-Steve Ballmer
Edit: Stephen Elop, Satya Nadella & Bill Gates also asked to convey their gratitude for your generous donation. We will consider as your appreciation for our burning platform, Nokia, project!!.

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

Come on man, second sentence of the article you linked says that PCs, phones (and presumably tablets, as this is from 2009) pay volume-based license fees. Not the $300,000 flat rate.

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

Look at this troll-baiting skimmer trying to flame. At least have a basic understanding of the material you reference before you call others idiots.

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I apologize. I have no intention to offend anyone here or start a flame. I am one of the idiots I mentioned. Maybe it is just me that is frustrated.

I read the article and I understand your points. The fact remains that Jolla has to pay Microsoft to offer support for the filesystem. This is a filesystem that I can live without, but I believe that Jolla has to include it for them to be successful.

I love open source. I love all the hard working open source people here. I love all the people who really wanted the Jolla Tablet or bought it just to support Jolla.

I just hate the situation that Microsoft put us poor people in by copyrighting the crappy file system and making it a requirement for other systems to buy license for it. Microsoft accomplished this by not including the drivers for any other filesystem other than their own in their Operating Systems.

I don't believe there is a reasonable explanation to make it part SDXC standard, other than Microsoft control over the decision makers.

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

How about compatibility and suitability for removable storage media? As far as I know, f2fs is just about only other suitable FS out there to compete as journaling file systems with somewhat complex acl's are not the best pick for such application.

AFAIC, Jolla would do best to offer some alternative (but suitable) file system from GUI, perhaps even LUKS (don't know if it could be done in a way that allows including needed software for Windows to work with it) but to completely dismiss exFAT because of licensing issues (as if there were no other licenses in Jolla devices....).

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

Referral (ab)used! :D (hopefully, as nowhere in the page seemed to mention that the link was a valid referral)

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Apparantly Jolla is adding new options to the campaign.
$279 for a Jolla phone if you already ordered the Tablet and a combo deal for $488.
It's just that I don't think these prices are really that extraordinary to draw in the crowd.

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I am glad they listened to my suggestion, but is should have come much earlier. :)

I don't think they need an extraordinary price to draw in the crowd - what they needed is to hook up people who like the tablet but never heard of the phone.

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I think that when you haven't heard of the phone you probably won't hear of the tablet.

But what I'm getting at is that Jolla already had several actions where the phone was $249. So how is $279 a great deal if you already ordered the tablet for $209 or less ($189/$199)?

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I strongly disagree.

This campaign was not only very well covered in mainstream media, it was also featured for days on the Indiegogo front page and it was the first result that would come up when searching for 'Indiegogo' on Google.

Not just that, it also appeared in the Twitter trending topics which is quite huge itself. I would say that most visitors on the campaign page were random people that had never heard of Jolla, MeeGo or anything like that.

Getting this crowd excited about a product could be turned into them buying another product (the phone), because as I said - people will still buy anything if it's crowdfunded :)

EDIT: And for the people who did hear about the phone - I can quite easily imagine them thinking "I heard about this thing a while ago and I didn't even know the company is still around. But with this huge crowdfunding success, I might give it a shot".

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Never seen Jolla phone at 249$. You mean 249euro =306$ ;)

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Ah, the sleepless nights of following indiegogo, kickstarter and related TMO threads have finally caught up with me. :o

I like your positive thinking but "regular" people don't go around and Google 'Indiegogo'.
Most visitors of the campaign random people? I really doubt it.
Yes this campaign was way better than what they did for the introduction of the phone but it was still done in a way that requires the target audience to be tech savvy.

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Noooooo...Just Ordered a Jolla tablet :(

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There's a countdown on jolla.com for ya, Dave.
I guess that triggered your purchase.

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This is fantastic news. I hope you bought the $110,000 package so the Split Screen goal is reached. I really need to multitask!

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Does anyone know what materials are being used for the tablet? Metal? PC?

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22 hours to go and they still have ~100,000$ to go.

This is going to be close.

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Just bought the case, suppose I should buy the tablet now :D

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TEARDOWN PROMISED IF I GET ONE FREE FROM REFERRAL RACE

http://igg.me/at/jolla-tablet/x/3341704

Use above link. I promise to tear down one, if i get it for free !
Still few missing.

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Ok you got me:rolleyes:
Hope you can get it all back together :D

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Couldn't resist it anymore :)

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I don't believe it! Now up to $1,696,089! 16 hours to go and less than $80,000 to go! Come on folks! We can do it!

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

Because it is...

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An extra $250k up front would help pay for extra developers to implement it.

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$1,702,059! Less than $75,000 to get to Split Screen Multitasking Nirvana!

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You mean less than 50,000$ :p (1,750,000$)

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Actually, $250k is not that much. With taxes and running costs, that will pay 5 developers for 6 months.

I am still not convinced though that split screen is such a big deal. All it does it removing the artificial limitation added to the UI to allow only one application on the screen.

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Well Jolla have to pay others too. I guess the manufacturer won't manufacture the tablet for free and so on.

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Yes! Even better. Sorry can't do arithimetic!

Now less than $42,000 to go!

EDIT: Now < $39,000
< $37,000
< $36,000
< $35,000
< $32,000

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

last time spamming my link for referral race

promise to torture it, do experiments on it and make lots of funky stuff :)

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

How is this campaign getting more momentum still? That's insanity.

Welp, for those who want to see Jolla go to the moon and hit the mass market running, your wish may possibly be granted.

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Ubuntu edge gave us lots info...one very interesting note was a country-by-country list. Would love to see some stats for jolla tablet as well. Trying to see if anyone mad a diagram or something over the campaign...but so far nothing. Would someone mind to ask jolla about that on toghter.habour or indiegogo? Would be interesting to see if Finland made it top five.

found this:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...stretch-goals/

https://go.indiegogo.com/wp-content/...raphic_V9a.jpg

Re: Jolla Tablet
 

No. Several possible reasons.

1)You've underestimated the powerful lure of the split screen.
2)Folks wating to the last minute realizing they need to jump on this train (or boat if you prefer) or be left behind.
3)Microsoft just gave their employees a $250 Christmas bonus they can spend anyway they like...

EDIT: BTW < $31,000
< $30,000