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Just got around to installing the new 1.0.7 version of Kagu, and yet again, I come away impressed! Love the new main screen, with more ways to access all of the songs and albums. And now I can have the "shuffle all songs" option, which is the main feature I use on my iPod.

trevarthan - I haven't seen anyone mention this, but what are your plans for that unused, dark bar at the bottom? Right now, the only thing there is the 'Back' button, but it seems like it could be used. Even just putting a cool looking "Kagu" title bar heading or the program logo. Another possibility could be to have the currently playing track, for the times when we go back to the main page and that area is visible. Just a thought...

Man, I wish I knew how to program...I would love to help out, but all I can do is make requests :) Keep up the good work, guys!

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Hi. Yes, rather than a dedicated sub menu that you would search or interact with, could "Year" information be statically displayed when entering your new "Artists" sub menu and viewing the album art (?) - I personally like to know original release dates (it helps me put music and bands into context!) and I just like extra snippets of information - it helps flesh out the mp3 experience:D I agree though that "comments" is a less useful tag and hardly anybody uses that field.

"Genre" can be useful & fun, especially if you have eclectic music tastes, but again isn't essential.

I think you and everyone who's contributed to the coding/aesthetic have done a fantastic job with Kagu. The speed of development/evolution and very frequent updates has been great. Hopefully people with Linux experience will 'step up' to assist or skin/theme.

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Thanks for a great application. I hope to see more fixes and features. I am using Kagu with the 770 OS2006. A couple of observations.

- I need at least one mp3 song with my ogg songs or I get "No media available"

- ogg music plays great with the installation of N770Freak's gst-ogg-vorbis_0.1.deb.

The only fly in the ointment can be seen in the attachment. Every version of Kagu does this - dupe albums, dupe artists or dupe songs are shown. I hope an easy remedy can resolve this problem.

Keep up the good work.

Bill

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I've been thinking again how "Year" data could be utilized - rather than necessarily displaying the information, could it be used to sort the order in which albums are displayed in the "Artists" menu, rather than alphabetically? That way, discographies would be displayed in chronological order...

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You'll get this if songs belonging to the same album exist in different directories. This is to distinguish between different artists having the same album names ("Greatest Hits" or such)

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Trevarthan: As previously reported, I have edited all 95 of my song titles in mp3 format and saved the overall collection as FAVORITE VOCALS on my mmc card. The File Manager shows the titles fine, in their edited form on the mmc card. But when I run the Kagu Music Scanner and then bring up the Kagu Media Player, the edited titles do not appear. Instead the names of the albums from which I extracted them appear for each title, but the albums themselves are not listed under Albums. I suspect that all my efforts have been in vain. I can however play them with the N800 Media Player from the mmc card. I have already un-installed Canola as useless to me. (I find I can handle Internet Radio feeds easier with the Media Player.) But I sure would like to utilize Kagu for my mp3 music, but with the necessity of identifying individual song titles. Really frustrating. Sorry to burden you with this, but I don't understand what is happening. Thanks again and regards.

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Trevarthan: To clarify my last message, it's the ID tags that I edited, and they are what are not appearing in the Kagu song list, although they are seen to zip past as the Music Scanner is doing its stuff.

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By the way...

Kagu is perfectly happy with AAC files, too, if you tell /usr/lib/kagu/kagu-scanner.py to look for them!

Fire up your favorite editor/method of editing, and find the line that references '.mp3' and '.ogg', and simply add '.aac'. In version 1.0.7, that is line 316, and the line after the change reads:

ext_l = ['.mp3','.ogg','.aac']

Then everything just works...

Malc.

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We've put the title in the upper left for 1.0.8. Don't really have any additional plans for the dark bar at the bottom. Precious little screen real-estate as-is.

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I just tested and committed WMA support for 1.0.8 this morning:
https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/changeset/539

And seeing this post I decided to throw in AAC support too:
https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/changeset/540

Can someone with a lot of AAC, MP4, or whatever files download the developer snapshot (see instructions here) and try it out for us? I don't have any AAC files to test with at the moment. I'd like to see A2DP + AAC tested too, if possible.

Thanks.

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That doesn't make much sense to me unless you put the song titles under the Album field and the album names in the Title field or something.

BTW, I noticed a bug in 1.0.7 that prevented it from showing songs without ID3 info sometimes. It's been corrected for 1.0.8. I've been using a number of songs without ID3 tags with good success. We'll probably do another release in a day or two.

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could it be possible that you edited id3v1 info and left out the old info in id3v2, or vice versa? i'm not sure if the id3 parser lib we use (mutagen) prefers id3v1 over id3v2 or the other way around, but if you have different tags in id3v1/v2 (and the "preferred-by-mutagen" version has the wrong info, as trev suggested) this would cause the problem you're having.

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I just wanted to chime and say I'm really impressed with this project. This is another fine example of what the community can accomplish. Nice work Kagu team!

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Thank you! Do you personally use Kagu, Texrat?

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Not yet, but I expect to try it sooner or later. I just wanted to acknowledge the effort. You guys set an awesome example. If the products gain better traction it will be largely due to efforts like yours.

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My experience with Kagu to date has shown me that when I rip integral cd albums and copy them in their entirety to Kagu, everything works fine. The albums and their contents show up and work perfectly. It's when I have extracted individual songs from different albums that I have this problem. I am looking forward to your next release, and perhaps I will find that my problem has disappeared. Again, many thanks.

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.7
 

OK ran version 1.0.8, it found my five .m4a songs but could not find covers for them, call them unknown. It did not find my x-wav songs.

Can't seem to add no more than 1 song to playlist(via the icon) from ALL Songs menu unless I select 1 song then come out of All Songs then go back and select another. Also if I add just one song to the playlist (via the icon), all the tunes from All Songs menu are added to the Playlist menu.

Does the timer work, I could only turn it on and off.

Like the "info box" in the upper left hand corner, lets you know where you are in the main menu, nice touch. :cool:

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OK. It's taking the song title and album title from the filesystem at this point (not the built in tag), so this is expected.

x-wav isn't supported, and probably won't be. There are many formats of WAV file, and they don't have any sort of unique identifier, so telling which is which before calling mplayer for A2DP is kind of difficult. Also, most people use mp3 or some other highly compressed format these days so I'm not sure why we would want to go to the trouble of supporting it. It's not really a modern file format for music anymore.

That's not a bug. That's the way it works. The CD+ icon adds everything in the current view to the playlist. It's always been that way. If you only want to add one song, then tap that one song. (yes, it's a double tap in 1.0.8, as opposed to a single tap in 1.0.7. I don't want to discuss this publicly right now because 1.0.8 hasn't been released yet though.)

I see how that can be confusing though. The CD+ icon is intended to represent more than one song. I can see how it might seem like it represents just one song. But that isn't the case. It's not a CD single icon. :) It's a CD album icon! :) We could maybe change the icon to clarify that.

Yes, it works. It's a 1 hour (right disq?) sleep timer. Great for, well, going to sleep while listening to audio! Again, this is an upcoming 1.0.8 feature, so I want to avoid discussing it here.

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Ascherjim, try using MP3tag editor to clean up and standardize your ID3 tags - http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ brilliant program - easy to use and you can edit MP3s either individually or in batches. Also embeds album art:D

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.7
 

Keep in mind that we don't use embedded album art, and don't recommend it. You can use a cover.jpg or a folder.jpg though.

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I figured that may had been the reason for that, I just wanted to post all the info from my quick test. Thanks for the response.

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Thanks for the advice. I downloaded this application, and even though I believed my previously much-edited tags were all right as they were, I re-did them with this software. Interesting experience, but ultimately without any different results. My songs are still not displayed in Kagu in accordance with their tags (to the extent I understand the matter, which may not be all that great). Thanks again.

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There must be something we're not seeing/understanding here. I edit MP3 files all the time using tag editors. It's pretty simple. Set the Author, Album, and Title. Also set the Track if it matters. Then you upload it to the n800 and run kagu-scanner. I do it all the time with audio books. It just works.

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Do you have a tag editor that displays the id3v1 *and* id3v2 tags so you can compare them? I've used EyeD3 for this before to debug a Canola tag issue I was having. Maybe if you can show us the output of eyed3 for one song then we can figure out what's up.

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If one happened to have both a "cover.jpg" and a "folder.jpg" which would take precedence in Kagu?
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Trevarthan: I'm afraid that utilizing EyeD3 is beyond my level of expertise. I'm making too much of this, though -- and wasting too much of your (and my) time. My dilemma is that my song titles, as apparently contained in Kagu, have the artist's name coming first, then the album name, then lastly the title of the song. Obviously the display area is too limited to reveal more then the artist's name and only part of the album title. The song title doesn't get a chance to appear. I edited the tags to eliminate the album title with the intent that only the artist and song title would then appear. My N800 file manager listing follows this format perfectly, but Kagu keeps picking up the artist and album title first. Consequently, in my listing of song titles, I only get the artists with numerous listings of the same album. No song titles are displayed to help me choose which song to put in the playlist. In the future, I will only rip entire albums. Again, many, many thanks. I'm prepared to drop the matter, if you are!

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So, you're putting all of your songs in one dir? That might have something to do with it. We use the dirs to help us identify albums with multiple artists that should be classified as "Various Artists". Kagu sort of expects an /media/mmc2/album_name/song_name.mp3 format. We've tested having various artists within the same dir, but I'm not sure what happens if you've got various albums in the same dir.

We've changed the scanner code a good bit 1.0.8. You can always try that and see if it helps. I'll try to test about lumping a bunch of songs into one dir later tonight.

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Trevarthan: Last night, in yet another (desperate?) attempt, I deleted my FAVORITE SONGS directory and reloaded all the songs individually onto the mmc. They are now in their initial artist_name/album_name/song_name.mp3 format. This has not resulted in any change in their appearance in Kagu from what I described previously. I don't want to re-edit the tags to remove the artist_name in first position, as for me that's of key importance in identifying the songs to be played (as some of the song titles are sung by different artists).

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What do you mean, "in first position?" You putting the artist name before the song title in the ID3 tags? Like, "artist - title" for the Title tag?

:) I just don't understand why you're having trouble with this. I'd have to see an example of your ID3 tags I think to figure it out.

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Trevarthan: Exactly! I'm "putting the artist name before the song title in the ID3 tags? Like, "artist - title" for the Title tag." Is this possibly the cause of my problem? Is there a better way to achieve what I want? Tonight I think I'll have another go with mp3tag and change around the string orders. Again, many thanks.

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you should put the *song title* in the title tag, and artist name in the artist tag.

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Disq: That's how they currently are (and initially were). It's the order in which they are displayed in Kagu that I'm trying (and will try further) to modify. When I have such a large listing of song titles, Kagu currently doesn't appear to generate for me a separate listing of albums and artists. Only song titles -- but with the album designations appearing before the song titles -- and thus not appearing in Kagu at all. Am I making myself usefully clear? Many thanks for your help.

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There's an album field, an artist field, and a title field. Use all 3. That should be all you need to do. Also, try not to dump them into one directory. Group the mp3s by album. I'm not sure if that last bit is necessary or not, but that's how I always group mine.

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My song titles are from many different albums, sometimes only one song has been extracted from an individual album. I suppose I could proceed with my earlier-stated intent of putting the artist, album and title in a different order through re-tagging. But I think for now I'll just put the matter on hold -- at least until your new version is released which, just possibly, may help me further in this regard. Again, many thanks. By the way, I got my Motorola Bluetooth earphones working fine with Kagu -- with a little help, of course, from others in this forum.

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Is there a way to run the kagu-scanner.py from the command line without popping any notices to the GUI. I've written a script to download podcasts and I want to invoke the scanner once thats done but it might be at 3am!

Thx,

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Trevarthan: New -- and much simpler issue and question: If I want to change the cover art on an album, where do I paste it. I assume I'll be able to do this in xterm, but which directory do I go to to change an album cover displayed in Kagu?

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Not yet, but that's a great idea. I think we've all been thinking about that. https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/ticket/118

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Given an example mp3 like:
you would put a folder.jpg or a cover.jpg in:

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Hi !

I'm new here , just got my 770 a few days ago :D , i really liked the Kagu Media Player , i am a graphics/web designer and i would like to design a new interface with all new graphics , i just need a little help with the theme engine :confused: , i do have linux knowledge ( been a linux user for many years ) but i can't find any documentation about the theme engine .

Thanks !

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Hey! Welcome! That's great news! Well, you can always talk to us here, but for really fast feedback (i.e. realtime), the best way to chat with us is to get an IRC client and log into the #kagu channel on the FreeNode network. disq, audioworld, Tony Maro, and I hang out there all day long and discuss development.

For basic theme changes, all you need to do is check out the Development Snapshot and modify this file:
https://www.guardiani.us/projects/ka...es/sprites.psd

Then save your changes as this file:
https://www.guardiani.us/projects/ka...ta/sprites.png


For more advanced changes, like changing the placement of icons on the screen, we'll need to create a layout engine for you. Hop over to #kagu sometime and we'll discuss it further.