Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I guest microb support will come in the next release.

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/...189171468.html

What's next

We are continuing the work on the Hacker Edition with the following goals:

* Update to maemo 4.0 Chinook
* Mozilla based engine
* Further bug fixes

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I guess this is to be expected, as the original announcement (link on first post of this thread) clearly states :

Known issues
(...)
The Mozilla based browser is not included in this release, and the current version for the official Internet Tablet OS 2006 has some conflicts with dependencies. However, it shouldn't be difficult to build new packages specific for this Hacker Edition and then install the Mozilla engine manually.


Now we wait for the missing bit - not as if we aren't used to it, eh ? :-)

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Can anybody confirm if the cover actually is fully supported now?

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

screen 'n keys turn off. wifi stays on.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

does the a2dp hack work in new HE release/ any possibility of working due to hardware limitations?

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Well, it just says it is not included. Also version targeted for OS2006 may not be compatible with OS2007, this can be expected. But Carlos wrote "On the up side, all the user space libraries have been updated as well as all the applications, so we expect application portability across N800 OS2007 and the 770 hacker edition as long as code is not compiled specifically for OMAP2." so this should mean Microb for N800 should simply work.

However it looks it is not working. I guess this has something to do with browser UI being modified on hacker edition to work with older Opera engine. Once you update to microb which adds new engine but also updates the browser UI and abstraction layer it breaks. You can see dependencies for microb-browser in aplication manager, it can be seen it wants to update many tablet-browser-.... packages.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

It installs - using the 770 version of mplayer - but it doesn't seem to work. I don't know why.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available (Skype)
 

I was able to install skype on the latest OS2007 HE.
skype started and was showing the skype screen. But not response to any touch, then killed by the system.

You can download skype for n800 from here
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/...wnloading.html

or add the repository:
Web Address: http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/
Distribution: bora
Components: user

It seems that most libraries used by skype work. You may have a try to see if we can hack it.

Here are the output when start skype from xterm.
/ $ skype

++++++++++++++++++++ Start time: 0 msec
skype[2024]: void ProcessMonitor::KillPid(pid_t): Sending SIGTERM signal to the process group 2005
skype[2024]: void ProcessMonitor::KillPid(pid_t): Executing cleanup handler
skype[2024]: Executing void ProcessMonitor::Start()
skype[2029]: Executing void ProcessMonitor::Exec()
skype[2029]: void ProcessMonitor::Exec(): executing '/usr/bin/vengine vengine'
++++++++++++++++++++ VEngine is started: 1557 msec
unixSocket = /tmp/skype_socket
skype[2024]: void ProcessMonitor::KillPid(pid_t): Sending SIGTERM signal to the process group 2006
skype[2024]: void ProcessMonitor::KillPid(pid_t): Executing cleanup handler
skype[2024]: Executing void ProcessMonitor::Start()
skype[2030]: Executing void ProcessMonitor::Exec()

++++++++++++++++++++ SkyHost is started: 1872 msec
skype[2024]: Handler for signal Interrupt was installed
skype[2024]: Handler for signal Terminated was installed
skype[2024]: Handler for signal Aborted was installed
skype[2030]: void ProcessMonitor::Exec(): executing '/usr/bin/skyhost skyhost -o -s /tmp/skype_socket'

++++++++++++++++++++ Localization+HildonProgram created: 2634 msec
++++++++++++++++++++ After custom theming: 2634 msec
SkyHost Copyright (C) 2003-2007 Skype Technologies S.A.

Proprietary and confidential, do not share this application.

SkyHost is set to expire on Wed Oct 3 11:55:50 2007

++++++++++++++++++++ Background image is set up: 17212 msec

LOG: bUnixSocket = SESocketTransport

vengine[2029]: GetVersion()

vengine[2029]: Init()

vengine[2029]: GLIB MESSAGE farsight - looking for plugins in /usr/lib/farsight-0.1/

opening module /usr/lib/farsight-0.1//librtp-session.so: succeeded

vengine[2029]: GLIB MESSAGE farsight-rtp - Setting uPnP to true

vengine[2029]: GLIB MESSAGE farsight-rtp - Media type is 0

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - looking for /home/user/.farsight/gstelements.conf

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - looking for /etc/farsight/gstelements.conf

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - adding codec iLBC with pt 96, send_pipeline 0x88b70, receive_pipeline 0x88c40

pipeline: 0x6e750:4:dspilbcsrc 0x55ec0:4:rtpilbcpay

pipeline: 0x71800:4:dspilbcsink 0x55e30:4:rtpilbcdepay

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - adding codec PCMU with pt 0, send_pipeline 0x88a30, receive_pipeline 0x88c20

pipeline: 0x5ee30:6:dsppcmsrc 0x5d2d0:4:rtppcmupay

pipeline: 0x5eec0:6:dsppcmsink 0x5d360:4:rtppcmudepay

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - adding codec PCMA with pt 8, send_pipeline 0x88c10, receive_pipeline 0x8b490

pipeline: 0x5ee30:7:dsppcmsrc 0x5d240:4:rtppcmapay

pipeline: 0x5eec0:7:dsppcmsink 0x5d3f0:4:rtppcmadepay

vengine[2029]: GLIB MESSAGE farsight-rtp - Init and preparing transmitter using stun (null) : 0 and turn (null) : 0

vengine[2029]: GLIB MESSAGE farsight - looking for plugins in /usr/lib/farsight-0.1/

opening module /usr/lib/farsight-0.1//libskype-transmitter.so: succeeded

vengine[2029]: GLIB MESSAGE farsight-rtp - connect state changed to 2

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - farsight_rtp_stream_build_base_pipeline (1930): creating core RTP pipeline

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - added transmitter_src 0x9a078 to pipeline 0x8c800

vengine[2029]: Trying codec iLBC (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Trying codec PCMA (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Trying codec PCMU (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Trying codec iLBC (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Trying codec PCMA (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Trying codec PCMU (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Found codec PCMU

vengine[2029]: Trying codec iLBC (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Trying codec PCMA (clock-rate=8000 channels=0)

vengine[2029]: Found codec PCMA

vengine[2029]: Found codec PCMU (PT=0)

vengine[2029]: Found codec PCMA (PT=8)

vengine[2029]: update_fs_codecs(0x4f028)

vengine[2029]: Adding codec PCMU (pt=0, clock-rate=8000, channel=1)

vengine[2029]: Adding codec PCMA (pt=8, clock-rate=8000, channel=1)

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - farsight_rtp_stream_stop (2509): stopping media pipeline

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - farsight_rtp_stream_stop: Setting state to NULL

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - farsight_rtp_stream_stop: DONE Setting state to NULL returned 1

vengine[2029]: GLIB DEBUG farsight-rtp - Changed pipeline state to NULL succesfully

vengine[2029]: GLIB MESSAGE farsight - Unloading plugin skype-transmitter

Binary corrupted (o)

Edit: Here is a normal log file from skype:
https://developer.skype.com/jira/sec...kype.note.html

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Hello,

Can somebody explain to me why the Operabrowser used in this Haccker edition has problems with Hotmail's log-on screen?
If I use the 'fit to width'-option, I can not see the login-fields and when turn this option off, the login-fields are to much (way to much) to the right. I have to use the horizontal scrollbar to get there.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Have you tried with kagu player. I think (may be wrong) it does not work with anything else

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

It didn't work with mplayer.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available (Skype)
 

...interesting. I have the same problem. It would be nice to know what it is trying to do there. If it is possible to go around it or if it really needs N800. Tried with strace?

Will give it another try next week...

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I've tryed to install Rtcomm on my nokia 770, with os2007HE 4.2007.36, but Rtcomm still don't working-....

anybody knows how to ?

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Few of things I've noted since upgrading:

1. WiFi connect happens immediately upon bootup - is this the behavior of the N800?

2. Bluetooth keyboard connects, but never auto-connects. Always have to go through Control Panel/Bluetooth/Devices/Connect, etc. - anyway to get it to auto-connect like bt-plugin on N770?

3. Seems to constantly charge if booted (or indicate charging, even if disconnect from WiFi). If off, it will complete charging, and indicate same.

4. Application Manager seems to be AWFULLY slow, much slower than N770 Application Manager.

5. What I've done so far with Opera - it's much faster.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Well, I've gone back to OS2006. The longer 2007HE ran, the slower everything got. It would take minutes to start/stop apps.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

______________________________________
2007He2007.36-2 MMC 2006OS Flash/MMC 2G

Second Look
=========


[Quote:
_________________________________
2007He2007.36-2 flash 2006OS MMC 1G

First impression (9/8/07)
===========
Extremely impressed with this recently released 2007He2007.36-2 version for the 770. The file manager is completely compatible with 2006OS. The prev 2007He (2006.47) version file manager can only read the name of the file, but not execute the file, e.g. you cant even delete the file if file was created under 2006OS and browse under 2007He (3rd party SW is case by case, spreadsheet yes to read but not ren or del, MM route/track cant even read. maps are the same though). For people that flip back and forth with 2007He2006.47 (old one), and 2006OS, like myself (I use 2006OS ONLY for video media, I use 2007He for everything else), I have to keep a copy for each OS, it is headache on management and it wasted tons of space. Now it is over, the new 2007He2007.36-2 does not have this problem. I immediately del dup copies and reclaim space. Space is v precious for a 1G MMC. And yes, 2006OS is able to execute/ren/del files created under 2007He2007
__________________________________________________ _______QUOTE]


It has been exactly one week since the above 1st impression and there has since been more than 50+ posts about the newly released 2007He2007.36-2, it is time to clear some myth and answer the question the second time, "if she is your mother (ok ok, your father), would you recommend her/him to upgrade to 2007He?"


_________________
Does it run FASTER?

2007He flash, 2007He MMC, 2006OS Flash, 2006OS MMC

Boot, 54, 50, 38, 36
Inet 1st load, 44, 44, 45, 44
2nd load , 8, 9, 7, 8,
Gnumeric load, 13, 11, 16, 15
recalc, 8, 8, 7, 7,
switch off, 8, 10, 10, 9
loading 500songs,
TVersity/inet, 8, 7, 7,
TVersity/mediastr 9, 8, 8,
Mplayer, 65, 67, Not available
DSLreports, 520, 500, Not available
1stloading, 11, 11, 10
2ndloading, 12, 10, 11

The number shown are in seconds, the smaller the number, the faster it runs.
How the test was done: Boot, after the menu shown till all dust settle; loading 500 songs for media streaming, using TVersity coupled with inet, mediastreamer, vs Mplayer, and Mplayer is 9X slower in loading, interesting.
Dslreports shown is 1000 - kb/s, the larger the number shown, the slower the r/w.

comparison between MMC and flash obviously depends on available internal memory. comparison between 2007He and 2006OS upon initial loading takes into the account, that the WIFI loading is included in 2007He but not in 2006OS.

All runs are ave of triplicate running.

There is NO significant speed difference between tested OS, which are 2007He on flash, 2007He on MMC, 2006OS on flash, and 2006 on MMC.

____________________
Does it run MORE apps?

Here is the answer,

[QUOTE
____________________________________
2007He2007.36-2 flash, 2006Os MMC on 1G


2007He2006.47 (old 2007He)_____2007He2007.36-2 (new 2007He)
__________________________________________________ _____
AisleRiot solitaire ___?
Becomeroot _______.1-2 ____________same
canoe ____________0.2.0-1
dates______________________________.4.4.1
diskusage___________________________.1.20070202-1
flite ______________1.3______________same
geoclue-status _____.2.2-1
gnumeric __________1.7.0-lindt3_______same
gpe-calendar ______2.8+maemo-1______same
gpe-filemanager ____2.8+maemo-1______same
idea ______________1.0-n800 _________same
libsqlite0 __________2.8.17-2 __________same
libsqlite3-0 ________3.3.8-1 ___________same
maemo-mapper ____1.4.7-2 ____________same
mediacenter _______1.61_______________same
mediastreamer _____1.2-14_____________same
minimo ____________0.20.1_____________0.20.2
mplayer ___________1.0rc1-maemo.18.n770_same
openssh-server _____1.43p2-9.maemo3
osso-xterm ________0.13mh24bora1______same
proj ______________4.4.9-3 ____________same
python2.5-runtime __.4-12______________same
rdesktop___________.4_________________same
simple-launcher________________________0.9.4
sqlite3 ____________3.3.8-1____________same
Vncviewer _________0.6 _______________same
wget________________________________1.10.2-2ubuntu1mg2

Above all tested and worked.QUOTE], http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=9282.



With a few exceptions, I have tested all under 2006OS, they ALL run.
I have yet to find one apps that ONLY runs on 2007He but not on 2006OS (I am sure there maybe some if one looks really really hard). 2007He does not open the 770 to more apps.

Major difference that I noticeD:

a) opera is more smoother, it occasional hangs but always recover under 2007He, while 2006OS will need A reboot; flash 9 worked.....like driving a pig up to the tree, its difficult, and one day is better the other, sometimes worked under 2007He. 2006OS is unavailable. Google maps totally working under 2007He.

b) BT is well behaving under 2007He. I have yet to re-pair BT even once under 2007He. It is always able to wake up a BT device. and BT app is ONLY available under 2007He, not 2006OS, for example, file transfer.

3) apps involving video: forget it. it behaved haphazardly under 2007He and behave beautifully under 2006OS. For example, with a lot of tweaking, mediastreamer, video and audio, is somewhat working under 2007He, but have no control on the program. Say, secretly watching a porno movie or reading a secret FBI report, suddenly somebody show up and you want to turn it off, nay, you cant. With luck, you may be able to switch to different apps, but the audio continue running in the background and there is noway you can turn it off.........one has to wait for it to boot down.

Conclusion:

2007He runs smoother on opera, give a working BT connection but no video apps. To answer the question, if your mother/father watch porno movie or work for the FBI or with similar usage/circumstance, the answer is NO.:eek: Otherwise, go ahead and upgrade. I stay with the 2007He because my BT usage (file transfer several times a day!) and GPS usage, outweigh video apps, and my mother/father does not watch porno nor works for the FBI :p

Yes?
NO?
dont care?


bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

The decision is much obvious, one should have both. That is what I am having. My path: new 770 from box, running 2006OS, clone to MMC (2006OS MMC), flash to 2007He2007.36-2, clone to MMC (a different MMC card, 2007He on MMC), re-flash the 770 back to 2006OS in planning.

Then I got both video and BT.

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Can someone please tell me how to get fanoush's fast MMC access kernel onto this latest HE image?

Is it possible? Thanks.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Shameless copy/paste,

__________________________________________________ ____
07-06-2007, 06:34 PM
weezedog Offline
Member Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 34

Re: Successfully flashed ITOS2007HE with Fanoush's MMCPlus+Multiiblock writes

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ok here's a pretty much step by step guide of what I did. If you install unzip you could do this 100% on the nokia, but I didn't feel like installing unzip so I just used my Windows PC to unzip the Zimage and put in on the mmc card via usb.

Before doing this, make sure you have xterm and becomeroot installed. I'm pretty sure it's required to access the kernel.
This was all done while booted from the MMC, I did not boot to the internal flash.

1. On my PC,downloaded the Zimage from, http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#mmcplus.
2. Unzipped the file and copied it to the mmc card via usb. The file should be called zImage-su-18-200639-2gb-mmcplus52Mhz-multiblockw
3. Once on the mmc card, I copied the zImage from the mmc card to the Documents folder, just to be on the safe side I wanted the flasher and zimage in the same place. Now with ITOS2007 this has to be done from the terminal because filemanager can't manage files on the mmc, its a bug.
I think the command I used was:
"cp /media/mmc1/zImage-su-18-200639-2gb-mmcplus52Mhz-multiblockw /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/"


4.On the 770, download the following kernel flasher file from, http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#mmcplus. Save it to your documents folder.
5. Open X-term and give your self root access by typing "sudo gainroot"
6. Change directories by typing "cd /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/"
7. Uncompress it using the following command "tar zxvf kernel_flasher.tgz"
8. Change directories by typing "cd kernel_flasher"
9. Flash image by typing "./kernel_flash /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/zImage-su-18-200639-2gb-mmcplus52Mhz-multiblockw"
10. Reboot by typing "shutdown -r now"

And of course all commands are typed without quotation marks. You could also shorten the zImage file name to make it easier on yourself, but I didn't.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last edited by weezedog : 07-06-2007 at 06:39 PM.

__________________________________________________ _________


Have not tried it yet, they are the same, I think the above is slightly in more details, though.

tell us what you found,

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Bun - when you copy and paste text containing links you need to add the URLs manually... for example, nobody has any idea where "here" is (step 1) though it's most likely Fanoush's site I posted previously. :)

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Me bad, I did not read!, I editted it now, thanks, Mil.

Hey, I just PM you something interesting......


bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I've loaded 07HE three or four times now, and every time, after a day or even less, things begin to slow down dramatically.

Haven't tried anything fancy, just xterm, becomeroot, fbreader. When I slide the cover off, it takes forever to recognize the first tap, if it does at all. I'm glad for the effort and appreciate the work going into the 770, but is there something I'm doing wrong?

Could it be an mmc card i/o issue, or something like that?

Carl - Linux "tinkerer"

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Are you boot up from flash or MMC? Post your config and we will take a good look. For me, there is NO going back, not to mention progs are running MUCH smoother, and watching videocenter is ONLY allowed on 2007He. Videocenter allows podcatcher, which open the potential for CNN,FOX and major channels. I use the word potential, as I have only able to watch Nokia supplied podcast, and has NOT been sucessful in 'watching' anything podcast thing yet, though, it installs.

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Sorry, bun, left my charger at work and 770 near dead now. Working from old linux laptop with lightweight ubuntu. But what is the "config" that you wanted for 770?

I would love to boot off card (512 Kingston), had that working in '06, but haven't even tried with latest HE, so booting off internal memory for now. Was going to try reformatting mmc, to test my theory on possible virtual memory/card problem, but obviously can't do now. Will try tomorrow if time allows.

Does everyone pretty much use the app manager to load stuff, or do you gurus use apt-get to load stuff? Thanks for your reply, I'll get back to this tomorrow!

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Same thing for me. Zipped like greased lightning after loading. After about 12 hours, it would start taking longer to load and close apps. I finally reflashed to 2006 when it started taking 20 minutes to load/unload apps.

Nothing special loaded, either. xterm, becomeroot, maemo mapper (2006 version, as outlined in other threads).

I was not booting from MMC, I had completely flashed the unit to 2007. I also reformatted my 2GB MMC to FAT32 (and copied documents, etc. back to it) when I first loaded 2007.

I noticed that it really started after Opera crashed a couple of times. After the second time - it was hosed. I finally had to remove the battery to get it to shut down, so I could reflash 2006.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Follow up to earlier comments:

Okay, I know I'm a little dense sometimes, but MAYBE I've discovered a problem?

I tried reformatting the mmc to make sure it wasn't a swap issue, still problems. So I reflashed again. THIS time, however, I checked Tools/Control Panel/About and found that I had version 4.2007.26-8, NOT 4.2007.36-2.

So I redownloaded the file from the link on Maemo, made sure that I got the following:

SU-18_2007HACKER_4.2007.36-2_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin

Re-flashed and STILL 4.2007.26-8!

Wazzup with that!!??? And yes, it finally crashes HARD, with battery removal the only option to reboot.

I guess it's back to 2006 for now... THANKS ALL!

Carl - frustrated Linux tinkerer

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

[QUOTE=cseals3;76779]Follow up to earlier comments:


SU-18_2007HACKER_4.2007.36-2_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin

Re-flashed and STILL 4.2007.26-8!

I am sorry you are frustrated. I can understand that. I wish you have better luck next time. And I am happy that you are settled down with your 2006OS.

Couple of things, I noticed the same thing too, dl file is named 2007.36-2, but installed product under "About" noted as 2007.26-8. I noted on the day of release,

[QUOTE--------
#20 09-07-2007, 04:13 PM
bunanson
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 154

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available

Ummmm....I installed He2007.36-2, but the installed version under device is He 4.2007.26-8. Interesting...

bun

--------------QUOTE]

So, in a nut shell, you did not do anything different, and I am still puzzling why you are having difficulty with your 2007He.

Other than crashing, you also complaint it is running slow, is only the opera browser or ALL progs? For the opera browser, I have installed those tips,
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ght=opera+tips,

and these too,
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ght=opera+tips

they increase browser page initial loading 25% faster, and does not have noticeble change on subsequent page loading. Well, I do not just say it, I MEASURED it before and after. They also worked on the 2006OS. I hope this may get you some boost, both the 770 and your mood, cheer up, pal.:)

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

bun:

Thanks so much for your help! I'll try the opera tips soon. Yes, I wish that I could get it running, but I'm out of ideas for now. Maybe the NEXT 2007HE will work for me. I like the challenge...

Installed Fanoush's mmc speed up after hooking up 2006 tonight, made things pretty zippy. Still miss that '07 interface, auto-connect, etc., but still havin' fun...

Thanks for taking such an active role in the forum, maybe one of these days I'll have something to offer, that is if we haven't all moved along to the next gadget...

Take care, and keep up the good work!

Carl

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Wow, you already did the mmc speed up patch? You are way ahead of most people. I have not tried yet, I am busy with video streaming and videocenter. you mind to share your procedure? lets see how you do it, and any tips while doing the patch? Dont mind if other post already there, the more the merier.:)

TIA,

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Strange, really stable here ... more stable than OS2006 I say. Also the device always look really fast. Never experienced a slow down.

Only rare problem have had is reboot/crash due to wifi usage.

Kos

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Fanoush kernel with MMC speed-up is a must ... really boost the whole system (if the OS is installed on the MMC card).

right now I'm using the multiblock writes version without any problem.

Kos

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

bun/all:

Regarding the mmc driver install, it's really easy and doesn't take long. Fanoush pretty much has everything at his site

http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/

that you need, except perhaps for the flasher utility.

I just downloaded the file that he recommended (there are several versions) to my trusty ol' linux box, and flashed it to the 770 like you would an OS install. It was finished almost before I realized it.

I tried the standard "52Mhz" kernel first, then after seeing that work, went for the "multiblock" kernel. Biggest pain was having to find and download (apt-get) "unzip" to break out the .zip files. Not sure why they're in .zip format.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure that he has kernels for 2007HE. Also, I didn't try flashing the 770 directly on the device as he said could be done. I was more comfortable doing it from the laptop...

This should help speed things up even if you don't have your OS loaded on the mmc, because it will speed the swap file, right? It seems to work for me, but it would be interesting to have some sort of measurement.

Hope this helps someone, all have a great weekend!

Carl

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

2007HE use 2006OS kernel and initfs ... but for some reason last 200HE use OS2006 2.2006.39 one and not OS2006 3.2006.49 updated version.

In fact since jffs2 is a compressed file system, the internal flash is really slower than mmc card. And with the right driver (fanoush mmc kernel) you can boost the speed of the mmc card ...

Kos

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Failed to see a speed difference after installed the MMCplus52Mhzmultiblockw on a 2007He2007.36-2 MMC 2 G Kingston system, whereas observed a 2X speed enhancement on a 2006OS 1G Kingston system.

The system still works and works fine, very disappointed that there is no speed difference contrary to other posts in the fora. I also installed the MMCplus52Mhz in the 2006OS MMC 1 G Kingston system, and it flies, at a speed at least 2X from before. What gives? Suggestions? Comments?

More details as follow,

I have 2 MMC cards, a 2G Kingston and a 1G Kingston MMC mobile. I have cloned 2007He2007.36-2 on the 2 G and 2006OS on the 1 G and both are rock solid stable, working fine. Well, wants to try the MMCplus52Mhz patch. Not quite sure how to go, so starts with the 1G 2006OS as a trial, went without a problem and the system now flies at a speed 2X when compared to before the patch. And upon bootup, saw two minor differences on top of the speed difference,

1) the bootmenu used to have the clock count down on the top right corner, disappeared upon choosing MMC2 boot, and will lock into that menu unless the center button is pressed.
2) Upon pressing the center button, it will boot up but the blue progress line on the bottom of the screen will fly only 3/4 of the way, not to the end, the system booted.

that is the 2006OS with the MMC52Mhz patch, is what everybody sees or mine is different? Upon measuring the speed, it is at least 2X faster in loading the opera page. and the system works fine.

Now here is the 2007He,

I now inserted the 2 G card which has the 2007He system cloned. (This is right after I patched under the with the 2006OS 1G system). it booted up and also lost the right top corner clock, i.e., it showed a difference. but the blue progress line went to the end and there was no measureable speed difference. The system runs fine, it just fails to show the speed enhancement that everybody has experienced.


OK, maybe it needs to be patched when the 2007He is running, is it, or is it NOT?

So I redo the MMC52Mhz patch under the 2007He system, and got the same results, no speed difference, it still boots with losing the clock counting on the right hand corner, and blue progress line goes to the end, speed remains the same, no enhancement.

Any gurus/sr/jr members/newbies suggestion, where to look, what to do, or just accept, I goofed?

I do not have a Linux box, so test under that is not possible. Both of my Kingston cards are from Neweggs, reputable source.

kind of frustrated now,

bun:(

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

How I did it? I dl the the 2 files from Fanoush web site directly onto my MMC card, the kernel_flasher.tgz, and the zImage-su-18-200639-egb-mmcplus52Mhz-multiblockw.zip I unzipped zImage file under Xterm, gainroot, tar the .tgz file, then flash the system while both flasher and zImage are at /.documents. How long it take? Less than 5 minutes. How does it work? See the above post.................:(

frustration persisted,
bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Does your 2GB card support high speed or multi-block mode? Sounds like it may not.

Both OS 2007HE and OS 2006 will be using the same kernel - the kernel is stored in internal flash and the same kernel is used when booting from internal flash or MMC, so the only difference is likely to be your cards.

A better test of improved performance than looking at the boot progress bar is to to time a dd read (examples elsewhere in various SDHC threads).

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

'losing the clock' means you pressed some key, it is there only if you don't touch any key.

As for speed, did you actually measure something or just looked at the blue bar? The bar is probably calibrated for N800 so it is too optimistic in both cases. Try to measure real time till system boots completely. Also dd test is best for testing raw card speed, seach forum for 'dd if=/dev/mmcblk0'.

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That is correct. If I did not touch anything, a clock count down from 29 to 0 and internal flash booted. But if I pressed the down arrow key to hi light the MMC2 boot up, but not pressing the center button, the clock count disappear and the menu stays on screen till I press the central button and booting start. I thought befor the patch, I would shift the hi light to MMC2 booting, and even if I did not press the central button, clock continue to count down and finish with MMC2 booting as mmc2 is now being hi light. I just try to convince myself that I did flash the patch and a change did occur, it is not important.
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As for speed, did you actually measure something or just looked at the blue bar? The bar is probably calibrated for N800 so it is too optimistic in both cases. Try to measure real time till system boots completely. Also dd test is best for testing raw card speed, seach forum for 'dd if=/dev/mmcblk0'.

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Yes, I did measure the time as I have reported in the past. I actually clocked the time to boot up and boot down, and 1st inet web page show up and 2nd inet page show up, and gnumeric spreadsheet recalc etc, they showed no difference. Again, I mentioned the blue progress bar just to show if anybody observe similar behavior, that will convince me the patch was flashed correctly.

And yes, I also clocked the same behavior on 2006OS MMC 1G system patch and no patch. OMG, it is flying at least 2X faster on webpage loading, again, initial loading is more dramatic than subsequent loading. So does gnumeric sheet is also faster, and mplayer loading 500 songs cut from 67s down to 31s. these are all measured against my prev post, ave of 3 trials. But............I dont use 2006OS! I have been using 2007He since the new 2007He release. I went back to 2006OS occasionally in the past, if I have to use some video stuff and since then I have learned how to do with videocenter/mplayer/media player, and have no intention of booting 2006OS.

Mil's comment about whether it is compatible with MMCplus patch is a thought. plan:

try to measure the dd if=. If it turns out to be no improvement, I am thinking to reflash the 2007He and reclone the 2007He 2G and then, of course re-patch the MMC. What really really piss me off, if the result remains the same, I would SCREAM. well, we'll see........ thanks Mil and Fanoush the quick response. Today is Saturday, I am having with videocentere hacking, will readdress the issue when I am bored.:)

I have attached the spreadsheet clocking of all 4 OS, the 2007He flash, 2007He MMC, 2007He MMC with MMCplus patch, and 2006 flash, 2006 MMC and 2006 MMC with patch.



bun


addendum:

2007He flash 2007He MMC 2007HeMMCplus 2006OS Flash 2006OS MMC 2006OS MMCplus
Boot 54 50 40 38 36 25
Inet 1st load 44 44 32 45 44 15
2nd load 8 9 7 7 8 6
Gnumeric load 13 11 10 16 15 11
recalc 8 8 5 7 7 6
switch off 8 10 8 10 9 11
loading 500songs
TVersity/inet 8 7 7 8
TVersity/mediastreamer 9 8 8 9
Mplayer 65 67 32 Not available
DSLreports 520 500 Not available
1stloading 11 11 8 10 7
2ndloading 12 10 9 11 7


I am sorry, dont know how to post table in this forum. Basically, it is a comparison among different OS, well, it is unreadable. I may try to post a .jpg later. sorry.

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Umm..................I think we have a problem here.

I did exactly like the following,
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Re: How can I test my read speed of my MMC

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In XTerminal, As root type: time dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/null bs=4096 count=40000

Mine took 30secs but thats with the MMCPlus Modified kernel and MMCPlus card. I dont know what a good speed for a normal card and/or normal kernel is.


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#3 07-29-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: How can I test my read speed of my MMC

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I also have the modified kernel loaded on my 770. I used the zImage-su-18-200639-2gb-mmcplus52Mhz-multiblockw version. My test results with a Kingston 2GB MMC card is:

/home/user # time dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/null bs=4096 count=40000
40000+0 records in
40000+0 records out
real 0m 29.83s
user 0m 0.09s
sys 0m 3.85s

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And the result, is exactly as above! I also confirm with a real time clock, and the result is also 29.5 seconds. Well, looks like my patch is alright, and I am curious to see those that did not patch and post what is the time counts for 40000 records on a 2007He2007.36-2 MMC system, the more the merrier, post any system you like, just for the record.


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