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abranson 2016-03-04 08:22

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matimilko (Post 1491657)
Anybody knows how to upgrade to a new Firmware on Pebble classic?

That doesn't work on pebbled right now - it's checking the wrong URL and can't deal with the migration firmware. Rockpool will be able to do it when it has a UI.

asa 2016-03-16 14:35

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Hi,

I'm going to ask here too.

Does Time Round work with Sailfish? I'd like upgrade my Pebble Classic.

abranson 2016-03-16 15:12

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
I can't say for sure, but I think the PTR works with Rockpool.

asa 2016-03-17 13:21

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abranson (Post 1501462)
I can't say for sure, but I think the PTR works with Rockpool.

Thanks!

Let's try. Just ordered one.

abranson 2016-03-17 13:47

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asa (Post 1501550)
Thanks!

Let's try. Just ordered one.

Sticking your neck out is the Sailfish way. We should be able to fix it if it doesn't work. Katharine's very helpful in the Telegram chat.

http://i.imgur.com/kzayUWd.jpg

asa 2016-03-23 09:05

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
PTR works straight out of the box with RockPool!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...323_110927.jpg

abranson 2016-03-23 12:37

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Where's the progress bar??

asa 2016-03-23 12:50

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Should there be one? I only get a cassette logo on the bottom, when I play a song.

edit. I'm using CuteSpot.

abranson 2016-03-23 13:12

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asa (Post 1501997)
Should there be one? I only get a cassette logo on the bottom, when I play a song.

edit. I'm using CuteSpot.

Ah the current version of CuteSpot doesn't do it. I contributed a fix for it the other day, but you'll have to wait for a new release. You should see the progress bar when using the Jolla player. Maybe others - it all depends if they send correct duration and position info in their MPRIS data.

asa 2016-03-23 13:28

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
All right. Good to know that there's a fix on the way.

BTW, is there any way to donate or somehow thank you guys for your hard and excellent work?

abranson 2016-03-23 18:29

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Tbh all we've done is piece together other people's work and filled in some gaps. If you want to do something, show your friends and colleagues how awesome Rockpool has got in such a short time because of the great support of open source and open protocols by Sailfish and Pebble, and everyone who's contributed and encouraged. This is how it's supposed to work.

MikeHG 2016-03-24 01:13

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Pebble apparently laying off 1/4 of staff:

http://www.techinsider.io/pebble-layoffs-2016-3

We know how to pick em, don't we? :D

mosen 2016-03-24 06:51

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abranson (Post 1502033)
Tbh all we've done is piece together other people's work and filled in some gaps.

Awesome nevertheless :rolleyes:

But now you attract noobs like me, still sitting on 2.9.1 FW using pebble steel and pebbled with the growing question if it is already beneficial to upgrade to time FW and use rockpool?

Could someone wrap up a short "ceo summary" of what is working and what not? Maybe edit into the first post?
I heard it is not possible to downgrade back to non-time FW, so it would be cool to know before "loosing features" by simply trying out.

Any idea of how i could contribute without any qml but some console skills? Is the upgrade/install process already documented "noob friendly" comes to mind?

abranson 2016-03-24 09:53

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1502049)
Awesome nevertheless :rolleyes:

Yeah, just making it clear that I wouldn't be comfortable taking donations for what's largely other people's work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1502049)
But now you attract noobs like me, still sitting on 2.9.1 FW using pebble steel and pebbled with the growing question if it is already beneficial to upgrade to time FW and use rockpool?
Could someone wrap up a short "ceo summary" of what is working and what not? Maybe edit into the first post?
I heard it is not possible to downgrade back to non-time FW, so it would be cool to know before "loosing features" by simply trying out.

Yep, good idea. I don't want to be too encouraging until we've had some more testing though - we've already had someone stuck on recovery firmware, but luckily he was handy enough to get himself out of it.

I don't think you lose any features right now if you upgrade. There may be some apps that work in pebbled but not Rockpool yet. Needs more testing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1502049)
Any idea of how i could contribute without any qml but some console skills? Is the upgrade/install process already documented "noob friendly" comes to mind?

That sounds great. You can never have enough testing nor docs.

mosen 2016-03-24 10:42

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abranson (Post 1502053)
I don't think you lose any features right now if you upgrade.

That is encouraging enough for me!
Will try it and report.

MikeHG 2016-03-28 14:59

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Two watchfaces for weather watchers (or just British people ;), both working well with Rockpool.

Hourly Forecast 3 - hourly weather information for the next 6 hours, optionally including temp, precipitation, windspeed / direction, UV, humidity, pressure... (though you're limited in what you can fit on the face at any time).

Forecaswatch - [note the missing 't'] Hourly for 12 hours, including temperature, UV, precipitation, but unfortunately no windspeed. Overview (in the form of a calendar with coloured dots) for the following 9 days.

t3sserakt 2016-09-21 21:51

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
After a reset to factory setting of my Pebble I like to sync again with my Jolla. Pebbled displays me "Your firmware is too old to support SDKv2 applications".

My Jolla is running 2.0.2.51, Pebbled app v1.6-1, Watch Firmware 2.9.1.
The Jolla is connected to my Pebble Steel. I did a factory
reset on the watch, with the watch waiting to be bind to
a Pebble app.

Hope anyone can help.

MikeHG 2016-09-22 04:00

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Pebbled is dead I think (but it lives on in other projects derived from it...)

You should install Rockpool - it supports newer firmware and features, and works extremely well.

Probably wise to uninstall Pebbled first.

MikeHG 2016-12-01 06:11

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Rumours that Pebble are being bought by Fitbit...

http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/11/30/fi...-small-amount/

https://www.ft.com/content/6e8b7772-...c-a77315b68294

Another quote saying existing devices to be 'phased out'.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/30/...buying-pebble/

:eek:

No more updates, one assumes, but they work already...

Amboss 2016-12-01 08:58

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Thats really sad news. So there wont be anything lean out there anymore. Only those oversized 1-day-charge gadgets of the usual OS.

But following the product specs of pebble this is is what I thought myself before too:
Quote:

Since the newest device out of Pebble's HQ is more of a fitness tracker than a smartwatch, it doesn't seem so odd that a company famous for fitness wearables would be interested in snapping it up.
(from engadget article)

MikeHG 2016-12-01 18:26

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
I imagine there will be a few more missteps before Android Wear or Tizen get really polished, but then we'll start seeing them more and more on designs from China, who seem less afraid to experiment with things like supersize battery editions.

Of course it's always a lottery whether you can upgrade the software on their phones without a lot of pain - I wouldn't be surprised if they're 'open source in name only', especially at first. Still, if the bootloader's open, maybe someone can hack something onto them.

Definitely not where we want to be.

MikeHG 2016-12-07 14:47

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Active Pebble watches will work normally for now. Functionality or service quality may be reduced down the road. We don’t expect to release regular software updates or new Pebble features. Our new mission will focus on bringing Pebble’s unique wearables expertise to future Fitbit products. We’re also working to reduce Pebble's reliance on cloud services, letting all Pebble models stay active long into the future.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects.../posts/1752929

Bundyo 2016-12-07 15:05

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Yep, it is over.
https://blog.getpebble.com/2016/12/07/fitbit/

tangent 2017-03-06 23:35

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
When there will be a Sailfish Watch?
As far as I can remember watch SFOS were demoed somewere.

Bundyo 2017-04-26 08:55

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
To liven up this sleeping thread, there are some news around Rebble and a limited custom firmware.

Also an interesting bit around the end about a custom store now possible with the Android and iOS apps, which Rebble might want to use (and so should we at some point).

deutch1976 2017-07-21 09:34

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asa (Post 1501982)
PTR works straight out of the box with RockPool!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...323_110927.jpg

Hi there. Everything realy works on your Pebble Round? Does Pebble 2 works fine aswell? Thought only classic was 100% compatible

MikeHG 2017-08-07 10:57

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Here is someone working on getting the Pebble to talk to Nuance / Dragon's servers.

https://github.com/lupettohf/passaparola

Nonfree obviously, but interesting.

MikeHG 2017-11-21 17:41

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Amazfit Bip.

No, I haven't just tripped over and landed nose first on my keyboard, but thanks for asking. It's a new kinda pebble-alike from Xiaomi and it really is called Amazfit Bip.

45 day battery life (ish), always-on screen, notifications, heart rate and sleep monitoring, GPS, water resistant, but doesn't look like watch apps or custom faces are a possibility. Looks like you can get them for £60 ish, but I'm guessing that's ex. VAT.

Seems people have it working with 'gadgetbridge', which is an aftermarket application that some Android users have been using for Pebbles, so presumably either Rockpool or a similar project could pick it up if they were so inclined.

Anyone know much about these? I haven't looked into it in detail, but it might be a contender when my Pebble finally decides it's had enough...

edit: smart alarm is a significant omission for me. People have worked their way around that on the phone side with Mi bands, and I suppose that could work in principle.

uddeejar 2017-12-21 13:17

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Hello,

I bought a Sony Xperia X and burned Official Sailfish OS on it. Phone is working well.
Now I installed RockPool and tried to pair my phone with my Pebble (Classic) which was working well with my Jolla phone.
I tried to couple the phone with my pebble, which was successfull (without asking or checking a id, simply must confirm at the pebble). But immediatly after I confirmed at the clock the icon disappears from the Sony's screen completly.
So I made a factory Reset on my Pebble so it is waiting to load apps now.
Now i can search again the pebble on bt configuration on Sony but if I try to connect the screen says nearby
"Problem at pairing, ... id is not the same"...
I've never must add a id anywhere before on my Sony nor was shown on my Pebble.

Does anybody has a successulled paired and working pebble with there Sony?

Reboot the Sony does not help.

Thank you for your help.

uddeejar 2017-12-21 13:29

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Hello,

I found the solution here to get a proper bt pairing with my Pebble and my Sony Xperia X:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...post-id-175787

Now all is fine.

Here my log from the console:
[root@Sailfish etc]# hcitool scan
Scanning ...
B0:B4:48:7C:68:B2 Pebble 68B2
00:02:72:1A:6B:19 nihilnihil-2
50:85:69:42:6D:40 [TV]Samsung LED46
[root@Sailfish etc]# hcitool cc B0:B4:48:7C:68:B2
[root@Sailfish etc]# hcitool auth B0:B4:48:7C:68:B2
Not connected.
[root@Sailfish etc]# hcitool cc B0:B4:48:7C:68:B2
^[[A^[[A[root@Sailfish etc]# hcitool auth B0:B4:48:7C:68:B2
*** Error in `hcitool': free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x000ff008 ***
Aborted

Although error occured it was finished successfully. The cc and auth must be run without big pause (as soon as possible).

Caluna 2018-02-16 20:37

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Hi,
does anyone know, if there someone working on Amazfit Bip support? As the Pebble devices getting older and older, Amazfit Bip seems to be a good successor of our beloved Pebbles: I bought one, and battery life time as well as the screen is really amazing (could have been Pebble 3). It would be great, if it would work with Sailfish OS.
Unfortunately, AlienDalvik cannot use Bluetooth, so that the Android Apps (Mi Fit or Gadgetbridge) are not able to communicate with the device (additionally it is doubtful if notifications would work). Any ideas about that?

deprecated 2018-02-16 22:47

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caluna (Post 1541299)
Hi,
does anyone know, if there someone working on Amazfit Bip support? As the Pebble devices getting older and older, Amazfit Bip seems to be a good successor of our beloved Pebbles: I bought one, and battery life time as well as the screen is really amazing (could have been Pebble 3). It would be great, if it would work with Sailfish OS.
Unfortunately, AlienDalvik cannot use Bluetooth, so that the Android Apps (Mi Fit or Gadgetbridge) are not able to communicate with the device (additionally it is doubtful if notifications would work). Any ideas about that?

I have two original Pebble Steels and have purchased six batteries to replace as needed, because I refuse to give up on my Pebble Steel. The Rebble replacement is making swift progress, check out their discord server sometime.

Meanwhile, I can't see any real alternatives on the horizon. If the stack for Bip is open, maybe we can do what was done for rockpool when the ubuntu libpebble was ported over. It's really up in the air right now. If I had a Bip, I'd start working on it, naturally.

Bundyo 2018-04-02 11:46

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
If someone missed this piece of news - Rebble people have a plan:

http://rebble.io/2018/02/15/rebble-web-services.html

feedme 2018-08-22 17:54

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Rebble on sailfish?
No info anywhere and instructions on boot.rebble.io are not for rockpool, but official pebble app.

maerom 2018-08-22 20:40

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by feedme (Post 1547443)
Rebble on sailfish?
No info anywhere and instructions on boot.rebble.io are not for rockpool, but official pebble app.

I think Rockpool is no longer compatible with the new rebble servers. Support of Rockpool seems down. You could try to contact Abranson on openrepos.net, who's the maintainer.

Sent from my F5121 using Tapatalk

snowman74 2018-08-30 16:55

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caluna (Post 1541299)
Hi,
does anyone know, if there someone working on Amazfit Bip support? As the Pebble devices getting older and older, Amazfit Bip seems to be a good successor of our beloved Pebbles: I bought one, and battery life time as well as the screen is really amazing (could have been Pebble 3). It would be great, if it would work with Sailfish OS.
Unfortunately, AlienDalvik cannot use Bluetooth, so that the Android Apps (Mi Fit or Gadgetbridge) are not able to communicate with the device (additionally it is doubtful if notifications would work). Any ideas about that?

Did you check this one out?
https://openrepos.net/content/piggz/amazfish
Please let us know how it works since several Pebble users are considering Amazfit as a follow up device.

;)

Bundyo 2018-08-30 18:42

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
No daemon there yet. Amazfit is rather simplistic compared to Pebble, though it does have amazing battery life and a heart rate reader.

Amboss 2018-08-31 11:34

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Why is everyone always so eager to have body functions measured all the time. I consider a device that monitors my heart rate rather on the no-go-side.

jenix 2018-12-02 08:44

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Seems like the moment I hoped would never come is here. My Pebble time got leaky and moisture inside the device. I'm trying to repair this (removed the front glass, am now drying it and then try to reseal it), but since the battery starts to degrade, it may be time to look for a follow up.

My use case is not super special: I just want a smartwatch to notify me of mails and messages (SMS and from applications), having a (countdown) timer and controlling music playback with it. And of course it should work with my SFOS device.

So, how are your experiences with other smartwatches? I took a look at the Amazfit (which from my understanding has the best SFOS support with Amazfish in OpenRepos), but as far as I understood it, there is no playback control feature (at least not with Amazfish / SFOS).
Are there other smartwatches which fit my demands?

biketool 2018-12-02 09:01

Re: Sailfish / Pebble users' club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jenix (Post 1551350)
Seems like the moment I hoped would never come is here. My Pebble time got leaky and moisture inside the device.(snip)

Assuming you can survive/correct the moisture issue and get your watch re-sealed...
I think I have had mine open, you should be able to ebay/taobao/aliexpress a replacement battery, I think it is soldered down to the board but this is not terribly difficult to do, two wires down to pads or holes. If you don't feel skilled a cellphone repair place should be able to do the soldering for you.


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