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TheKit 2016-08-29 22:40
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1513844)
It's not impossible if you can get general Linux distro running on it. RAM amount might be an issue though.

smatkovi 2016-08-30 10:42
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKit (Post 1513821)
Can you post dmesg output of your tablet after booting? As I said, some hardware might be different.
it's not a deb but there's a filesize limit. it's a plaintext file

TheKit 2016-08-30 13:31
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smatkovi (Post 1513866)
it's not a deb but there's a filesize limit. it's a plaintext file
Sorry, I meant to dump dmesg output right after booting the tablet so it's possible to check hardware initialization logs.

smatkovi 2016-08-30 18:15
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKit (Post 1513875)
Sorry, I meant to dump dmesg output right after booting the tablet so it's possible to check hardware initialization logs.
oh, i rebooted now, here you go :)

smatkovi 2016-09-03 19:25
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
being able to update would be great, sound and multitouch is not that important for me. funfact, i had to buy another tablet and they're both v5 but slightly different in design, the backplate isn't interchangeable and the little slid at the speaker became 2 slids instead of 1^^ i posted the things not working just in case anyone wants to know or do the same i want to do :)

smatkovi 2016-09-04 21:27
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
maybe it's obvious, then tell me, but in case it's not: sound over Bluetooth is working

TheKit 2016-09-07 05:27
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smatkovi (Post 1514214)
being able to update would be great, sound and multitouch is not that important for me. funfact, i had to buy another tablet and they're both v5 but slightly different in design, the backplate isn't interchangeable and the little slid at the speaker became 2 slids instead of 1^^ i posted the things not working just in case anyone wants to know or do the same i want to do :)
I'll look into fixing problems with update/touch screen. Getting sound is harder, since for some reason there is a problem during kernel driver initialization on your hardware:
Code:
[    3.768482] rt5640 2-001c: Failed to set private addr: -121
[    3.783067] rt5640 2-001c: ASoC: mux INR Mux has no paths
[    3.789147] rt5640 2-001c: ASoC: mux INL Mux has no paths

smatkovi 2016-10-02 21:33
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
i had to reinstall and now i had only one partition on the whole usb-key, so i had to use (hd0) instead of (hd0,1)

ferlanero 2016-10-28 14:30
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smatkovi (Post 1516020)
i had to reinstall and now i had only one partition on the whole usb-key, so i had to use (hd0) instead of (hd0,1)
Hi! Any updates about waht is working and what not on this tablet? I have ordered one just now because I want to try Sailfish OS in a tablet :)

TheKit 2016-10-29 20:18
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferlanero (Post 1517611)
Hi! Any updates about waht is working and what not on this tablet? I have ordered one just now because I want to try Sailfish OS in a tablet :)
Did you order Onda V820W or Onda V820W CH? Unfortunately, even if it's Onda V820W, there are at least 3 revisions (V1, V3 and V5) with different hardware. Mine is V3.

ferlanero 2016-10-29 20:26
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
I have ordered Onda V820W V3 :) It arrives on next week :D

So mine will be v3 too, I think we can investigate together. How is the global perform of Sailfish here?

TheKit 2016-10-29 22:21
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferlanero (Post 1517707)
I have ordered Onda V820W V3 :) It arrives on next week :D

So mine will be v3 too, I think we can investigate together. How is the global perform of Sailfish here?
The hardware mostly works, but I need to look into adapting better touch screen driver, as was discussed before, and try to implement OTA.

ferlanero 2016-11-03 19:48
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Hi guys! I'm trying to install your Sailfish port into a Onda v820w v3.

I have downloaded your image from Mega (https://mega.nz/#!8FZRiBwB!FBBD8CUMa...Qp713VqT-FoAhM)

Extracted it into a 4Gb USB 2.0 memory stick, but when I boot from that memory stick (which tablet recognises without any problem), the loader shows:

Code:
error: file /boot/grub/locale/ru.gmo not found
After that, the Grub loads trying to load the "archlinux-2016.08.13-flash-sfos.iso" but it fails again showing the next error:

Code:
error: file '/boot/archlinux-2016.08.13-flash-sfos.iso' not found.
error: disk 'loop' not found.
error: you need to load the kernel first.

Press any key to continue...
I can't figure what is wrong. Can you help me, please?

Thanks in advance!

ferlanero 2016-11-03 20:21
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Ok, first problem solved.

The

Code:
error: file /boot/grub/locale/ru.gmo not found
solved commenting the

Code:
set lang=ru_RU
line in grub.cfg

It should looks like:

Code:
# set lang=ru_RU

ferlanero 2016-11-03 20:34
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Second problem:

Code:
error: file '/boot/archlinux-2016.08.13-flash-sfos.iso' not found.
error: disk 'loop' not found.
error: you need to load the kernel first.

Press any key to continue...
Solved by changing line in grub.cfg

Code:
loopback loop $isofile
by

Code:
loopback loop (hd0,1)$isofile
And naming the USB memory stick as "USB"

ferlanero 2016-11-04 01:18
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
I've just another question: after a succesfull instalation of the port in my Onda v820w v3 :D I received the 2.0.4.14 update. I tryed it, but after instalation, tablet didn't boot up. It stucks in a boot loop, anyone here coud make a successful update?

Thanks for your replies.

juiceme 2016-11-04 07:34
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferlanero (Post 1518015)
I've just another question: after a succesfull instalation of the port in my Onda v820w v3 :D I received the 2.0.4.14 update. I tryed it, but after instalation, tablet didn't boot up. It stucks in a boot loop, anyone here coud make a successful update?
OTA updates on ported devices are usually not a breeze. I have tried that on Hammerhead and usually the results are not satisfactory; Probably the problem is that middleware changes prevent OS higher layer to work when some API's change slightly.

I recommend building it up from scratch, that's what I am doing.

nodevel 2016-11-04 07:51
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1518026)
OTA updates on ported devices are usually not a breeze. I have tried that on Hammerhead and usually the results are not satisfactory; Probably the problem is that middleware changes prevent OS higher layer to work when some API's change slightly.

I recommend building it up from scratch, that's what I am doing.
I don't think this approach applies to Onda, because it is not a ported device in the sense of Hammerhead. It's a device that is closest to the Jolla Tablet, which has multiple implications. The main implication being all the proprietary stuff, which you will never be able to get on Hammerhead, works there out of the box (and that makes it very unique). The other implication is that you can't really build it from scratch, because you don't have sources to the proprietary stuff and you would instantly kill the uniqueness of Onda V820w if you tried to build it without them.

It is however worrying that there are differences between Jolla Tablet and Onda V820w that prevent smooth upgrade process.

ferlanero 2016-11-08 11:15
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1518027)
I don't think this approach applies to Onda, because it is not a ported device in the sense of Hammerhead. It's a device that is closest to the Jolla Tablet, which has multiple implications. The main implication being all the proprietary stuff, which you will never be able to get on Hammerhead, works there out of the box (and that makes it very unique). The other implication is that you can't really build it from scratch, because you don't have sources to the proprietary stuff and you would instantly kill the uniqueness of Onda V820w if you tried to build it without them.

It is however worrying that there are differences between Jolla Tablet and Onda V820w that prevent smooth upgrade process.
That disappoint me :(

smatkovi 2016-11-24 16:34
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferlanero (Post 1518015)
I've just another question: after a succesfull instalation of the port in my Onda v820w v3 :D I received the 2.0.4.14 update. I tryed it, but after instalation, tablet didn't boot up. It stucks in a boot loop, anyone here coud make a successful update?

Thanks for your replies.
hej, we talked about these 3 problems in the first few commnts after the upload of the modified os, we even talked about the singletouch only, do you expierience that too?

ferlanero 2016-11-24 16:48
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smatkovi (Post 1519325)
hej, we talked about these 3 problems in the first few commnts after the upload of the modified os, we even talked about the singletouch only, do you expierience that too?
Yes, only singletouch on my. It'd be great if we could investigate this issues on this tablet because everything else is working great!

feedme 2016-11-24 21:07
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
would this run sfos
http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-v919...t-pc-64gb.html

TheKit 2016-11-25 19:18
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by feedme (Post 1519339)
Not easy. The problem is missing kernel sources. Even though device is similar, no idea what is different in terms of drivers. Kernel bits need to be reverse-engineered, and as tortoisedoc tried on Teclast X98 Kindow, it can be pretty difficult.

Regarding Onda V820W V3, I'm currently trying to fix OTA. The idea is to properly repackage modified files, and see if there is a way to override some Jolla Tablet packages with Onda-specific adaptation during update.

Touch screen is a bigger problem, it seems. Currently open-source https://github.com/onitake/gslx680-acpi driver is used. It reports touch events as-is, without any software interpolation (which in theory should be the task for userspace). However, GSL1680 touch panel hardware is not very precise, so one touch gets reported as multiple touches with slighly different coordinates every time driver gets events from hardware.

The vendor driver for GSL1680 is more complicated, and while there is some source code, it won't work without changes for our device (currently it will crash the kernel). I'll see if I can do something about it, but no promises.

ka9yhd 2016-11-25 23:35
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
The other day I saw this tablet from RCA at Walmart for $34.00. Any thoughts on it running Sailfish?

Chipset Model Number Intel SoFia 3GR 1.2Ghz Quad Core processor.

Doing a search for the specs on this tablet some sites claim it has a MT 8127 Quad core processor which is an Arm 7 processor. So I am not real sure if it is x86 or ARM?

https://rcaav.com/tablets/android/voyager-marshmallow/

theonelaw 2016-11-26 06:15
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Wishing you the very best luck,
But,
https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/ind...t-2254725.html

TheKit 2016-11-26 08:00
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ka9yhd (Post 1519406)
The other day I saw this tablet from RCA at Walmart for $34.00. Any thoughts on it running Sailfish?

https://rcaav.com/tablets/android/voyager-marshmallow/
Did a quick search and found out that at least earlier versions had bootloader locked. Also, even though RCA seems to be based in USA, I couldn't find kernel sources, which is GPL violation (Chinese companies usually don't care though).

hardy_magnus 2016-11-26 09:44
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ka9yhd (Post 1519406)
The other day I saw this tablet from RCA at Walmart for $34.00. Any thoughts on it running Sailfish?

Chipset Model Number Intel SoFia 3GR 1.2Ghz Quad Core processor.

Doing a search for the specs on this tablet some sites claim it has a MT 8127 Quad core processor which is an Arm 7 processor. So I am not real sure if it is x86 or ARM?

https://rcaav.com/tablets/android/voyager-marshmallow/
I was surfing internet and found Ubislate i3G7 tablet with same specs and it has Intel x86 processor, hope it could run SFOS or native linux without android.
http://www.datawind.com/ubislate-i3g7.html

TheKit 2016-11-26 10:44
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hardy_magnus (Post 1519422)
I was surfing internet and found Ubislate i3G7 tablet with same specs and it has Intel x86 processor, hope it could run SFOS or native linux without android.
http://www.datawind.com/ubislate-i3g7.html
The same problems as with the tablet above.

In the meanwhile, I was checking what cheap Intel tablets have their kernel source code available and found this: https://github.com/bq/edison-3-mini. Pretty nice of BQ not only to provide source code, but also scripts for compilation. Porting Sailfish OS to it should be easy, yet, untortunately, BQ Edison 3 Mini is not available outside Spain.

ka9yhd 2016-11-27 01:27
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Thank you for the link and all thoughts on this device. And I will keep my eyes on the forums as to what works with Sailfish.

mrsellout 2016-11-27 13:29
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKit (Post 1519435)
The same problems as with the tablet above.

In the meanwhile, I was checking what cheap Intel tablets have their kernel source code available and found this: https://github.com/bq/edison-3-mini. Pretty nice of BQ not only to provide source code, but also scripts for compilation. Porting Sailfish OS to it should be easy, yet, untortunately, BQ Edison 3 Mini is not available outside Spain.
Is this the same device?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/bq-Edison-...AAAOSwA3dYLjdt

TheKit 2016-11-27 14:32
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1519471)
Seems to be.

ferlanero 2016-12-07 10:51
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smatkovi (Post 1519325)
hej, we talked about these 3 problems in the first few commnts after the upload of the modified os, we even talked about the singletouch only, do you expierience that too?
Yes I do. The singletouch is present on my device too

ferlanero 2016-12-07 10:53
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Would we have last update of Sailfish OS on Onda V820W V3? It would be nice because of good performance of this device with Sailfish :)

TheKit 2016-12-07 15:49
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferlanero (Post 1520174)
Would we have last update of Sailfish OS on Onda V820W V3? It would be nice because of good performance of this device with Sailfish :)
Yeah, I have 2.0.5.6 running already (with the new approach of rebuilt packages), but I need to test it more thoroughly and look for possible upgrade path. Plan to do this on weekends.

ferlanero 2016-12-07 16:00
Re: Sailfish OS on Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKit (Post 1520195)
Yeah, I have 2.0.5.6 running already (with the new approach of rebuilt packages), but I need to test it more thoroughly and look for possible upgrade path. Plan to do this on weekends.
Really good news :D If you need some help with testing, take in mind I have the same device ;)

ferlanero 2016-12-13 11:14
Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 
The perform of the Onda V820W V3 with Sailfish 2.0.5.6 is absolutely incredible. It's an absolute pleasure manage Sailfish in big screens :)

theonelaw 2016-12-14 01:39
Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferlanero (Post 1520490)
The perform of the Onda V820W V3 with Sailfish 2.0.5.6 is absolutely incredible. It's an absolute pleasure manage Sailfish in big screens :)
Does wifi work ?

ferlanero 2016-12-14 08:27
Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theonelaw (Post 1520533)
Does wifi work ?
Absolutely :) Everything works here

smatkovi 2016-12-19 04:36
Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 
for you v3 users, does multitouch work for you?

ferlanero 2016-12-20 00:57
Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smatkovi (Post 1520739)
for you v3 users, does multitouch work for you?
Yes, without any problem after helping of TheKit


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