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juiceme 2017-04-10 05:50

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526703)
I have never see N950 prototype like that very strange what is it? Proto keyboard perhaps.
http://hpics.li/44e56af

Maybe at some point somebody took the keyboard apart, and when quickly needed to pack the device away just slammed the keymat back in place so it went upside down.

juiceme 2017-04-10 05:52

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
About the broken pink Lauta backcover, certainly someone can make a new one by 3d-print, based on the measurements.

n950 2017-04-10 07:37

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1526716)
About the broken pink Lauta backcover, certainly someone can make a new one by 3d-print, based on the measurements.

Do you think it's possible to have the same cover like original same material and Nokia + flash etc...?
Who can do it for me?
What company can print it?

nb. i contact Shapeways and it can't be possible they said me.

I contact dirkvl about 3d model waiting his answer.

juiceme 2017-04-10 09:10

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526719)
Do you think it's possible to have the same cover like original same material and Nokia + flash etc...?
Who can do it for me?
What company can print it?

nb. i contact Shapeways and it can't be possible they said me.

I contact dirkvl about 3d model waiting his answer.

I think the material probably is Polycarbonate which is very durable plastic material. I am not sure who can print Polycarbonate.

The flash assembly is fixed to the cover separately, it is not printed.

What did you exactly ask from Shapeways? How can they answer they cannot make it if you have not modelled it first?

OVK 2017-04-10 09:24

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
This is a nice thread.

However, looking at those pictures makes me a bit sad. "What could have been."

n950 2017-04-10 09:43

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1526720)
I think the material probably is Polycarbonate which is very durable plastic material. I am not sure who can print Polycarbonate.

The flash assembly is fixed to the cover separately, it is not printed.

What did you exactly ask from Shapeways? How can they answer they cannot make it if you have not modelled it first?

Here is my email sent:

Hello,
I have Nokia device.
it's a phone.

I have a breaked rear housing with me.
can you build it for me like the picture attached? exactly the same as the picture with different colors. black, blue and pink. there is plastic and nokia logo etc..
do i need to send you rear cover + device?

Let me know
For how much?

thank you


Here is the answer:

Thanks for your email.

Although we ourselves do not have any designers on staff, we do feature members of our community who you could hire on our Hire a Designer page:
https://www.shapeways.com/hire/designer

Again, to be clear, these are not employees of Shapeways. They are designers from our community who we feature on our site. You could look through this list, find a designer who you would like to work with, and reach out to them about your project.

I hope this helps and I wish you much luck and success with your endeavor!

Adela

nthn 2017-04-10 10:01

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Where in that reply do they say anything about it not being possible?

Thoke 2017-04-10 10:22

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
n950, their answer meant that you have to have a 3d model for the rear housing before they can print it, so they recommended that you contact a designer to make the model. After the model is made they can print it.

n950 2017-04-10 10:29

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1526725)
n950, their answer meant that you have to have a 3d model for the rear housing before they can print it, so they recommended that you contact a designer to make the model. After the model is made they can print it.

Yes sorry my english is not very understandable :(
Who can 3d model my rear cover with precise measures even breaked?
dirkvl doesn't answer me yet.

n950 2017-04-10 13:39

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
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A Beauty little destroyed :(

gerbick 2017-04-10 13:46

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Even with its imperfections, that is a thing of beauty. Seriously upset as to what could have been right now.

Thanks for sharing n950.

juiceme 2017-04-10 15:50

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
It is so beautiful device, I hope you can get dirk or somebody else to model the plastic parts for you!

Some questions;
  • what is the size of the device? (width x height x depth), it looks larger than N950?
  • what is the screen size? (useful display area)
  • what is the display technology, is it OLED or LCD?
  • How much it weights?
  • What is the chipset/cpu?
  • How much core memory, how much flash, does it have sd-card?
  • What are the markings you have covered with white rectangle, does it have some personification or ID numbers there?

n950 2017-04-10 16:11

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
If I have 3D model, what material i will choose for Cover?
https://www.shapeways.com/materials

Boxeri 2017-04-10 16:14

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Really great to finally see one of these. Even if it is in a bad shape. Hopefully n950 is able to make it boot.

BTW, it would be so cool to hear its story. Travels it has had, injuries and all. And whether it truly is the last of its kind or are the others in the wild, living their lives as true outlaws and outcasts. Hopefully not in some dark closet.

n950 2017-04-10 16:21

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1526684)
i can 3d model it for you if you want to get some shapeways model, lemme know

I have sent you an email Dirk.

n950 2017-04-10 16:25

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxeri (Post 1526736)
Really great to finally see one of these. Even if it is in a bad shape. Hopefully n950 is able to make it boot.

BTW, it would be so cool to hear its story. Travels it has had, injuries and all. And whether it truly is the last of its kind or are the others in the wild, living their lives as true outlaws and outcasts. Hopefully not in some dark closet.

Hi,
I want to boot it but impossible without battery.
I need a generic 3.7v battery with matching pins to connect the battery correctly.
Who can build one for me?

gerbick 2017-04-10 16:31

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Stupid question... is it the same battery as in the N9 by any chance?

juiceme 2017-04-10 16:53

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
The shape seem to be more longish than what the N9 battery is shaped like.
@mp107 already mentioned that it might be same as Lumia-900 battery.

Maybe if @n950 could take accurate measurements of the battery enclosure it would be easier to find a fitting replacement...?

pichlo 2017-04-10 19:16

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1526732)
Some questions

Haven't you noticed? n900 never answers any questions. Only asks.

n950 2017-04-10 20:10

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1526742)
The shape seem to be more longish than what the N9 battery is shaped like.
@mp107 already mentioned that it might be same as Lumia-900 battery.

Maybe if @n950 could take accurate measurements of the battery enclosure it would be easier to find a fitting replacement...?

I send device to Dirk tomorrow by DHL express.
He will try to find battery and good connector.

n950 2017-04-10 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1526743)
Haven't you noticed? n900 never answers any questions. Only asks.

Not always.
Sometimes.

n950 2017-04-10 20:11

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1526741)
Stupid question... is it the same battery as in the N9 by any chance?

I am sure the battery need to have 3,7V.

juiceme 2017-04-10 21:19

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
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Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526746)
Not always.
Sometimes.

OK, could this be one of the times to answer questions? :p

I really want to know the physical dimensions of Lauta!

dirkvl 2017-04-11 06:46

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1526751)
OK, could this be one of the times to answer questions? :p

I really want to know the physical dimensions of Lauta!

I'll share

n950 2017-04-11 08:52

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
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Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1526752)
I'll share

Package will leave today my country :)

Roth 2017-04-11 16:43

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526728)

I like that the micro-USB door is centered at the top side of this magenta Lauta. I find that adorable! The SIM tray is placed on the right side with the volume and power buttons. The form factor is like the E7/N950 with N9/Lumia aesthetics; how in landscape mode the display pops upward in a slanted angle and the QWERTY keyboard appears from beneath. It seems to be an all-screen/button-free curved AMOLED (perhaps with ClearBlack Display) with front camera at the top. The rear camera, however, is not centered, but still bares the resemblance as on the N9 and Lumia 800/900 except the dual LED flash is within the oblong-shaped camera badge. Like the N9, it does not seem to have a camera shutter key. Headphone jack and microphone alongside the micro-USB is also similar to the Lumia 900; more convenient when plugged in for a charge or mass storage while in landscape mode. Speaker is typically on the bottom in this era of design. That's neat! Thanks for sharing with us n950. I hope you get this legendary device up and running some day.

NX500 2017-04-11 17:39

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
I could mill you a new case, if you give me the exact dimensions (and I find the time for it.)

Using Shapeways to get the case laser-sintered would probably be faster and cheaper though..

mrsellout 2017-04-11 20:52

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
It would be awesome if you or Dirk could do the other part of the main body and find somewhere to make a keymat too to replicate this sexy proto:https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?qua...ab6c78c5d23721
Quote:

Originally Posted by NX500 (Post 1526770)
I could mill you a new case, if you give me the exact dimensions (and I find the time for it.)

Using Shapeways to get the case laser-sintered would probably be faster and cheaper though..


n950 2017-04-13 09:36

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Package is in Dirk Country :)
I think in some hours he will receive it.

EDIT:

he got it :)

dirkvl 2017-04-13 11:11

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
battery size lxwxh should be ~86.5x27x5

n950 2017-04-13 12:34

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I have 3 lauta in bad conditions.
The 2 others are more bad than the first one (one HW keyboard is missed and one have cable cut under keyboard, etc...)
I have sent today the 2 others Lauta to Dirk. Hope they have Harmattan inside :(

Here is the problem:

Dirk boot the device with his battery.
Device says LOCAL MODE :( what is that?
Between LOCAL and NOKIA there is ILMATAR_10.2010.50-1_ENOSW what is that?

Code:

i2c i2c-1: send data error
i2c i2c-1: mrst_i2c_isr, i2c abort

How to exit local mode?

juiceme 2017-04-13 12:48

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526821)
Device says LOCAL MODE :( what is that?
How to exit local mode?

Could be it means a debug mode.

Alternatives; It might have special test/debug software that only has this mode, so no normal Harmattan at all. Or it might be switched to different mode via flasher. Or something else. :D

n950 2017-04-13 12:57

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1526819)
battery size lxwxh should be ~86.5x27x5

Anybody know what battery (3,7V) can go into the phone? even without good connector.

ajalkane 2017-04-13 13:50

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526821)
Between LOCAL and NOKIA there is ILMATAR_10.2010.50-1_ENOSW what is that?

That's interesting. That may mean these are early Intel MeeGo device prototypes? See here (Section "Soiro" Intel MeeGo):

https://muropaketti.com/artikkelit/t...of-nokia-meego

vitaminj 2017-04-13 14:07

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526821)
Between LOCAL and NOKIA there is ILMATAR_10.2010.50-1_ENOSW what is that?

Ilmatar was the next tradewind in the alphabetic sequence of Tablet/Maemo/MeeGo OSes after Harmattan. I guess it was the same UI as Harmattan but adopting "full" Meego compatibility through using RPM packaging etc. And maybe tablet and keyboard additions to the UX from ajalkane's link (but I assume this would have still been an ARM build).

Makes me chuckle that Nokia was unable to release two devices to consumers using the same OS - that might have made it follow quickly after the N9! No, best re-tool things and make it incompatible with the last one for user confusion and delays! They never learn(t)!

I never understood the big excitement with the whole MeeGo thing anyway. Ok, a unified platform for multiple companies to us would be a good thing, but Nokia were the ones with a proven track record of shipping good and popular devices on their Linux platform, whereas Moblin from Intel's side was never used in anything so widely (afaik). I just feel like Nokia wasted their time trying to merge with something not very well proven and got no benefits from it.

n950 2017-04-13 14:13

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1526825)
That's interesting. That may mean these are early Intel MeeGo device prototypes? See here (Section "Soiro" Intel MeeGo):

https://muropaketti.com/artikkelit/t...of-nokia-meego

What does that mean? Harmattan is not installed on this device? It's impossible to install harmattan on this device?

velox 2017-04-13 14:27

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526827)
What does that mean? Harmattan is not installed on this device? It's impossible to install harmattan on this device?

That means harmattan is most likely not installed on the device. At least it's not exactly the same thing as the one you know. I think no one here can tell you what the exact differences are. If you're lucky they only changed the name at that point, because it's supposedly made directly after the n9. ;)

This does not mean that it's theoretically impossible to install harmattan. Nor does it mean that it's possible. (Not much help, I know.)

gerbick 2017-04-13 15:33

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Wow. This is actually cool. Funny how this is running an OS that was probably never released - now... there's gotta be at least ONE ex-Nokian that has something laying around that may be of some help here.

Do it all anonymously btw.

ajalkane 2017-04-13 16:26

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1526827)
What does that mean? Harmattan is not installed on this device? It's impossible to install harmattan on this device?

If it's really Intel device then for sure you can't just install Harmattan on it from available images as they're for ARM processors.

If it's one of those Ilmatar devices with Intel processor on them it might be much more interesting, if you get it booting, than having just Harmattan there.

n950 2017-04-13 16:37

Re: Nokia Lauta RM-742
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1526831)
If it's really Intel device then for sure you can't just install Harmattan on it from available images as they're for ARM processors.

If it's one of those Ilmatar devices with Intel processor on them it might be much more interesting, if you get it booting, than having just Harmattan there.


How to know what device is it?
Do you think i can go out local mode? perhaps flasher -i command will inform us about os version like with N9.
If it's Ilmatar device is it possible to flash with harmattan PR1.3 image for n9/50?


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