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Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by jzencovich (Post 78904)

by the way Tex, i think your text is slanted not from your inability to discuss certain subjects, but from your use of italics.

Just an observation :)

ROFL!

Good one!

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by Garage Battle (Post 78903)

Dear Nokia Development Team (or whom it may concern):

Most companies have mobile internet wrong. The internet is not designed for tablets, UMPC's, etc. Same thing with cell phones.

The power of portability comes in applications. I dont want to goto maps.google.com. That website expects me to me on a 1ghz+ computer with 512 ram. BUT, Google Mobile Maps application (for cell phones, PDA's) and the iPhone Google Maps application, are designed for portable usage. Same thing with the Gmail app, and the iPhone Youtube application.

So, to make this easy:

1. Port over a version of google maps for the new tablet.

2. Give us a Gmail app, a Flickr app, Myspace, and maybe Facebook.

3. Design a template, and maybe a Design Suite for users to create their own websites that will be directly compatible with the next tablet.

4. Tabbed browsing

5. If it will have a keyboard, then it will need AIM, Yahoo IM, and MSN. At least AOL IM.

Mobile computing is done through touch. We cannot avoid the internet, but when we can take the important parts, and make them into useful applications, we all win.

I'd rather not use apps and just use the full versions on a web browser just as I already do on the N800. We already have AIM, Yahoo and MSN, by the way.

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 78906)

ROFL!

Good one!

My wry humor may not be the best, but I try :)

Jon

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by Garage Battle (Post 78903)

2. Give us a Gmail app, a Flickr app, Myspace, and maybe Facebook.

I'm afraid that instead of that Nokia will just launch their own (and quite probably isolated/crappy) version of these as part of the grand Ovi strategy. Why is it so difficult for companies to understand that we want to use the web services that we already use and where our friends are?

Of course, Nokia could surprise us positively, and generate a cool, mobile-friendly UI that would still let us stay in touch with the community sites we've been using all along. Flickr integration etc...

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Originally Posted by Garage Battle (Post 78903)

3. Design a template, and maybe a Design Suite for users to create their own websites that will be directly compatible with the next tablet.

At this point following Apple's guidelines is most likely a safe bet. That way your mobile site will work nicely with both iPhone and the S60 browser.

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by Garage Battle (Post 78903)

Dear Nokia Development Team (or whom it may concern):

So, to make this easy:

1. Port over a version of google maps for the new tablet.
2. Give us a Gmail app, a Flickr app, Myspace, and maybe Facebook.
3. Design a template, and maybe a Design Suite for users to create their own websites that will be directly compatible with the next tablet.
Mobile computing is done through touch. We cannot avoid the internet, but when we can take the important parts, and make them into useful applications, we all win.

As my personal opinions:

3. is not a good idea. It's been tried in the past several times and it always eventually fails. People want "the real website", not a slimmed down version. And then, nobody wants to develop and maintain two versions of a huge website. Of course this is not black and white. A good web site detects the browser that is being used and perhaps configures its offerings (UI etc.) to better suit that target device. But "own websites" - I don't think so. Perhaps iPhone will prove me long in the short term, but I think the Internet will prove the iPhone wrong in the long term. :) People want to access the real sites with the real content. Devices come and go, it is really unfeasible for developers to create custom versions for any device. Perhaps if one device would have 50% of market share, but otherwise not.

2. What would actually be a Facebook application? If not the Facebook site itself? (If not considering now the applications inside Facebook...) Or what would be a Myspace app?

And wouldn't it be obsolete once it is released? What happens when Myspace gains the next killer feature? Apps don't get new features automatically, but web sites and web services do.

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by ragnar (Post 78922)

2. What would actually be a Facebook application? If not the Facebook site itself? (If not considering now the applications inside Facebook...) Or what would be a Myspace app?

I would love to see social networking data from the various services I'm using (the ones that have an API at least) integrated into the address book a bit like Jaiku Mobile does on S60. You know, enhancing the address book with status information, location, travel plans, ...

Then again, since the address book is just an e-d-s front-end, this should be possible to do as a separate project outside Nokia.

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by bergie (Post 78921)

I'm afraid that instead of that Nokia will just launch their own (and quite probably isolated/crappy) version of these as part of the grand Ovi strategy.

Like Mosh?

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 78910)

I'd rather not use apps and just use the full versions on a web browser just as I already do on the N800. We already have AIM, Yahoo and MSN, by the way.

lol honestly.

if the n800 has the processing power of a cheap laptop, then this would be totally feasible. sad fact, it doesnt.

heres the other thing. if you are so hard up to use the full version of the site, then you will still be able to, just point the browser there. some of us are on the run, and we want our data fast, simple, and effective. my little nokia phone's google maps program runs circles around the full site on the n800. i actually prefer it 10 to 1.

and no, we dont have aim, msn, and yahoo, we have some ported/hand made version that does not have the refinement of the sidekick versions.

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

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Originally Posted by ragnar (Post 78922)

the sad fact is, the internet is not designed for 800x480, and a slow processor/low memory situation. it is also not designed for fingers.

sidekick, for example, just launched a myspace app for their hardware. check the vid:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7jbjZ60KipI

its important because not only is it fast, but it integrated. youtube on iphone for example:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qObhmS8zX...elated&search=

google maps mobile on a motorola q:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=98NPPptZcqE

the important thing is, you can still use those sites like normal. BUT, if you have never learned to use programs like Google Maps Mobile, you wont understand why its so important. it just works that well.

Re: Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC

Hopefully, this new device can play all usual video formats in native speed (http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/Ca.../MVI_0709.AVI), supports sdhc and usb-host...
And without a gaming cam like on the N800...