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qgil 2009-09-26 18:29
Re: Closed Source Packages in Maemo
 
R-R, if you look at TI, Marvel, Qualcomm, Imagination, ARM and etc you will see that even if the visible business is to sell hardware, there is also business around drivers, patents, specifications, particular implementations...

It's a complicated world and, indeed, it's changing. The push of Intel to mobile hardware is part of that change as well, since they come with a different approach.

Going back to my point (Nokia is doing a lot pushing OSS and "gets it" quite well), you see that Maemo has already links with most of these players. If you see changes in the following years have no doubt that Nokia, Maemo, Symbian and Qt had got their contribution to the process.

allnameswereout 2009-09-26 18:55
Re: Closed Source Packages in Maemo
 
korbee... exactly 0 iPhone 'clones' run OSX. They run for example Windows CE. The cloning refers to the way the phone looks. The eye candy. No way, it refers to the features the phone provides. Many don't even have 3G! See this list for example.

korbé 2009-09-26 19:33
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 334339)
korbee... exactly 0 iPhone 'clones' run OSX. They run for example Windows CE. The cloning refers to the way the phone looks. The eye candy. No way, it refers to the features the phone provides. Many don't even have 3G! See this list for example.
I don't say they are OSX. :confused:
Where have you read this?

johnkzin 2009-09-26 19:51
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Originally Posted by korbé (Post 334282)
same functionalities
Not even close.

R-R 2009-09-26 22:20
Re: Closed Source Packages in Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 334331)
R-R, if you look at TI, Marvel, Qualcomm, Imagination, ARM and etc you will see that even if the visible business is to sell hardware, there is also business around drivers, patents, specifications, particular implementations...

It's a complicated world and, indeed, it's changing. The push of Intel to mobile hardware is part of that change as well, since they come with a different approach.
Well i guess I'll have to go read a bit more about all this :-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 334331)
Going back to my point (Nokia is doing a lot pushing OSS and "gets it" quite well), you see that Maemo has already links with most of these players. If you see changes in the following years have no doubt that Nokia, Maemo, Symbian and Qt had got their contribution to the process.
Yep, I'm glad we've had this discussion, I get the feeling Nokia is going in the right direction somehow!

Cheers! :-)

danramos 2009-09-26 22:42
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Dammit.. where can I get these Chinese iPhones made with macodity parts?? ;)

yukop4 2009-09-26 23:47
Re: Closed Source Packages in Maemo
 
first off it is spelt open sauce and not open source -the sauce is obtained at low cost and used primarily to make the hardware more tasty while keeping the cost factor down-this dubious marketing stratergy is doomed because the sauce cannot keep pace with hardware development and rapid technology advancement leading to hardware using software that is defective -hardware companies escape crititism because it is after all "open sauce"

R-R 2009-09-27 00:09
Re: Closed Source Packages in Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 334516)
first off it is spelt open sauce and not open source -the sauce is obtained at low cost and used primarily to make the hardware more tasty while keeping the cost factor down-this dubious marketing stratergy is doomed because the sauce cannot keep pace with hardware development and rapid technology advancement leading to hardware using software that is defective -hardware companies escape crititism because it is after all "open sauce"
I sometime wish this forum had a rating system like slashdot so we could mod such comments as a boring redundant uneducated flamebait...
At least try trolling cleverly :rolleyes:

SD69 2009-09-28 14:29
Re: Closed Source Packages in Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 334331)
R-R, if you look at TI, Marvel, Qualcomm, Imagination, ARM and etc you will see that even if the visible business is to sell hardware, there is also business around drivers, patents, specifications, particular implementations...

It's a complicated world and, indeed, it's changing. The push of Intel to mobile hardware is part of that change as well, since they come with a different approach.
Indeed, the hardware level is a different world. As to Intel, they are embracing open source in several areas (and I think the Nokia/Intel cooperation will be a big ++ for advancing handheld computing), but I don't know that they are doing so in the hw adaptation layer (If they are). Not a criticism of Intel at all, it just seems that your comment implied that (or does "different approach" mean something else?)

korbé 2009-09-28 19:04
Re: Closed Source Packages in Maemo
 
A small but very good article by Glyn Moody to read carefully.


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