Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

Why ban him?

Simply display this message to anyone trying to install his program:

"This package runs script that can send all sensitive information on the device (passwords, contacts, etc.) to the developer. The developer has indicated that he believes that if he can do that, it is moral for him to do that. Are you sure you want to install this package?"

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

Except that in no way has any bearing on what actually happened and is a gross overstatement of the worst kind of FUD

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

But with closed-source software being tested by the community, it could have happened, not that I agree that we should do anything further.

In all, I think this thread has outlived it's usefulness.

We all agree that the developer did something against the spirit of the community.
We've all had our chance to have a little moral outrage - and hopefully gotten it off of our chests.

We all know that Nokia does need to get it's Ovi store sorted out to provide some non-community review of commercial applications, because not everyone that wants to develop for us is going to want to give us their code to inspect.

Fortunately the developer didn't do anything malicious, and now we've seen that it can be done we'll be safer for next time.

He has apologized, and hopefully we've not scared him off completely, because we do need developers (both free and commercial) in order for this platform to thrive.

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

If it turns out that he's not coming back, then this must be considered as a huge step backwards for the platform's future success.

I'm considering of making a petition thread for Sio2 to come back - considering how much work he's put on this project, and of his own will too (unlike the other companies with strong Nokia-relations).

It would be really sad if a small joke like this would decide Maemo's and Sio2's short-term future.

Seriously people, get over it! If you don't want his work, then you can pass - but don't force everyone to do the same. Despite of what he's done, I still think his games should be welcomed to Extras as a place-holder until Ovi Store will be ready (which should be very soon, as PR1.1.1 enables paid apps).

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

Come one, come all... let's all flog it once more...

http://archive.perfectduluthday.com/...dead-horse.gif

Seriously, let's start to wrap this up.

Make your final argument; think carefully of what you're trying to achieve and how it figures in to the community's interest at large.

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

Agreed.

As hard as it is to swallow, the overall best reaction instead of exploiting is to fight HARD for system and process improvement. If everyone went undercover through exploits, then the systemic issues don't get the proper attention/fixes and ultimately your system will fail.

That said, I will give the developer credit for his apology and willingness to work within the infrastructure going forward.

EDIT: I typed the last part too soon, sorry.

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

Uh, didn't he say he shouldn't be blamed and wouldn't develop for the N900 any more?

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

After reading a little over 70% of the posts (yes, I had no patience to read all:)), only have two things to say:

1:
Dear sio2interactive, I really was very upset with what you did, but I accept the apology and I hope that you continue with us (I believe that everyone should have a second chance). I think we all have learned something from all that was said here in all these posts.

2:
Our platform at the moment needs all good soul willing to support it, either with free software or paid. I still believe blindly in the ability of this community and Maemo5 and wish you keep believing in them as well and from now on, through the right way, continue with us.

ps: Sorry for my English, I speak only Portuguese natively. I hope everyone understood me.

Marcelo Chaves

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

Ultimately and unfortuntely IMO, yes.

Re: SIO2 Interactive spamming votes to get his/her applications to Extras
 

Bingo!

The issue isn't that our system is broken. If he had followed the procedure and his code was good, his games would have been promoted.

The fact that Nokia's OVI store is broken also doesn't justify circumventing our system.

Our system was designed by, and based on, the good faith of the community.This good faith is extended equally to each member of the community until cause has been given to revoke it individually.

Cause to revoke the communities good faith in this individual should be based on the fact that he registered 10 different member names in order to receive 10 times the good faith you or I receive.

The fact that he produces excellent 3D games or that he exposed a weakness that needs to be addressed is irrelevant.
In this case the end does not justify the means.

What happens now? We move on. The future status of this individual with regard to this community lies with the Community Council and not with a bunch of yahoos like us throwing stones.

(Although I do enjoy a good public stoning. You should get there early before all the decent sized rocks are gone. :) )

We should also realize that this exploit of the communities faith was simply multiple log ons and take steps to prevent it in the future.