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wmarone 2010-06-10 22:55

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 709617)
I was talking about the tablet UX, not the netbook one.

Ah, sorry about that. I suspect that since there's no MeeGo image yet, it'll be released alongside an image (much like the next N900 release later this month) at the same site as the links I posted.

qgil 2010-06-11 05:15

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 709599)
I saw some very convincing videos and pictures about the MeeGo tablet user experience.

Hi, this thread is about making MeeGo-Harmattan to run in the N900. If you want to discuss the MeeGo Tablet UX a good place is the Tablet forum at forum.meego.com.

Venemo 2010-06-11 09:35

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 709873)
Hi, this thread is about making MeeGo-Harmattan to run in the N900. If you want to discuss the MeeGo Tablet UX a good place is the Tablet forum at forum.meego.com.

Sorry, I got a little confused with the names...
But thanks for the link!

depu 2010-06-11 18:30

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Since Meego-Harmattan isnt an officially supported platform on the N900, can someone confirm if we can dual boot a Maemo 5 and the Meego-Harmattan system?

As much as i would like a Meego System running on my N900 i would like to have a fully (or semi) functional(Maps and other Nokia closed source apps) handheld device for occasional use.

fatalsaint 2010-06-11 18:32

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by depu (Post 710970)
Since Meego-Harmattan isnt an officially supported platform on the N900, can someone confirm if we can dual boot a Maemo 5 and the Meego-Harmattan system?

As much as i would like a Meego System running on my N900 i would like to have a fully (or semi) functional(Maps and other Nokia closed source apps) handheld device for occasional use.

Meego-Harmattan doesn't even really exist yet. It's all theory to this point. So the firm answer is unknown.

However, I would find it very likely that someone figures out how to dual boot pretty much any of the 3 OS's being worked on (M5, MeeGo and MH).

Jaffa 2010-06-13 13:01

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 675523)
In short, this thread is about creating a Hacker/Community edition for the N900 of the OS and apps that Nokia will ship in the first device based on MeeGo.

Will the infrastructure which was worked on/designed for Mer's images be available here? (i.e. to allow closed source stuff to be combined and shipped)

Let's assume some form of MeeGo Core and Handset UX is working on the N900. Your comment above suggests not taking the MeeGo reference apps for phone calls, conversation etc. (assuming there are some); but taking the Harmattan Nokia apps for those tasks?

If I'm understanding correctly, getting them running with a copy of a Harmattan device's OS is a different question to making such a hybrid MeeGo/Harmattan image distributable to users.

w00t 2010-06-13 13:21

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 713102)
Let's assume some form of MeeGo Core and Handset UX is working on the N900. Your comment above suggests not taking the MeeGo reference apps for phone calls, conversation etc. (assuming there are some); but taking the Harmattan Nokia apps for those tasks?

The two are different tasks, are they not?

A fully open MeeGo image is going to be different from Harmattan, which is likely to be much more like M5 than MeeGo - full of closed Nokia apps like maps.

That's what I was assuming this thread was discussing, at least..

Jaffa 2010-06-13 13:40

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 713118)
A fully open MeeGo image is going to be different from Harmattan, which is likely to be much more like M5 than MeeGo - full of closed Nokia apps like maps.

That's what I was assuming this thread was discussing, at least..

That what I assumed too. So, my point was "if a community supported release is viable, how will it be distributed?"; with a side-point of "what's the base OS onto which said Nokia bits would be closed, the full Harmattan stack or MeeGo (or even Fremantle)?"

w00t 2010-06-13 13:58

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 713144)
That what I assumed too. So, my point was "if a community supported release is viable, how will it be distributed?"; with a side-point of "what's the base OS onto which said Nokia bits would be closed, the full Harmattan stack or MeeGo (or even Fremantle)?"

OK, I see your point now.

I'd *guess* that at least to start with, it'll be Harmattan itself. Trying to port closed applications either backwards (to Fremantle) or forward (to MeeGo) is probably going to involve headaches.

Hopefully, it will be possible, though, as I'd quite like the idea of being able to shoehorn the useful closed bits of Harmattan into MeeGo, purely for the possibility to have a more up to date, futureproof base system.

(for third party app developers/appstores, they won't really be keeping Harmattan compatibility in mind, I think.. so there will be a time when, regardless of how nice Harmattan is as a base system, you'll want to migrate)

qgil 2010-06-13 20:08

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
This is about making MeeGo-Harmattan (deb based, including Nokia closed apps) in the N900. The very same MeeGo-Harmattan that will run on the new devices shipping this OS out of the box. Any difference should be based on a technical compromise. It should be ABI compatible with MeeGo-Harmattan so the same binaries in Ovi Store and Extras would be installable and functional.

How exactly will it be distributed? I don't know at this point. Tero and Carsten are the ones to have the initiative.


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