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Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by anthonie (Post 1293785)

You seem to have completely missed the point of what I was trying to say. It's not about competition or what device is best for whom. All I care about is what I need, what I need to get done and how I can best achieve that.

If I want to operate my N900 whilst standing on both my hands in upside-down position, so be it. If I feel my needs are best served by using a full fledged desktop application on my phone, than so be it.

You on the other hand, seem to have a pretty biased view on how, when and under what circumstances device x or y is to be used. And that's why you sound just like these silly teachers that couldn't deal with a little kid that preferred to sit differently on a chair than others.

So my final question ought to be; Are you a member of the smartphone-police and if so, can I see your badge?

I told you I was just joking around with you - but if you want to get serious, if your a technical director of a telecommunications company, you code, and you are in a board meeting shouldn't you of had a laptop with you?

Your example was valid, I will give you that, but it is the kind of example where you have to say, "wait a second!" the same way you do when you ask a gun nut, "Why do you need so many AK-47s?" and then he shows you how to light a cigarette off of one and then he gives you many other reasons that are pretty implausible.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by xxxxts (Post 1293775)

IA great deal of people have ditched their laptop/netbook for a tablet. iPad/Android. That's a fact, you can look at the market, you can see what people are buying and not buying.

The iPad/Android tablets are being used by MANY as replacements and doing real work already. You're trying to make it happen when it is already being done. iOS on the iPhone vs iPad is pretty much the same, only thing that has changed is form factor. No one is going to deny it is harder doing things on a smaller form factor.

My iPhone is coming VERY close to replacing my Samsung Q1U UMPC.

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Originally Posted by xxxxts (Post 1293789)

Why do you sometimes consider mobile devices "laptop replacements" yet on other posts you do not?

As I said, we _try to_ use our devices as replacements. Because we fully understand, the moment a reasonable docking scheme exists, the days of the workstation are over. When that happens you'll see how much of your work is "video editing & multimedia" and how much is "rest of stuff that your iPad can't even dream of doing".

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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I had a laptop with me, but being a tech nerd I wanted to make a point; One of the non-tech boardmembers was seriously advocating the purchase of software to achieve the creation of a specific kind of soundfiles.

A €.500,- device that fits in my pocket turned out to be able to do just the same thing as a commercial company was offering us as by means of a monthly paid service. I like to believe I made my point much stronger by using my phone, rather than my laptop.

So, what's your badge number?

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1293794)

Why do you sometimes consider mobile devices "laptop replacements" yet on other posts you do not?

That's a very valid question. Sometimes they are and sometimes they are not. My N900 has traveled to the jungles of South America, Italy, Canada, and through the Rockie Mountains (no connectivity) in CO. It was not able to perform up to par. My UMPC Needed to come along.

Few reasons:

1) Lack of social networking capability - to arrange meetings and such I used Facebook (this was before a decent client was released) was not a pleasant experience on the N900. It was too expensive to make phone calls.

2) Lack of RJ45 jack - all the hotels I staid in throughout Italy primarily used RJ45 jacks.

3) Keeping updated with my friends in the states via Facebook - once again not possible.

4) Online banking, it needed to be done and doing it on the N900 over South America's WiFi was horrid.

I could go on.

For a 5 day trip in the states my iPhone servers me pretty well regardless of my WiFi situation. I am able to keep up with all my friends via every social media network there is (even the ones I don't use), keep up with news/current events (where as Maemo had just one AP News), handle my finances, shop around/navigate a foreign city using the many apps (Yelp, AroundMe, Waze, etc.) and Siri.

There's a phrase, "Where's the train?" when you look at someone who is rushing. Well many times I find myself in that situation only the train is not proverbial. I might be late for a meeting in a city I have never been to before, these are things that my N900 has failed on me before.

I would say it would be a replacement for a trip over seas but only with WiFi because data costs would be too expensive.

The things I would want to do, that requires a laptop/UMPC/dexktop would be to Photoshop some photos and review them before posting them on a larger screen before posting them, maybe fine tune videos before I upload them (I am just guessing because I don't have that much experience with video editing on the iPhone), there is no need to sync with iTunes since everything is synced with iCloud so I don't need/want to do that, maybe triple check documents I have written on Word on my PC just to make sure it came out alright since I am new to iWorks. But honestly, I think the most important thing would be to rest my eyes from staring at a 3.5" screen for so long and have that comfort of Windows 7 back with a full keyboard and mouse and my 67 tabs open.

To contrast: I couldn't upload my videos taken on my trips to YouTube or Facebook with my N900 on the go, I needed a computer to do that, I can't even remember posting photos to Facebook or not. I am also a horrible speller so spell check is a MUST for me (cannot live without).

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by anthonie (Post 1293798)

You just proved my point, you had your laptop with you - but you just wanted to show off what you could do with your mobile device. Cool. Could it have been done if an iPhone/Android was there instead of an N900? Yes. Could it have been done quicker on your laptop? Most likely. You just wanted to show off.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by xxxxts (Post 1293706)

iFile does everything midnight commander can do
metasploit can be had on the iPhone
Paros is comparable to wireshark on the iPhone.
photorec is on the iPhone
aircrack-ng is on the iPhone
and mplayer - really? The iPhone already has hundreds apps that handle media much more efficiently.

Do a Google search.

"Name me one of these powerful desktop applications running on a mobile device that there isn't a mobile application out there for." quoteing you here, i didnt say those applications arent available on the iphone BUT THOSE ARE DESKTOP APPLICATIONS YOU JACKASS
and no, those alternatives you mention arent as good as ones i mentioned, even thou they are comparable(everything is comparable...)

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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As for the store by anthonie - that was a good example. And once the meeting was over it only took you 10 min to open Fennec, go to Facebook, and post a status update (without spell check) about how good a job you did on that one occurrence. (I'm just messin' with you!)

You seriously need to go back to school and learn how to spell if you so happen to rely massively on a crappy spell check. That's the most pathetic criticism I've heard in ages.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1293811)

You seriously need to go back to school and learn how to spell if you so happen to rely massively on a crappy spell check. That's the most pathetic criticism I've heard in ages.

It has nothing to do with my education, some people are naturally bad spellers. I have trouble. Einstein did as well. It really has no relation to intelligence or education. On my PC I sometimes have to use Firefox spell check and Google to make sure I spelled a word correctly. On iOS 5.1.1 I use Siri when a word is that hard for me.

I mostly have trouble with non-Latin based words, mostly.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by GrimyHR (Post 1293810)

Okay, first off no need for name calling

iFile = MC on iOS
Paros = wireshark on iOS.

I don't know much about WiFi cracking so research metasploit, photorec, and aircrack-ng. (all can be had on iOS)

iPhone default media player > mplayer on a mobile device. The iPhone was made due to the iPod.

I've also been around the Maemo community a VERY long time (I don't belong to any Apple/iPhone/iOS communities) to see the question asked so many times, "Is there anyway to get that on the N900?" That Android WiFi cracking program comes to mind.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900

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Originally Posted by xxxxts (Post 1293808)

That's not what anthonie said. He said it was a demo for a board meeting about capabilities of mobile devices. How better to demonstrate said capabilities than by pulling a mobile device out of his pocket?