Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1372680)

Remember, the reason why the Sony Playstation even exists today was because Nintendo (in the 90's) refused to make a CD system add-on for the Super Famicom/SNES or make a system based on disc games. Sony turned around and made their OWN Super Nintendo CD add-on for disc based games and then when they realized what they'd done, turned around and made their own game console BASED on discs--VOILA, the Playstation was born to compete with Nintendo. Nintendo was arrogant enough to stick to their cartridge-based guns, tried to scam Silicon Graphics Inc (SGI) to make a MIPS-based custom CPU/GPU chip for their new console and released the Nintendo 64... and proceeded to lose a LOT of money on each console while making it expensive and difficult to release the larger CD-based third-party games for it.

Basically, this isn't the first time Nintendo's nearly gone out of business because of their arrogance. Much like I'd been saying about Nokia for years: They aren't listening to their customers and giving them what they want. There's where Nokia and Nintendo are eerily repeating the same mistakes lately.

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1372761)

Nokia was working on a tablet back in 2010 but elop killed at on day one he joined Nokia. i wonder what board of directors of Nokia were doing when Elop was killing Nokia.

http://mynokiablog.com/2013/09/06/in...he-became-ceo/

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1371774)

The chart clearly shows: NOKIA was on a downward slope before Elop. He could not reverse the drop. Actually it was his predecessor that presided over the largest drop in value.

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1372788)

Not true. Nokia was making increasing profits before Elop started really his mole work as a Trojan Horse:

http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...far-worse.html

http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...9f49eb2970c-pi

The stock share value was a different thing and was under manipulation by US funds (where NSA and Microsoft were behind)

Fidelity Magellan and other US funds cornered Nokia in the spring of 2010. Then in June Vanjoki was going to be the next CEO, but "the corner" forced Ollila to take Elop and Vanjoki was cancelled.

Then in the autumn of 2010, Magellan sold all its stocks away lowering the share price even lower helping Elop to reason Symbian and Meego must be killed and Nokia must start to be slave for Microsoft. (the diagram from Morningstar Direct)

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1372161)

Trojans like Android/iOS/WP are their users' problem. We're thinking about FOSS solution with no Trojans built in into the drivers etc.

Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1372719)

Funny, I do not know but do you also see any resemblance in Jolla / NOKIA story here? ;)

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1372761)

Nokia was working on a tablet back in 2010 but elop killed at on day one he joined Nokia. i wonder what board of directors of Nokia were doing when Elop was killing Nokia.

http://mynokiablog.com/2013/09/06/in...he-became-ceo/

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1372800)

I hope Jolla gets it right, FOSS all the way, but if not, Replicant Android is the better way to get possibly NSA-free operating system:

http://replicant.us/

For example for Android Samsung Galaxy S3:
http://redmine.replicant.us/projects.../wiki/GalaxyS3

Only way to get NSA-free operating system, is to have 100% FOSS OS. Then there still is the hardware backdoors for NSA, but hopefully with a firewall settings those can be blocked.

Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1372584)

BB10 is not top notch, no issue there. And yes I have devved on it too. The only cool thing is that it has somewhat goot QT support (except QML).

Can you detail why you think N9 was a dead end?