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Xperia X with case, 229 g.
Planet Gemini, 300 g.

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I only get 180 for my Xperia X with a Ringke case.

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Well even the muuuuuuuuch smaller N900 weighs 180g, so who cares...
I see it positive. If I need a hammer and there is none ... :D:p

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Hey Fellfrosch, you are exactly 1000 after me :)
(I ordered at 1730 last night.)

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Almost wish they used lighter materials like plastic... Yes you can still make a plastic device feel premium - soft touch finishes, metal accents, etc
I wonder if they will partner with any local stores. I'd really like to demo the device before I buy it

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Even so I agree with you, that it is not so hard to make a phone of plastic without feeling cheap. I don't think you would gain more than 20 g. The slider has to be made of metal, otherwise it wouldn't be durable.
Than you have the keyboard which weighs some grams. The screen weighs, the battery weighs...

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Still this phone has the footprint of most plus sized phones plus the keyboard. Even if they saved 20g, every gram counts when you have to lug it around.
Lighter materials could've helped lower cost too maybe

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But would you be able to tell 20g difference yourself, without relying on scales to measure it? I don't think even 100g would make a big difference to those who long waited for keyboard slider phone.

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I'd love to go and try one of these out. I don't know many techies or mechanical engineers who could resist that lovely snappy hinge mechanism. So satisfying, even just in a video. Especially after years and years of boring flat slab flagships.

Sadly I will have to wait before I buy one of these - I needed a new phone a few months back and bought a Sony Xperia XA2 which should last me a while (and met the tight budget constraints) but brings me little joy.

One day!

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Maybe they can do an event at their office in London to show off the phone and sell merch, I would certainly go.

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Is GPU supported by Freedreno?

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It is Adreno 540, so it should be as Adreno 5xx series is supported, but Freedreno won't work with the downstream kernel and would require mainlining.

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We are actually planning doing a separate event this spring in London, with all Team F(X) and the stable unit, and invite our community and friends around to play / feel it. (And drinks, of course.)

I also believe trying product in hand will make a difference.

It's still very early and this is again, part being my personal thoughts. So that's not official. But I will make that happen. :)

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Another write up. https://liliputing.com/2019/02/fxtec...y-for-649.html

You guys are getting great traction. Hopefully your product is not copied too quickly to give you time to reap the rewards of the risk.

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You do realize that all these news articles are posted on the first post, right? :D

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Nope. Who looks at the first page anymore :D.

Thanks for the heads up, surprising that I found one you didn't already.

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Great idea!
If you organize a parking lot so i can go by van, i'd sponsor the catering.

Thank you for the work HtheB. I have not even found halve of them without the list. It gets difficult to see if new ones are already listed :D

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That's a great idea!!! Trying out master chef Mosen's sushi is sort of my short term dream. :D

If you come to London then you are our guest and we do want to ensure a great hospitality. ;) Maybe a 2nd party later at Mosen's kitchen in Germany when the QWERTZ layout is made. :p Yay!!

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Düsseldorf Airport is 10 minutes from my shop. Anytime :p

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Hi there. Nice product and finally something all n900 fans were asking for a long time. I have one question about the sound quality of the stereo speakers. Will it be comparable to something like an Alcatel Idol 3 ou an samsung s9, or more like a n900, were the speakers are stereo but with low bass? To what can you compare it? Thanks again for all the awesome work

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This is a very good questions. To answer it in short, maybe I will do in bullet points:

- We have put 2 identical speakers (SP-1069) into the 2 short sides of the device (Similar to N900, personally really loved)
- Some space was left inside the device around each speaker for the sound resonance.
- Wiring distances were kept the same to the mainboard to ensure they come out the same and get the same current in accurate details.

The above only covers hardware bit. When it is down to sound level, as you said, for instance bass level effect, also related to the algorithm and how it was tuned by software. It depend on the user case and circumstances you use. For example, if you want to have a clearer voice on conference call, it would be tuned to boost the middle of the frequencies instead of top or bottom.

We aim to give a all-round experience with the speakers. Low bass will be looked into, but that will not be the "only" fact to tune the stereo speaker.

P.S: I think on any mobile phone speakers given the size, even if it was tuned to optimise bass level, it won't sound as good as proper speakers... ;)

Edit: Forgot to mention we have included the Qualcomm WSA8810 smart amplifier for dedicated audio decode to give a clearer sound. It haven't been mentioned anywhere but it's included for sure.

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Congrats Chen. The device looks impressive, and you sure know how high the expectations were. I'll preorder mine now of course, and maybe another one when Sailfish/Leste/Linux run on it.

It has been a great pleasure to follow your work and see the Pro1 come to life. Congratulations again, hope the investment will be worth it and make you rich!

(I want a prototype in my mailbox. Now. Do not argue.)

[Edit] Looking good: 5750 upvotes and 900 comments in 10 hours on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/com...ers_android_9/

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Hi Chen, could you confirm supported LTE band on Pro1?
Are the details on first post accurate/confirmed?

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Specs are on their homepage, just scroll to the bottom:
https://www.fxtec.com/pro1/

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Regarding SD835...... I have a phone with one. And one with 845. And tablet with 660. And there's no real difference in regular daily use. With demanding games or pure benchmarks, sure. But I'm using sheets in WPS a lot, on 845 phone and 660 tab and its the same speed. Tab is better because of bigger screen so the whole UI is different and easier to work with but even opening 20+ MB PDF files is equally fast on both SoCs.
The rest is within reasonable expectations too.

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Hmm, I was surprised to see that the battery is no longer removable :(

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There are unarguable some downsides. But maybe this one isn't that a big let down. Depending on how the devices are assembled. I hope there is anyway a not to hard way to change the battery if needed.

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Too high price for my pocket, but I'll certainly wait for a cheaper model. I'm really missing my N900.

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This raises to me a question : what will be the planed keyboard layouts ?

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It's in the FAQ: QWERTY first, and QWERTZ, AZERTY and Scandic should come later.

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For reference, here is a quick size comparison with some of our favorite phones:

https://reho.st/https://0x0.st/z-5q.png

Not too bad, considering the features and screen size.

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"Favorite"? Two of the five I have not even heard of. Two more I have heard but never seen. Some "favorites", heh :D

And not an N9 or Jolla 1 in sight :eek:

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This is getting ridiculous. You really care about such things? Seriously?

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More reviews with mostly unique content and comments not yet listed on first page:

ZDNet
https://www.zdnet.com/article/slider...erty-keyboard/

Medium
https://medium.com/onethird/mwc2019-...t-6d026dda558c

Wallstreet:online
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/nac...werty-keyboard

finanzen.net
https://www.finanzen.net/nachricht/a...yboard-7195558

All About Symbian http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/featu...9_a_new_Qw.php

Notebookcheck (German)
https://www.notebookcheck.com/F-x-te....410923.0.html

Mobile Geeks (German)
https://www.mobilegeeks.de/news/fxte...ueck-mwc-2019/

Windows Area (German)
https://windowsarea.de/2019/02/surfa...ertz-tastatur/

Techniknews (German)
https://www.techniknews.net/news/fxt...er-blackberry/

Smartdroid (German)
https://www.smartdroid.de/britischer...-brexit-video/

Geeky Gadgets
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/slidin...ne-28-02-2019/

Geektech
https://geektech.me/f-x-tec-pro-1-is...rn-smartphone/

OSNews
https://www.osnews.com/story/129514/...yboard-lovers/

Extremetech
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/2...-from-the-past

Steamhunt
https://steemhunt.com/@fako/f-x-tec-...sical-keyboard

Public Tech News (EDIT, Slash Gear already listed)
https://www.publictechnews.com/fxtec...ard-slashgear/

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One big advantage of hardware keys over virtual ones was completely missed in marketing/press releases/reviews IMO.

I just now was not able to operate my XA2 because my finger and phone where to cold :rolleyes:
(admitted, not everyone has a walk in freezer and spends time sorting in it...)

Also chen confirmed to me that ALT+TAB would switch apps so i miss that detail also to wow the geeks.

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Will this phone support aptX?

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The initial question was if we are ready for this beautiful device, the actual question should be when are we going to have SFOS running on it?

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And in best case officially...

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well, if these geeks were geekish enough, they would know that android supports this by default. I can plug a USB keyboard to my xperia z5c (android 7) right now via OTG cable and it will work (I'm completely on stock, no Lineage, no Cyanogen, no nothing). Why shouldn't it work on android 9?

What's more important, if this thing have AMOLED and if there will be a Sailfish port, then we might probably have LPS (low power screen, aka Always-On-Display) from N9 back... I guess :rolleyes:

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Would be interesting if iOS could be ported to this device. Would be fun to run garage band!