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tso 2009-04-03 10:39

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
bah, this is headache inducing. now all of a sudden webkit-eal do not want to play nice with 40663, and tear gives me 41137 speeds on a page while using 40663.

and no amount of re-download and reinstall of 40663 seems to fix it...

Bundyo 2009-04-03 11:22

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Are you sure there isn't something running in the background? Like Modest or Application manager checking for new packages?

Also stopping browserd will probably help freeing up some memory.

tso 2009-04-03 11:40

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
im sure.

and its not a ram issue as im looking at 50-60MB free, no page should grab that much (and the page im using as a testbed right now has no flash elements).

tso 2009-04-03 13:49

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
bah, i give up. as i try earlier combos of libwebkit, tear and webkit-eal, page rendering is not getting much faster, but the browsers are getting much more unstable.

but i swear at some point the image part of the page rendering have gotten downright glacial vs microb, i just cant nail down when that happened :(

luca 2009-04-04 08:24

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I don't remember if it's been reported before, but there's no support for http basic authentication

qwerty12 2009-04-04 08:27

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 277348)
I don't remember if it's been reported before, but there's no support for http basic authentication

If by that you mean simple username and password box like in MicroB, true but http://user:pass@site works for me (until you have to enter a password with the @ char in it...)

Bundyo 2009-04-04 13:00

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Yes, I also noticed the lack of basic authentication. Dunno if thats fixable though - just checked the Midori 0.1.4 in my openSUSE and it doesn't support it too (and the libwebkit is fairly recent).

qole 2009-04-04 17:04

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I really like Tear; it does everything I need it for, right now... Except one big problem: text selection. For the life of me, I can't select (non-editable) text properly. My stylus drags the page all over the place, I highlight bits of words or single words instead of sentences... Is there something I don't know?

BrentDC 2009-04-04 17:36

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 277427)
I really like Tear; it does everything I need it for, right now... Except one big problem: text selection. For the life of me, I can't select (non-editable) text properly. My stylus drags the page all over the place, I highlight bits of words or single words instead of sentences... Is there something I don't know?

Try holding down the menu-key while highlighting text.

daperl 2009-04-04 17:45

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Thanks for the above, I thus deleted my kludge message.

Bundyo 2009-04-04 18:21

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 277427)
Is there something I don't know?

Yup, there is :D

daperl 2009-04-04 18:39

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 277449)
Yup, there is :D

Is the webkit selection functionality the reason you're popping up the main menu on 'key-release-event' instead of 'key-press-event'? Just curious.

Bundyo 2009-04-04 18:49

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Yup, I also had to position it by hand since I didn't find another way. :)

daperl 2009-04-04 19:01

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 277454)
Yup, I also had to position it by hand since I didn't find another way. :)

Thanks.

widget.get_toplevel().window.get_origin() is your friend.

GeraldKo 2009-04-04 19:10

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Although the menu key permits short selecting, I still can't select text that runs for more than one screen. Is there a way to do that currently, or planned? If not, the problem could largely be remedied by a Select All menu choice.

Here's a samplehttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/ma...gewanted=print of what I couldn't select all of:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/ma...gewanted=print

(I'd like a Select All option in any event, I guess.)

(Also, in this very post, I couldn't select the word "sample" and then tap the Link button without losing the highlighting -- pretty trivial issue, but I thought I'd mention it since it's staring me in the face.)

Bundyo 2009-04-04 19:17

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
There was a select all option before I change the context menu to use the internal webkit one. I can add it again of course.

Please do a bug report.

GeraldKo 2009-04-04 19:38

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 277461)
There was a select all option before I change the context menu to use the internal webkit one. I can add it again of course.

Please do a bug report.

Good time, I guess, to mention that I find the current context menu pointless and annoying. Reload and Go Back are plenty convenient at the bottom near the address bar; and it always seems to pop up when I'm trying to get the other, useful context menu to Open Link in a New Window.

(I'll do a bug report when I'm on a full computer.)

Bundyo 2009-04-04 19:51

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
They are the same context menu. I don't have access to the insides of the web_view and i can't get a link click notification without heavily modifying it and I already have too much to do in it anyway, so I decided to leave the context menu to them and just add some items here and there when needed. I'm not sure if I can remove an item and currently I don't see the point in that.

Sho 2009-04-04 21:11

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Bundyo: Had any time to look at the ARM JIT?

Bundyo 2009-04-04 21:44

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
No, not JIT time yet.

I'm in the middle of something and I prefer to finish it before I turn my attention to the JIT. Of course I'm not the only one that can apply patches to webkit so maybe someone else can do it meanwhile. If not, then me later. :)

luca 2009-04-04 22:37

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 277349)
If by that you mean simple username and password box like in MicroB, true but http://user:pass@site works for me (until you have to enter a password with the @ char in it...)

duh, I don't know why I didn't try that, thank you.

godd 2009-04-05 00:05

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Is it possible to increase a default font size? It is so tiny now for my eyes.

Bundyo 2009-04-05 07:12

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
You can use the user stylesheet or zoom.

godd 2009-04-05 15:28

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 277579)
You can use the user stylesheet or zoom.

Thanks for the prompt answer! User style sheets are here, right?
/home/user/.tear/userstyles.css

Any example of alternating this file will be appreciated.

Bundyo 2009-04-05 16:33

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Use the same CSS property I mentioned earlier. Add to *:

Code:

-webkit-text-size-adjust: 120% !important;
This will make the text zoom 120% by default (only text), though I'm not sure it will be freely zoomable after that.

P S. Oops... add !important at the end...

maacruz 2009-04-05 18:10

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 277639)
Use the same CSS property I mentioned earlier. Add to *:

Code:

-webkit-text-size-adjust: 120% !important;
This will make the text zoom 120% by default (only text), though I'm not sure it will be freely zoomable after that.

P S. Oops... add !important at the end...

Doesn't work at all, and makes text unzoomable.
What we need is a way to set a minimum font size, zooming isn't enough; actually the whole page is zoomed, tiny text remains tiny while normal text becomes huge, and pages like wikipedia where text flows around images are crippled.

And, by the way, even with those annoyances, tear is great. Thank you very much for it, it has given a new life to the tablet :)

Bundyo 2009-04-05 18:40

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
There are font settings in libwebkit, so its probably possible.

godd 2009-04-06 02:39

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 277669)
There are font settings in libwebkit, so its probably possible.

Any hint where can I find them ?

yukop4 2009-04-06 03:31

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
bookmarks will not appear in panel---i ticked the box but no icon-any idea-had it working before

meizirkki 2009-04-06 04:25

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 277788)
bookmarks will not appear in panel---i ticked the box but no icon-any idea-had it working before

it didn't work before i first time started tear

Bundyo 2009-04-06 04:56

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Can someone clarify this about the bookmarks? On first start they don't work?

Quote:

Originally Posted by godd (Post 277782)
Any hint where can I find them ?

You can't at the time of writing.

TrueJournals 2009-04-06 11:49

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
The current version of the bookmark plugin will only show up if you have at least one bookmark. Open tear, create a bookmark, and then you should be able to show the plugin. I'll try to fix this for the next version.

lm2 2009-04-06 14:12

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 277788)
bookmarks will not appear in panel---i ticked the box but no icon-any idea-had it working before

Not sure if this is what you mean, but often I'll open a new dashboard while a tear window is open and the dashboard will be completely empty. If I close tear and restart, the dashboard is properly populated with all my bookmarks and recent browsing history.

While I'm at it: Keep up the GREAT work!!!

Bundyo 2009-04-06 15:26

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
You open the Dashboard from where? :)

tso 2009-04-06 15:51

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
i have seen the empty dashboard happen by running tear from terminal, using the plus on the panel and the bookmarks applet "new window". never could trigger it reliably enough to make some kind of bug report on it tho.

lm2 2009-04-06 16:17

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 277877)
You open the Dashboard from where? :)

By tapping the icon on the bottom right and choosing dashboard.

GeraldKo 2009-04-06 17:27

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 277867)
Not sure if this is what you mean, but often I'll open a new dashboard while a tear window is open and the dashboard will be completely empty. If I close tear and restart, the dashboard is properly populated with all my bookmarks and recent browsing history.

While I'm at it: Keep up the GREAT work!!!

I used to get the empty dashboard, too, but the problem went away after I deleted an (accidentally created) bookmark for the dashboard. Coincidence? Or because at the same time I'd just installed and first run the bookmark manager add-on?

lm2, do you have a bookmark for dashboard?

And, indeed, Bundyo et al, keep up the great work! What a gift to us all!

Bundyo 2009-04-06 17:34

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Do some of you have bookmarks in utf-8?

lm2 2009-04-06 17:39

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 277899)
lm2, do you have a bookmark for dashboard?

Yes, turns out I too have a bookmark for dashboard. But no yellow star appears when the dashboard is open. So how do I delete the bookmark? Is there a file I can edit in x-term?

(I also have the bookmarks task navigator plugin installed.)

tso 2009-04-06 18:32

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
i used to have a dashboard bookmark, but its long gone.

still see a empty dashboard now and then tho...


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