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nax3000 2010-04-11 19:05

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hofman (Post 605730)
how can i make bios file?any easy way?

You don't make it; you download it. I can't link you to any because it's illegal.

EDIT

Smoku, can you please explain to me why is it so hard to get GPU acceleration on the N900? I'm intrigued...
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hofman 2010-04-11 19:12

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Yes, i know, but when i download any gamep there are just bin,img,sub.....files.So every game has thier own bios?

smoku 2010-04-11 19:13

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hofman (Post 605730)
how can i make bios file?any easy way?

http://forums.ngemu.com/misc-psx-dis...ing-guide.html

It's illegal to download BIOS image if you do not own PlayStation hardware.
Even if you do own one, some countries fair use law does not cover this use case, so it's also illegal.
And in come countries it's even illegal to make a dump.
You need to check for yourself.

smoku 2010-04-11 19:16

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 605776)
Smoku, can you please explain to me why is it so hard to get GPU acceleration on the N900? I'm intrigued...

It's not really hard. You just need two things:
1. Knowledge about PSX GPU internals and specification
2. Knowledge and experience with OpenGL ES or OpenGL ES 2 programming

I don't posses both.

Dousan 2010-04-11 19:22

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hofman (Post 605794)
Yes, i know, but when i download any gamep there are just bin,img,sub.....files.So every game has thier own bios?

No the bios is a sepprate thing. i'm no expert but somewhere in this thread some one explains what it does. Anyway you need one to start up the games in the emu (or atleast most of the times, for me). Its described in the first post where to put it and wich one to use. Just google it and you shall find it ;)

nax3000 2010-04-11 19:34

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 605800)
It's not really hard. You just need two things:
1. Knowledge about PSX GPU internals and specification
2. Knowledge and experience with OpenGL ES or OpenGL ES 2 programming

I don't posses both.

Oh wow, haha. That's quite a bummer. Maybe you could get help from someone in the community? (ZodTTD is probably out of the question because he answer to almost nobody)
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smoku 2010-04-11 19:42

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
BIOS for PSX is the same thing as BIOS for your PC.
It allows machine startup, displays boot screen, and provides services for applications to access the hardware. It's a piece of software that allows other applications to start and operate.

PCSX and PSX4All have something called HLE built-in. It's a reimplementation of original PSX BIOS in emulator software. It's mostly complete and allows running most games. But some games using bizzare BIOS features may need a real BIOS from a real PSX. This is when you need to provide the scph1001.bin file.


As for the so called "ROM files":
PSX does not use ROM files. Other game consoles used hardware cartdridges with some ROM variant chip inside storing the game code and data. Dumps of content of this chip are called "ROM files".
PSX does not use cartdridges but compact disks. So a dump of a CD is your familiar CD image file you usually use to burn CD-Rs. PCSX and PSX4All are able to use these image files directly, without burning to CD. You may use most image files format different imaging software use. Just pick your favorite one and dump your PSX CD to file.

smoku 2010-04-11 19:45

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 605825)
Oh wow, haha. That's quite a bummer. Maybe you could get help from someone in the community?

Who exactly do you mean?

smoku 2010-04-11 20:00

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I added a few "pages worth reading" to the first post.
If you think I should add more, please specify which.

nax3000 2010-04-11 20:20

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 605852)
Who exactly do you mean?

I don't have specific users in mind but there must be people here who are well acquainted with Open GLES on Maemo 5/N900.
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jantsuu 2010-04-11 20:34

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
How can I adjust PSX clock in latest version?

bushi 2010-04-12 10:43

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Does everyone have their games running smoothly or are they fairly slow in terms of FPS.


If games can be played smoothly could somone please let me know some optimal settings?

Thanks.

baron von bubba 2010-04-12 10:48

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47937
simples.

mthmob 2010-04-12 10:53

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bushi (Post 606715)
Does everyone have their games running smoothly or are they fairly slow in terms of FPS.


If games can be played smoothly could somone please let me know some optimal settings?

Thanks.

Well i suggest you try out diffrent multipliers in diffrent games. f.ex Tony Hawks runs best at around 3-5 multiplier, where FF7 runs best with Multiplier on 10. Some games can't even start with too high multiplier

Second, you need to play around with Frameskip, i recommend setting it to 1/2, but dont enable frameskip on all elements. Maybe only blits or something like that.

Consider getting a bios, scph1001.bin and scph7502.bin is the most recommended. I get better fps in some games using my own bios.

With these 3 things in mind you can make alot of games playable... at this point i can play: FF7, Tony Hawks 1-3, Abe's oddysee, Kula World, Diablo, Wipeout 2097, and few others. Also at this point i would say half the games i tested worked, and again half of those are playable, so thats around 1/4 that can be played, maybe more :) gl with it

phantoom 2010-04-12 21:33

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
hi all

i've send a message to ZodDDT about the psx4all maemo project (and the lack of gpu acceleration) i told him where the project was and linked this thread

here is his answer:

Hi, I've been meaning to get an N900 for awhile now. If I get one, I can get it up and running with some newer code (from my work on psx4pandora which is faster and more compatible with games) very quickly with some forum help as it seems a lot of the base work is done.Sound like a good idea? If so I'll check my budget and prices on the N900. Thanks!
ZodTTD
zodttd@zodttd.com
http://www.zodttd.com


I'll send him a reply and tell him i would probably pay for a fully playable emu and that i would probably not be the only one

Smoku : i asked him if he could take contact with you for the GPU part

smoku 2010-04-12 21:47

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Cool! :D
I will gladly help with integrating my UI. :)

phantoom 2010-04-12 22:03

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Here is what i tested for the moment:

Tomorow never dies 007 : Crashes when loading
Alien Trilogy : NOT WORKING
Ape Escape : Lauch but no analog controller detected so doesn't work
Battle Arena toshinden : Works (very slow)
Cool Boarders 2 : Works (well)
Defcon 5 : Works (well but the wall textexture are cuted in parts?)
Destruction derby : NOT WORKING
Destruction derby 2 : NOT WORKING
Die Hard trilogy : Crashes
Driver : Works (slow)
Formula One : works (fast but game crashes after a while)
Gex 2 : works (slow)
Medievil : NOT WORKING
Micro machines V3 : Crashes after language selection
Need for speed : NOT WORKING
Pandemonium : NOT WORKING
NFS porche Challenge : Crashed at begining of race
Tekken : Works (slow)
Tekken 3 : NOT WORKING
Twisted metal 2: Works
Wipout 3 : Works (ok)

smoku 2010-04-12 22:32

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Please edit your message and remove the link to illegal software.
Otherwise it will be subject to moderator action.

Kevstacey 2010-04-12 22:41

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 607686)
Please edit your message and remove the link to illegal software.
Otherwise it will be subject to moderator action.

sorry bud, wernt sure if links was okay or not.

Bazza 2010-04-12 23:00

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Naughty naughty kevstace ;)

JereHakala 2010-04-13 08:56

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phantoom (Post 607644)
Here is what i tested for the moment:

Tomorow never dies 007 : Crashes when loading
Alien Trilogy : NOT WORKING
Ape Escape : Lauch but no analog controller detected so doesn't work
Battle Arena toshinden : Works (very slow)
Cool Boarders 2 : Works (well)
Defcon 5 : Works (well but the wall textexture are cuted in parts?)
Destruction derby : NOT WORKING
Destruction derby 2 : NOT WORKING
Die Hard trilogy : Crashes
Driver : Works (slow)
Formula One : works (fast but game crashes after a while)
Gex 2 : works (slow)
Medievil : NOT WORKING
Micro machines V3 : Crashes after language selection
Need for speed : NOT WORKING
Pandemonium : NOT WORKING
NFS porche Challenge : Crashed at begining of race
Tekken : Works (slow)
Tekken 3 : NOT WORKING
Twisted metal 2: Works
Wipout 3 : Works (ok)

Tekken 3 works for me, well, I downloaded 2 different, 500mb version which didn't work and 50mb version, which did work.

phantoom 2010-04-13 09:31

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Also tried Moto Racer :

The game lauches, but there is no menu on screen so you just press buttons until race starts.

When it starts, the game seems to be full speed (at 600mhz) but after a while it crashes

To bad it has those issues, it's the fastest game i've seen so far

rolan900d 2010-04-13 09:50

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Did you try it with other bios files?

Bazza 2010-04-13 12:08

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 605796)
And in come countries it's even illegal to make a dump.
You need to check for yourself.

What !!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Oh sorry i misread your post. i thought you typed take.:D:D:D:D:D:D

smoku 2010-04-13 12:12

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LOL You made my day.

Bazza 2010-04-13 12:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 608455)
LOL You made my day.

I posted it in the wrong thread. lol

But hey its good to laugh .:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

sophocha 2010-04-13 15:12

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
....in plain english, how and where do you save a game (for example Abe Odyssey)....it asks me to format the memory card! (I don`t want to do that)....help :)

xFinal 2010-04-13 18:21

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
before you can save on the memory cards you need to format them atleast once, after that it should just save normally. If you still dont want to format then you will have to wait for a update that has save states again.

cddiede 2010-04-13 18:36

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 608735)
....in plain english, how and where do you save a game (for example Abe Odyssey)....it asks me to format the memory card! (I don`t want to do that)....help :)

It's asking to format your virtual Playstation Memory card, not the Micro SDHC memory card in your N900. This is safe and allows you to save your Playstation game states.

sophocha 2010-04-13 18:50

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
...another question....I have some .pbp games, will these work or do I have to convert to .bin files?....also, what other formats except .bin would work with this emulator?

Thanks

crail 2010-04-13 19:03

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
bin, img, iso are the ones that have worked for me so far

Figa 2010-04-14 18:26

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Smoku, firstly I have to say thank you for your work. It is amazing. Is there any chance that graphics and fonts will look better? Do you still work on this emu?

smoku 2010-04-14 19:06

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I'm waiting for new release from ZodTTD.

Figa 2010-04-14 19:15

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Thank you for quick answer. I canīt wait :)

nax3000 2010-04-14 19:19

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 610648)
I'm waiting for new release from ZodTTD.

Do you have any idea if he's going to release it soon? I see no reference to it in his blog/twitter.. he also seems to have not worked on it for a long time when I looked at his github.
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phantoom 2010-04-14 19:59

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
As he told me he has been working on the pandora (that seems to work great) version, he is trying to get a n900 device and then release a version of new emu with the help of smoku.
Still that for the moment only smoku is working on this project for n900.

Again THX smoku for the work you did as you all gaved us a real gaming potential.

Now all we can do is prey for ZodDTT to come here and help you as i asked him to do

smoku 2010-04-14 21:02

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phantoom (Post 607585)
i've send a message to ZodDDT about the psx4all maemo project (and the lack of gpu acceleration) i told him where the project was and linked this thread

here is his answer:
[...]

BTW, You pal must have real magical powers! :D

He didn't answer any of my e-mails I've sent him.

Unbeliever 2010-04-16 07:39

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Hello guys!
Could anyone help me? I want to run Diablo 1 on my device, but I can`t press "Start" to enter the game. Remapping keys has no effect. What is the problem? Or maybe it depens on unworking .bin? Could anyone give me a working version of Diablo? Plz
Sorry for English, I don`t speak well :(

buxz777 2010-04-16 08:08

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
maybe nokia could send him one of the loan returns that are heading back their way and then being sent out agin to more devolopers :-)

there is a thread

returning amsterdam loan n900

there may be some users worth sending a pm to see if they can arrange something :-)

iam sure he would like a loan n900 untill his budget is better and the n900 communtiy would benifit :-)


just an idear


Quote:

Originally Posted by phantoom (Post 607585)
hi all

i've send a message to ZodDDT about the psx4all maemo project (and the lack of gpu acceleration) i told him where the project was and linked this thread

here is his answer:

Hi, I've been meaning to get an N900 for awhile now. If I get one, I can get it up and running with some newer code (from my work on psx4pandora which is faster and more compatible with games) very quickly with some forum help as it seems a lot of the base work is done.Sound like a good idea? If so I'll check my budget and prices on the N900. Thanks!
ZodTTD
zodttd@zodttd.com
http://www.zodttd.com


I'll send him a reply and tell him i would probably pay for a fully playable emu and that i would probably not be the only one

Smoku : i asked him if he could take contact with you for the GPU part


Angeburger 2010-04-16 14:31

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I've been playing FF7 on the most recent version available for my N900 (0.39 I believe) and it seems like it should run really well but my frame rate is incredibly inconsitent, like it fluctuates between 50FPS and about 3fps at some points and it's making the game very difficult to play. Is this a known issue and is there a way to fix it? I'm running Lehto's 900-mhz kernel so it should be fast enough to keep up.


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