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nkirk 2012-01-08 05:13

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
I also face the same scenario where the view finder is very dark when the camera app is opened , but its easily fixable by changing only the ev values once. maybe at start-up Cam-UI might be ignoring the reported correct EV values by the driver or whtevr.

Also changing of ISO and EV values at the same time never worked for me (resulted in too dark or none responsive ISO /EV settings which forced me to restart the cam UI), but behaved as expected if you change only one of the parameters from the either.

nkirk

strange1712 2012-01-08 05:25

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nkirk (Post 1147334)
I also face the same scenario where the view finder is very dark when the camera app is opened , but its easily fixable by changing only the ev values once. maybe at start-up Cam-UI might be ignoring the reported correct EV values by the driver or whtevr.

Also changing of ISO and EV values at the same time never worked for me (resulted in too dark or none responsive ISO /EV settings which forced me to restart the cam UI), but behaved as expected if you change only one of the parameters from the either.

nkirk

I guess we are talking about this "at the same time" scenario... It's not really useful if you can fix one of this parameters and you can't set the other, as for example, if you want to take a picture on lower light but still want to get a good grade of details you should set ISO to a low value (100/200), and Exposure to a higher value (I really prefer Fcam for this, though), which can be somewhat achieved setting higher EV... and you have to be patient and non-shaking hands, or a tripod or somewhere to fix the cam... On the other side, you may wish to get the best of an even lower light scenery and set high ISO and High EV...

tecs 2012-01-08 08:54

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
I can confirm this bug occuring on manual ISO and + exposure. The only way to restore viewfinder was to switch to automatic ISO or select a - or 0 exposure setting then tap the viewfinder (or open any menu or dialog that fades the background and go back to the viewfinder).

nicolai 2012-01-08 10:44

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tecs (Post 1147359)
I can confirm this bug occuring on manual ISO and + exposure. The only way to restore viewfinder was to switch to automatic ISO or select a - or 0 exposure setting then tap the viewfinder (or open any menu or dialog that fades the background and go back to the viewfinder).


This is an old known bug 10384.

I tried to solve this bug for my own camera-ui, but I
had to realize it must be a bug in the underlaying
camera-driver. There was no way to feed the
camera-api with just the "right" values. Every
combination of iso-value and ev-correction leads to
this black preview.
But of course, it is a won't fix and no information about
how we could fix this.

Pondake 2012-01-08 11:03

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Just great, why wasn't this mentioned in the first post?

How can I rewind this?

marmistrz 2012-01-08 12:14

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Suggestions:
raw and png format as output
make video capture less stuttering (sometimes happens)

geohsia 2012-01-08 13:48

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 1147233)
What tone curve?

Sorry I meant the dark portion of the histogram. Have you not seen the same with regard to RAW and N900 JPGs?

nicolai 2012-01-08 15:27

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
1 Attachment(s)
@geohsia @Estel

Can you test this version. I removed the black-level values in
the dng file. This isn't right, but it seems to be responsible for
the bad raw data for lower light images.

geohsia 2012-01-08 15:32

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 1147463)
@geohsia @Estel

Can you test this version. I removed the black-level values in
the dng file. This isn't right, but it seems to be responsible for
the bad raw data for lower light images.

Hi Nicolai. I tried to update (save and clicked on the file) and it says "Unable to update camera-ui Incompatible application package."

BTW, I believe the technical term to be "crushed blacks". This is more common in the video world.

don_falcone 2012-01-08 15:38

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Someone told that in this case you'll have go the dpkg route, as HAM won't install packages that don't sit in 'user' category.

geohsia 2012-01-08 15:44

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1147468)
Someone told that in this case you'll have go the dpkg route, as HAM won't install packages that don't sit in 'user' category.

Got it.... done Will reboot and run it through some tests. Thx. for the quick help.

geohsia 2012-01-08 16:22

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
2 Attachment(s)
Nicolai!!!!

You are a genius. Would you mind sharing what exactly you did? Is it a modification on existing files? Being selfish I was wondering if there was a way to go back and fix old files.

I'll post two files. One is the from JPG and the other is from the raw. When I did the same test perviously your face was just about all black.

Anyways, thanks for the quick fix/turnaround.

geohsia 2012-01-08 16:34

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
2 Attachment(s)
I applied levels on both because the JPG was underexposed and the DNG was overexposed (because of Cornerfix). I applied a bit of WB to both and a bit of contrast to the DNG. I wanted to show what you can do now that the files look superawesome!

The first file on the previous post is the DNG with Cornerfix. The second file is the JPG. I named them accordingly so if you dnld that's fine. I am trying to upload full sized images but I think they're getting compressed anyways full sized files are available if needed.

nicolai 2012-01-08 16:50

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Nice images :)

I just set the black-level value to zero. This can not be right. Maybe,
this value is now wrong for images taken at sunny light.
I need some way to determine the correct value, depending
on lightning conditions(?).

Anyway, you can even change the value for existing images with exiftool

exiftool -BlackLevel="0 0 0 0" IMAGE_FILE

geohsia 2012-01-08 17:04

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 1147499)
Nice images :)

Haha. Well, it's night time here in Taiwan and I needed something with a light source where I can show detail and dynamic range. The monitor is my easy solution.

Notice though in the full size your avatar is in the extreme corner where it has historically been near impossible to get the color right. Nicely done sir!

Quote:

I just set the black-level value to zero. This can not be right. Maybe,
I don't know what this means for the overall file but it looks good to me. I will test this out more tomorrow and see what happens.

Quote:

this value is now wrong for images taken at sunny light.
I need some way to determine the correct value, depending
on lightning conditions(?).
Do you mean outdoor scenes will be overexposed?

Quote:

Anyway, you can even change the value for existing images with exiftool

exiftool -BlackLevel="0 0 0 0" IMAGE_FILE
Ooh nice. This is going to keep me busy for days... I have lots of old files stored....

Anyone know how to write a batch script in Windows. Thx.

Estel 2012-01-08 19:47

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Confirming above results. It's a night time here in Poland, so I'll test more tomorrow (although, considering weather, don't expect Sunny Day photos ;) ). Thanks Nicolai for reacting so fast, and caring at all!

BTW, any chances for test version, that also contains 720p video recording? Of course I'm not complaining - but it's a little under-productive, to reinstall version every time I want to get nice RAW photos or 720p video.


And, considering current problems with getting *any* response from MAG, we would probably wait a 'little', until next CSSU-testing appears. Unless merlin will be given extra fast maintainership approval from X-Fade, which, as we know too well (judging on kernel-power repository bug history), may also take a looong time.

/Estel

geohsia 2012-01-09 02:37

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
So Hey Nicolai. Are you planning on doing anything with RAW on the N9? Just curious. I'm still hoping to get my hands on a white one....

Estel 2012-01-09 11:14

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 1147697)
So Hey Nicolai. Are you planning on doing anything with RAW on the N9? Just curious. I'm still hoping to get my hands on a white one....

Off-topic:
A big NO for the god's sake!

geohsia 2012-01-09 12:31

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1147820)
Off-topic:
A big NO for the god's sake!

What's wrong with wanting RAW on the N9? Given how well the N900 RAW is turning out the N9 would be even better wouldn't it?

Estel 2012-01-09 14:40

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
It's a very long story, including how N950 was worst thing that could happen to Maemo development "world" (see current problems with once-respectable maintainers, that got N950 virus and disappeared without any trace), why N9 isn't worth considering as successor of N900, etc. Of course all of this apply to Harmattan-powered toys, not Mer.

It's definitely off-topic here, but if You're interested why sane Maemo users hate what Nokia did with Meego/Harmattan/N9(50) etc, just search forum.

/Estel

geohsia 2012-01-09 15:34

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1147905)
It's a very long story, including how N950 was worst thing that could happen to Maemo development "world" (see current problems with once-respectable maintainers, that got N950 virus and disappeared without any trace), why N9 isn't worth considering as successor of N900, etc. Of course all of this apply to Harmattan-powered toys, not Mer.

It's definitely off-topic here, but if You're interested why sane Maemo users hate what Nokia did with Meego/Harmattan/N9(50) etc, just search forum.

/Estel

Interesting. I have been having trouble finding the N9 (esp. white) here in TW so haven't been tracking N9 development. I will look into what you say but I am still looking forward to getting my hands on the N9. Regardless of what might have happened with Harmattan I still would love to see RAW on the N9 whether it be fCam based or something else.

petur 2012-01-09 15:36

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 1147937)
Interesting. I have been having trouble finding the N9 (esp. white) here in TW so haven't been tracking N9 development. I will look into what you say but I am still looking forward to getting my hands on the N9. Regardless of what might have happened with Harmattan I still would love to see RAW on the N9 whether it be fCam based or something else.

You're making it worse!

:P

geohsia 2012-01-09 15:39

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petur (Post 1147938)
You're making it worse!

:P

This is completely off topic but I feel like I'm missing something here. I know Nokia hasn't handled the Maemo / MeeGo / Harmattan transition well but what's wrong with wanting RAW on the N9. I"m not sure I'm seeing the threads she referring to. Can someone help me fill in the blank here.

Rob1n 2012-01-09 15:48

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 1147941)
This is completely off topic but I feel like I'm missing something here. I know Nokia hasn't handled the Maemo / MeeGo / Harmattan transition well but what's wrong with wanting RAW on the N9. I"m not sure I'm seeing the threads she referring to. Can someone help me fill in the blank here.

I think the issue is that a number of developers have stopped development on the N900 as soon as they got an N9/N950. While the N950 may be a reasonable replacement for the N900, the N9 (which is all that most of us can get hold of) is definitely not, so the steady flow of developers away from the N900 is very disappointing.

woody14619 2012-01-09 20:07

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
I think the bigger issue at hand is that Nicolai doesn't have an N9 (or an N950 for that matter). And even if he did, the nature of the N9 doesn't lend itself to this type of modification. Plus, the hardware is completely different, so it would be a re-start from square one.

Estel 2012-01-09 23:16

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
I'm officially going to execute every person that would think about donating N950/N9 to Nicolai ;) BTW, I wonder, if US net automatic netspy just track it down due to usage of "execute" word. Well, probably not, as NSA would already have hands busy with everyone that tries to "execute" code...

Jokes aside, lets go back on topic, ok?

geohsia 2012-01-09 23:49

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1148099)
I'm officially going to execute every person that would think about donating N950/N9 to Nicolai ;)

That's a great idea, why didn't I think of that. Once I start my new job Nicolai (and get my white N9) I'll see what I can do... I really want RAW on the N9!

Estel.. I'm in TW so come and get me! ;-)

---- Edit

BTW, I get the fact that people are leaving the N900 development. I won't give my opinion and further ruffle feathers... but suffice it to sayI think any community for Linux where people are excited about both software and hardware is good. Plus as far as I can tell Android doesn't have RAW in any phone...

nicolai 2012-01-10 06:15

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Thank you, but I have an N950.
There is no way to get the raw image data on the
N9(50), at least not that way I am doing this on the N900.
Mabe I can find a way, but camera-ui on the N900
has higher priority, for me.

geohsia 2012-01-10 13:37

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 1148225)
Thank you, but I have an N950.
There is no way to get the raw image data on the
N9(50), at least not that way I am doing this on the N900.
Mabe I can find a way, but camera-ui on the N900
has higher priority, for me.

:-)

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...


So I downloaded exiftool for Windows and ran the command you listed a few posts back and literally went through every photo I took on the N900 and what a difference.

In fact, I am actually not going to run cornerfix. I certainly could do a better job with the profile but I noticed that it was adding weird discolorations and the RAW file once edited for black levels is so much better that it's really 6 or half dozen which you prefer so I opted for the least work.

So thanks again for the quick fix. I hope the fix gets pushed to CSSU as I think people really will benefit.

Estel 2012-01-10 18:04

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 1148225)
Thank you, but I have an N950.
(...)
Maybe I can find a way, but camera-ui on the N900
has higher priority, for me.

/me is heading to Nicolai donation link

// edit

Nicolai, do you have any other possible way of donating, that doesn't include paypal? They're quite problematic to use, lately.

Estel 2012-01-11 18:14

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Sorry if it was mentioned before, but could not find it on first post, nor using search - is there any way, to arbitrary change path, of where files are saved, if using any of 2 predefinied options (internal memory or mmc car4d)? The thing is, that I would like to make dedicated, encrypted partition for private things, yet *do not* encrypt whole MyDocs. So, I would like to make photos get saved into encrypted partition (of course, when it's mounted), instead of /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM/. Any way to do this? Of course I could use symlinks tricks, but would prefer more regular solution, if available.

/Estel

Geoning 2012-01-12 19:49

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 1147463)
@geohsia @Estel

Can you test this version. I removed the black-level values in
the dng file. This isn't right, but it seems to be responsible for
the bad raw data for lower light images.

In this version, if I select the HD customresolution will still record a DVD ;/

Now I used, camera-ui_1.1.29.2+0cssu8_armel

karam 2012-01-13 08:06

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
@Estel
edit this file

/home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs

with user not with root
still haven't tried this before,hope it works with you
maybe a reboot is needed

woody14619 2012-01-13 19:20

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karam (Post 1149916)
@Estel
edit this file

/home/user/user-dirs.dirs

Actually, it's:

/home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs

But knowing the file name made it easy to find. :)

karam 2012-01-14 04:07

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
oops

fixed it ;)
but did it work with you Estel ?

Estel 2012-01-14 06:53

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Unfortunately, not. Despite reboot etc, photos are still saved to '/home/user/MyDocs/DCIM'.

Either this config file is related to something else, or camera-ui2 doesn't use it. I haven't tested it with stock camera.

Normally, I would just symlink it, but MyDocs/MMC vfat...

/Estel

karam 2012-01-14 06:59

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
i have once had a problem
caused every taken photo with camera-ui2
to get saved into /home/user/MyDocs/.camera

had to reflash because i coudn't find the problem (but i think i have deleted something from /home/user/.* ) that's why i thought i is user-dirs.dirs

will take another seach tour ;)

RichardN900 2012-01-15 06:34

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
First off all, i found something odd.
Before logging in i can see about 80 pages on this thread, but after logging i can see only 20 pages until quoted message. (I hope is my browser)


Anyway, i have found this threade searching for a suppossed option to record 720p video on my N900.

I installed both attached packages, i have latest cssu and i have kernel power .49

Now, i cant find an option to record 720p video.

¿What am i missing or doing wrong?

I browsed this thread up and down several times, and i'm kind of lost.

Thanks for your time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 1147463)
@geohsia @Estel

Can you test this version. I removed the black-level values in
the dng file. This isn't right, but it seems to be responsible for
the bad raw data for lower light images.


tecs 2012-01-15 09:17

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardN900 (Post 1150763)
First off all, i found something odd.
Before logging in i can see about 80 pages on this thread, but after logging i can see only 20 pages until quoted message. (I hope is my browser

This is normal - you (like me) probably increased the post count for threads to something like 40. 80 pages x 10 posts = 20 pages x 40 posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardN900 (Post 1150763)
Anyway, i have found this threade searching for a suppossed option to record 720p video on my N900.

I installed both attached packages, i have latest cssu and i have kernel power .49

Now, i cant find an option to record 720p video.

¿What am i missing or doing wrong?

I browsed this thread up and down several times, and i'm kind of lost.

Be sure to read and do everything from this post. Don't forget to restart after all that ;)

RichardN900 2012-01-15 17:27

Re: camera-ui2 (now a part of CSSU) (updated 09. May)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tecs (Post 1150800)
This is normal - you (like me) probably increased the post count for threads to something like 40. 80 pages x 10 posts = 20 pages x 40 posts.

Now remember... that's right.


Quote:

Originally Posted by tecs (Post 1150800)
Be sure to read and do everything from this post. Don't forget to restart after all that ;)

OK, thanks, i have seen that post but i tought that was only to play 720p videos.
I'm downloading now.


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