Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Given the lack of support for the N900 by Nokia it seems most sensible people's money would be better spent on the SGSII or HTC Sensation. Even the LG meego os phone maybe a better option[/QUOTE]

Yes, I'm thinking the same thing. I really hope it has similar specs as I saw somewhere.

64GB mass mem + MicroSD - 720p video recording and playback - HDMI - PowerVR540 graphics chip

It is mencioned ARM A8 Cortex @1Ghz and 512MB of ram . So it will perform at least a little better than SGS 1 . Difference is 'Humminbird' chip, Power VR540 is a bit better, I think. As they said it will come with an 'elegant hardware' . So I am not expecting a Dualcore device. Even it should, after all it's supposed to be a HighEnd smartphone, but I know Nokia. I'll wait and see first of many reviews and price drop a bit. Got my N900 in September, 2010 for U$400. Don't want to pay more than 500 with N9, except if it matches SGS2 (wish that one had a nice 4row kb) .

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Fine with me. A geek is what I am.

Look at the clumsy, crippled devices that 'regular consumers' have to cope with. Is that really what you want? Certainly not.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

You are referring to Meego proper vanilla right?
Few end users want Meego proper vanilla, and it is hard to believe Nokia will port the Harmattan UI and all of the proprietary binaries to Meego and offer that as a firmware update. Maybe they are talking about such plan now, but Nokia's plan regarding to Maemo/Meego is not accountable..

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Ok teaser...but even in a teaser you can show more.

If you have more.

As someone else here already said, it would also be interesting, how long the eco system of such a MeeGo(?) Smartphone will be supported.
There should be some clear statement from Elop, if MS will buy
complete Nokia. ;-)
Just joking.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

If Nokia can swear that it will delivering updates, support and all QT applications across from Symbian, games and new application from MS win7 then I'm all in.

If Nokia do what Apple did in providing support to the N9 for as long as MeeGo still capable running on the device then I am all in.

If Nokia willing to do a fair trade-in of my N900 for half price discount on the N9 then I'm all in.

If Nokia makes this device record at 1080p 30fps smoothly and provide Flash10+ updates then I'm all in.

If Nokia.... ... Add your words here ....

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Come on... be realistic... ;)

All I want is that I can buy the device with QWERTY keyboard. Then I'm all in... if there will be a qwerty-less device for consumers to buy only, I don't have that much interest in it...

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

For this one I think your expectation is a bit low..

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

That does not seem likely - why would Nokia give the developers different hardware to what they are going to be deploying to? Developers need to see how their app will run on on consumer devices.

So that doesn't seem likely. My guess is dev device and consumer will be the same.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

That's my big hope. If so, I will pre-order this thing as soon as possible...

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

i don't care what support they have. the N9 will be my next upgrade. my thirst for an open linux-based smartphone that has decent performance, useability and UI has been answered!

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 

bring it on. i want the N9!!!

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Are you kidding me?
I tell you that there will be updates for this device every six month as long as MeeGo exists and you call MeeGo a deadend OS for Nokia?
Are we here in a regular consumer forum? Last time I checked it was still a dev/early adopter/geek forum.

edit: just to be clear: MeeGo is part of "future disruptions". Future disruptions means for Nokia developing potentially ground breaking, world changing devices and test them in real world environments in a smaller scale.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

-keeps external battery upgrade possibility (Mugen or homebrew)
-keeps HW keyboard (against Elop "cripple the N9 to be as incomplete as the future WP7 devices" -doctrine)
-keeps resistive screen
-keeps Maemo 5
-adds integrated geiger-counter
-adds a cigarette lighter and a compass
-makes it shock and water-resistant
-adds a megaphone function

Improves the general HW specs a little so that Maemo 5 finally flies.

I am willing to pay 1500 USD or todays equivalent in silver coins

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 

i want an n9 for free

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 

You know thats suprisingly true! I would expect the N900 to be stupidlly slow now that its 18months old - but no.

Its very quick!

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

its funny coz it says meego in the video's description..

Re: N9/N950 image gallery
 

I hope that is not the battery for the final product, 1200 Mah is not enaugh by a long shot for any 600+ Mhz phone. The thinness can limit the battery size, but other dimentions matter more. Look at the Atrix or SGSll. In fact, the wider/longer body mainly because of the bigger screen gives you more opportunity to fit in a bigger battery.

And it is def not running Symbian! My guess, Harmattan with S-Anna icons (updatable to MeeGo 1.2 when ready)

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Update every 6 months? Source?
I thought in approx. a year meego support will stop.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

or announcing in a couple of months WP7 is the way forward and there will be no further investment in meego?

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Given the lack of support for the N900 by Nokia it seems most sensible people's money would be better spent on the SGSII or HTC Sensation. Even the LG meego os phone maybe a better option[/QUOTE]

I agree but I might still get the N9 just because of the aluminium-unibody-tilt-qwerty (my favourite form factor).

If there is an Android device with that form-factor, I'd probably (barely) choose the Android based one, since MeeGo still has a long way to go, and has no 3rd party support.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

That facebook page is not an official MeeGo page, just some fake page someone set up. I know that Engadget links to it, but they have made a mistake. See stskeeps post at http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...ay/004080.html

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

There is no MeeGo vendor covenant (despite Stskeeps' attempts), and the Harmattan device will be "MeeGo-compatible", i.e. provide the MeeGo API.

So suggesting that anyone who gets a Harmattan device will be able to run MeeGo updates is a stretch; and even if possible there's still a long way to go before MeeGo's reference UX(es) are anywhere near as polished as Nokia's own (presumably closed source) ones. It only takes one ABI break and the ability to run Nokia's UI over a MeeGo core goes away.

Unfortunately, with Nokia's current management, relying on Nokia for any longterm support or viability is risky at best, and potentially foolish if someone were to base purchasing decisions on it. There've already been hints that "Future Disruptions'" remit is not limited to MeeGo, and that it is expected they'll go and look at other potentially disruptive technologies after the Harmattan programme is launched.

When the device is released, evaluate it on what it can do at that point, what capabilities the community have to enhance it (through apps or CSSU equivalents) and how big the community for it actually is.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

teasers aint they a waste of money... pause play just to get a quick look..

if only it could run n900 symbian and windows apps o yeah and to be open source...would be the best...i think nokia needs to stick to one source and grow a big community like droid an iphone...

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 

Unfortunately I read on here somewhere specifically that the app manager does suck!

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

As said, MeeGo is *part* of future disruptions.

No doubt everyone should do that. Never blindly buy something. My intention wasn't to push anyone to buy that device.
I'm just sick of all that Nokia bashing. Yes they made a decision. Yes, we don't like it.
But did you know most Nokia employees don't like it either and they want MeeGo as success?
So I for my part will go ahead and work with every MeeGo-device I can get. Even if it is from "evil-Nokia".

Also Nokia said clearly to me, that if this device will be a commercial success they of course will continue to push MeeGo.
WP7 will mostly replace Symbian. That's because Nokia does have a problem with delays and buggy software at Symbian. So they need a company making software for them.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

...for now.

Absolutely. And everyone I know at Nokia has my sympathy - I certainly wouldn't have wanted to work there: to go through the elation of my small project was now the basis of Nokia's future strategy, only to have it relegated to a 770/N800-era R&D project.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

So what do you say to Nokias statement that Meego support will stop June 2012?

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

That as never been stated publicly as far as I'm aware

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Not publicly, but in an internal memo

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04...kia_cuts_memo/

Prob is Nokia burnt everyone's fingers with the N900 and it looks like a similar level of support will be given, however I do love the look of the N9 and OS. Tragic!

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Exactly. There were never such a statement. I know that the budget for MeeGo is already planned at the moment for about one year from now on.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04...kia_cuts_memo/

PS Im sensing the WOMworld in you;)

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

As part of Elop's changes, have Nokia changed from a six-month budget approval process? Although there may be a plan for another year, it might not have been approved yet (unfortunately).

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

No, I'm not working for WOMWorld if you mean that.

edit: I don't know how the budget is approved.
They just told me that one year timeframe...

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

This is what it said: "that the majority of MeeGo activities are planned to be discontinued by the end of June 2012"

This is something we already knew, it means meego is reduced to R/D status like 770/N800 era, just like Elop said. The "death" bit is added by the register for drama and effect. Would have been even more effective had they left out the "the majority of" bit too, but at least they didn't go that far to blow this up.
I was actually wondering where all that nonsense about june 2012 was coming from. Thanks for the info :)

EDIT: Actually the bit I quoted is not a quote in the article, so that bit was also only the writers version of it. Who knows what it actually said.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Symbian is the only OS that has been announced dead. MeeGo is part of the future distrupution.

No i'm not stupid and like many here i expect no major support for the Harmattan device(s). It is possible that the consumer device takes off and more time is put in to it, but these are just maybes.

As far as i'm concerned the wait is finally getting closer to the end and i would honestly be ready to pay silly money to buy this thing or the consumer device. How ever it is.

Just don't feed some of these people that support will be there and let them prove themself for those who need/want solid support behind for the OS. Maemo 5 already had it's follower announced year before N900 announcement and many of us knew Maemo 5 was not going to get 100% support behind it(while things didn't go exactly like above).
This time i don't wanna see bloggers putting stuff out there never been said by Nokia or this community hyping that support will be there.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

If they really fit my needs and wishlist... 1500€ or more?

• long-term update path
• Terminal with root access
• solid casing - body: magnesium alloy
• scratch protected resistive screen
• easily removable and huge battery
• Dualcore
• 768MB RAM
• 64GB Internal Storage
• SD card slot
• IR Transmitter and receiver
• Camera Cover that starts a app as soon as I open it
• totally DRM free
• A nice Pen to store somewhere inside the Device
• dual SIM
• Keyboard with 4 coursor keys (a Space key with only a single button lenght would be okay for me on exchange)
• a adressbook with userdefined fields to fill in
• emulator for Android apps preinstalled
• a extra button to reach the Taskswitcher - as currently ShortCutD emulates using the camera Button

If the device has something missing from my wish list I have to think again about how much I would pay for it? :rolleyes:

If it's based on Intel Atom instead of ARM it would be nice to have Windows Home Premium or Ubuntu as a Dual Boot option together with MeeGo. Connected with HDMI out and 1080p it would be a nice feature using it as PC replacement together with Bluetooth Mouse and Bluetooth Keyboard. In this case (it would need 2GB RAM) and if it fulfills all points from my list above, what about 2000€ ? :D

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

On my side, I believe that Harmattan is ready for many months (supposed to be delivered at the end of last year) so they had plenty of time to polish it further?!
I do not expect much Nokia support. But if at least I can dual boot with Meego that would be fantastic :)
Then the rest is 3rd party apps and if we have at least what is for the N900, I would be satisfied (not 100% but the % is enough).
But let's see the hardware first ;)

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

@helmuth you are looking the fujitsi LOOX that dual boots windows 7 and symbian
P.S didnt you know that the n900 boots ubuntu and is usable with the touchscreen and keyboard or bluetooth mouse and keyboard

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Just kidding, gerbs, but glad I made you laugh. We can't take this stuff tooooo seriously. I have to agree with you that unless the top knobs at Nokia have had some kind of epiphany (maybe while they were all asleep) support for this thing is not something I would say is a certainty. At all. You're right about Maemo, I'm a big fan too.
As far as support goes, I'm with you on the community. Man, I've had a million times more support from this community than anything else Nokia has offered me in the last 9 months. Can we assume that maemo.org has been given a life-extension with another Maemo-type device coming? Hope so.

Community, community, community :)

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

I can't see a keyboard on the Fujitsu LOOX images. :confused: Have I overyeen something?
And I had symbian in the past. I wouldn't buy such kind of device again. It would be a to large step back to the past. So it doesn't fit my needs. Sorry. :)

Yes, but the TV out resolution is not very high and because of the limited RAM it doesn't run very well.