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Looks like an actual review of the tablet is now out (and came out a few days ago -- sorry if this has been noted elsewhere already); note that it is in Finnish (but the Google translation seemed mostly readable):

http://www.digitoday.fi/vimpaimet/20...t/201511074/66

The reviewer finds that the tablet has sufficient processing power (he/she compares against the Jolla phone), a decent screen (but not quite as good as the iPad / Samsung competitors), decent battery life (better than I had expected), and pretty awful cameras :).

Apparently, the most significant issue the reviewer found was compatibility with Android apps. Perhaps due to the Intel processor (I wasn't quite sure on this point) many of the apps are not able to run. So, something to beware of if you are intending to use Android stuff on your tablet...

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interesting to see the Aptoide webstore mentioned, i was never very comfortable with Yandex as a threat vector with trusted access into my device.

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Well, mostly. My favourite sentence:

But that's actually not Google's fault, translating company name... :D

Aptoide store is actually already available for Jolla phone, too. You can get it in the Jolla store.

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That part of the article is a bit vague but imho it means probably the different architectures used in the tablet (x86) and in the phone (ARM). For example: https://together.jolla.com/question/...izing-the-ndk/

For the same reason I guess that over 90 % of the apps currently in the Jolla Store for the phone are not available during this year for the tablet. To convert the pre-existing apps for the tablet and to get them in the store devs have to do some work:

1) Adapt the app UI for the bigger resolution. Most of the current apps will look awful on the tablet if some serious changes are not done for the UI. Depending on app this might take only some hours but I'm pretty confident that this means dozens of hours of additional work for many of the devs.

2) Compile the app for x86. This should be easy.

I might get maybe one of my apps converted during this year (if the tablet SDK is released before October), rest of them maybe next year.

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Difficult to call a couple of paragraphs a review. It's a small preview, even if it is on final software / hardware.

Re: Aptoide ... it's been available for over a year.

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I had a Motorola Razr i with Intel x86 for about a month 1,5 years ago and I didn't find any Android apps that were missing from the Play Store. What has changed since then (if I have to believe that so-called review)?

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It's not on final software, as mentioned in the article. Version tested was 1.1.9.26, updates were also pushed during tests. Hopefully it's not too buggy on delivery...

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I guess it has something to do with the Alien Dalvik + x86.

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I guess the reviewer has misunderstood what's causing problems. Most likely the issue is in Android compatibility layer, which has to be adapted to x86 same way it had to be adapted to Qualcomm chip on Jolla phone. It was quite unstable on initial release back then... hopefully it's not that bad on release.

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Intel has developed ARM-emulation for Android NDK stuff, and since the tablet is built on Intel's reference platform, Intel might license its technology for use on the tablet.

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I kinda think to remember some statements/hints that this technology (ARM-on-x86 emulation for running native ARM/NDK Android code).

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BTW, the tablet tech specs have been updated on the tablet website and a couple of other places with the term "Bluetooth 3.0", to more precisely describe the form of bluetooth available. (This follows a discussion of Bluetooth naming schemes at TJC.) Not a big deal in my opinion, but just in case folks are interested... :)

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New update on the Jolla Blog.

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" The shipment from the supplier’s warehouse to the lamination factory (and through customs)"

"The shipment of displays was sent again from the warehouse last weekend. We received the displays today, and now we can start the display lamination. "

WE received, we laminate .. Are these actually the Jolla Sailors waiting in China / Finland for batch of displays to arrive from Taiwan?

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I would have liked to see a cover over the Micro SD slot.

Probably I will leave the card inserted and put some tape over it.

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"Originally the logo was printed in landscape, but after some considerations we realized that it works better in portrait. "

Landscape , portret.. does it really matter: the logo is hardly visible.

I can make more publicity for Jolla with those stickers than with the actual Jolla tablet or phone...

Missed chance to create an eye catching yet stylish logo print..

Where is the powered by Sailfish OS sticker?

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They changed back logo to use portrait! DAMN Now i will cancel my order :mad:

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What a deal breaker, eh? :D
Use the sticker in the box and place it in your favorite landscape orientation over the hardly visible Jolla logo. Problem fixed! :)

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Why not just have it both ways ? ;-)

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okay, seriously. I have wondered about the toilets on something like that.

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We only get two stickers per Jolla purchase to change our mind ;)

An e-ink TOH with dynamically oriented logo and own creative text / application info display would be nice.

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Another Jolla support page has been updated for the tablet, this time describing how to use the Aptoide Android store:

https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a...Aptoide-Store-

Really, there's no difference in usage between the phone and the tablet here, but it's nice to see some more tablet screenshots. :)

https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/a...0904112349.png

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For those who own a Jolla Phone and applied to early access:

- Planned to be released for Early Access customers on Monday, September 7th.
- Last known internal test version is Sailfish OS 1.1.9.27 Eineheminlampi

Source:
http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2015/...Hkwafc.twitter

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Some Sailfish 2.0 pics and stuff:

http://sailfishmods.de/wordpress/201...iner-einblick/

It seems that they have finally changed that ugly default button. And you can still close apps by swiping down if I understood it right(used google translate).

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MisterMaster, yes the Option to close an app like before in SFOS is with 2.0 possible too :)

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The new button looks ugly

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It is not perfect, but I find it much better than the previous design. The previous look was a mystery to me, because it looked so out of place, I tried to avoid it when developing apps for SailfishOS at all costs.
I even had a suspicion that they made it so ugly (more weird than ugly actually - one occurrence look kinda' nice, but the more buttons I saw, the more I was fed up) on purpose as an incentive for developers to do buton-less interfaces :D

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I have to disagree about the buttons.

For me it looks like Jolla has given up the whole idea with unique UI and now going android UI route.

This is probadly because end users are stupid. "Hey where are the buttons, it does not look like android blablabla"

Now they implement similar ugly rectangles like everyone else and the developers will not think when they design they'r apps and will use it everywhere even where they should not.

By that I don't try to point any finger at devs on TMO :cool:

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So this looks good?
http://i.imgur.com/BqC3pZT.png

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Yes it does. It wouldn't look better with "real" buttons, at least.

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FWIW, my relatively modern AV receiver has flat buttons like that and they look as good as any other button. The label will last longer than rectangle buttons. Buttons are buttons.

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From UX perspective in our Web infested lives, something that looks like a link is not usually used as a button, but instead for navigation. :)

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Compared to what? but why use button et all in this example? think different.

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Sailfish 2.0 and anything else.


Edit:

Well I guess the button is ok but the button and the text above together looks weird for me especially if there is more than one in one page and they have different sizes.

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Moved Marc Dillon posts to this thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95935
Plz keep Mar Dilllon related talk to that thread.

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Another review of the tablet is out, this time in Die Welt:

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/webwel...ge-sicher.html

Long story short: these guys don't like the lack of Wifi ac, the reflectiveness of the screen, the crappy cameras, or the price. :) On the other hand, they had no problem with Android apps, note that the tablet barely gets warm even when running demanding apps, and talk favorably about the OS and about Jolla's emphasis on privacy...

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Hi. Been on vacation, travel and such and haven't kept up with things of late. Would someone please give the current status on when the Jolla tablet will be shipped out to those that supported the indiegogo campaign.
A link would be fine. Really looking forward to having the tablet to play with! Thanks!

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Ah, a variety of logistical issues and other snags have been impeding progress, but shipping should begin literally any day now. :) Their latest target to begin shipping was "Early September", and they haven't backed off from that target yet. They've also mentioned that they plan to finish shipping to all the early contributors before the end of October.

For more in-depth detail, here's Jolla's FAQ page for early campaign contributors:

https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a...ampaign-rounds

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Thanks...but it's the same, rather lame review, published already by Bild. Typical these-days-journalists-copy-paste-behaviour. I have nothing against the negative points mentioned, as those have to be mentioned for every product - but it's just crazy that alternative (and IMO often more interesting) software gets reviewed by some amateurs, while so many words are wasted on each Android/iOS non-feature reviews. But maybe I'm not the typical mainstream-news reader.