maemo.org - Talk - Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

UK people: Argos have the sim-free X in black on offer at £229 (there maybe an additional small saving through quidco/topcashback).

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5725861

jurop88

2017-08-11 04:46

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Two hints excerpted from last meeting log

1) Jolla version

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08:37:54 <remote_> mm... news on cbeta progress?
08:38:51 <kayuz6> and the cbeta is doing the test with 2.1.2 or 2.1.1 image on xperia x?
08:39:14 <Jaymzz_> remote_: It might see a slight delay as we might change some plans, but nothing is concrete so it is on-going as before.
08:39:15 <sledges> 2.1.2
08:39:27 <Jaymzz_> kayuz6: 2.1.2 is being tested by cbeta
08:39:36 <Jaymzz_> on Xperia

...and...

2) Xperia X camera

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08:51:59 <sledges> remote_: cbeta testers are loving xperia's camera ^-^

Anyone who knows 2.1.2 expected release date?

BluesLee

2017-08-11 05:10

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Anyone who knows 2.1.2 expected release date?

Christmas 2017?:D Slight delay is not of any value regarding the release date if you don't know the initial release plan.

mariusmssj

2017-08-11 07:32

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Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1532422)

UK people: Argos have the sim-free X in black on offer at £229 (there maybe an additional small saving through quidco/topcashback).

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5725861

Bought it for my girlfriend as her AquaFish was dying. She really likes it, seems like a great phone but only downside is that it runs android :(

pagis

2017-08-11 08:37

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Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1532443)

Christmas 2017?:D Slight delay is not of any value regarding the release date if you don't know the initial release plan.

The danger is that, slipping release dates, ppl will not be able to find Xperia X devices.

BluesLee

2017-08-11 16:49

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Originally Posted by pagis (Post 1532447)

The danger is that, slipping release dates, ppl will not be able to find Xperia X devices.

You are really optimistic. I would say: The danger is that, slipping release dates, ppl will not consider Sailfishos on an Xperia device.

Dave999

2017-08-11 19:51

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so how much do you think the port will cost? Half refund? Or more or less?

nieldk

2017-08-11 20:17

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1532471)

so how much do you think the port will cost? Half refund? Or more or less?

You mean half of half refund or all of half refund or more of what we’ve got 😂

Dave999

2017-08-11 20:19

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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1532474)

You mean half of half refund or all of half refund or more of what we’ve got 😂

I mean half Refund, 50% of a tablet.

Ariadeno

2017-08-11 22:10

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1532475)

I mean half Refund, 50% of a tablet.

So you mean The Other Half™

meloferz

2017-08-12 22:31

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Today I received my Xperia X [emoji847]
Now just waiting Jolla to release the Sailfish OS image for it

Enviado desde mi F5121 mediante Tapatalk

rob_kouw

2017-08-13 09:58

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Just ordered mine, newish second hand. Now the waiting starts for the port including Alien Dalvik. Fingers crossed!
FYI: I paid 180 euro for a black one. Rose Gold seems cheaper ;)

explit

2017-08-15 06:28

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Got mine from Ebay germany. for 199,- eur.
The F5121 is one of the Xperia X offered @ ALDI in Germany.

Condition is Like new, but the box was opened. No Branding, No Sim-Lock. Anything is working fine.
Came wis Android 7.0.
Downgraded to 6.0, created TA-Partition-Backup (DRM) and unlocked Bootloader.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Sony-XPERIA-X...53.m2749.l2649

explit

2017-08-15 13:21

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Come on, Jolla !

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.
RELEASE THE DAMN XPERIA X IMAGE !
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...1096551783.png

lkravovicz

2017-08-15 13:23

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From today's jolla blog cbeta comments

> James Noori on August 15, 2017 at 12:24 pm
> It is coming! Stay tuned ;) We have been making great progress!

meloferz

2017-08-15 14:56

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Originally Posted by lkravovicz (Post 1532644)

From today's jolla blog cbeta comments

> James Noorion August 15, 2017 at 12:24 pm
> It is coming! Stay tuned ;) We have been making great progress!

Well... James said that before [emoji848]
But hope they release soon the image

Enviado desde mi F5121 mediante Tapatalk

Heik	2017-08-15 14:57

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Originally Posted by explit (Post 1532622)

I have Xperia X with Android 7.1.1. I am not at all familiar about Android firmwares. CDA of my F5121 is 1302-9422 Rev 4. In XperiFirm I cannot find that CDA (nor any related to Finland, if that matters). Can I use any of the listed firmwares to downgrade?
I also have F5122 with 1302-3039 Rev2. How about it ?

r0kk3rz

2017-08-15 15:01

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Originally Posted by explit (Post 1532643)

Come on, Jolla !

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.
RELEASE THE DAMN XPERIA X IMAGE !
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...1096551783.png

You don't want it yet, its not ready :P

BluesLee

2017-08-15 15:05

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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1532657)

You don't want it yet, its not ready :P

You don't know what people are willing to use if there are no real alternatives in their eyes, for instance a Sony tablet with Sailfishos without any sensors, bluetooth, gps, camera .. did i forgot something? :D

By the way, how do you know that its nor ready yet?

meloferz

2017-08-15 15:20

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Originally Posted by Heik (Post 1532656)

You can flash any version of CDA on your phone, my Xperia X is from USA and hasn't fingerprint enabled, so I flashed from my region Generic LAM, which have a different CDA and works as expected and with fingerprint enabled [emoji847]

Enviado desde mi F5121 mediante Tapatalk

Heik	2017-08-15 15:50

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Originally Posted by meloferz (Post 1532659)

Thank you for the info.

r0kk3rz

2017-08-15 16:56

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Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1532658)

gps works, but you forgot about video playback :D

But honestly, would you expect people to pay for something as broken as that sony tab image?

explit

2017-08-15 19:05

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Originally Posted by Heik (Post 1532656)

That doesn't matters, i flashed this CDA 1301-2283 Commercial and Journalist. Its Android 6.0

Afterwards you can extract TA-Partition (DRM-Keys) and upgrade to your CDA (Android 7.1.1) again.

The whole process of Downgrade, TA-Extraction and Bootloader Unlock is very well described here. But its unfortunately in German.

http://sailfishmods.de/2017/07/howto...ys-bootloader/

karlos devel

2017-08-15 19:31

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Originally Posted by explit (Post 1532622)

Got mine from Ebay germany. for 199,- eur.
The F5121 is one of the Xperia X offered @ ALDI in Germany.

Downgraded to 6.0, created TA-Partition-Backup (DRM) and unlocked Bootloader.

Why downgrade explit?

chenliangchen

2017-08-15 19:35

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Originally Posted by karlos devel (Post 1532679)

Why downgrade explit?

Because you can't back up your DRM or other Sony specific blobs under Nougat.

karlos devel

2017-08-15 19:45

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Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1532680)

Because you can't back up your DRM or other Sony specific blobs under Nougat.

Thank very much Chen... This applies only to sony phones under nougat or any phone under nougat?

chenliangchen

2017-08-15 19:53

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Originally Posted by karlos devel (Post 1532683)

Thank very much Chen... This applies only to sony phones under nougat or any phone under nougat?

As far as I know only Sony phones needs to back up this DRM thing, otherwise you will lose certain function in camera (noise cancellation?) And screen colour enhancement.

Other manufacturers will just display you a warning screen (like Motorola) or lose warranty or can't do future OTA but won't have a functional loss as Sony.

MJ m	2017-08-17 19:46

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If you unlock bootloader without saving DRM-keys and TA, are they lost forever? (cannot get them back by flashing something, or by any means?) islosing DRM-keys and TA preventing me from installing Sailfish? (I understood features that require them aren't going to be ported by jolla anyway?) Or is backing them up only for if you want to return to Android stock ROM? Thanks.

meloferz

2017-08-17 20:54

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Originally Posted by MJ m (Post 1532791)

If you unlock your bootloader you lost your DRM keys forever, the purpose of backup the DRM keys, is when you relock de bootloader and restore your DRM keys, you let your phone as it was never touched, after flashing stock rom

Enviado desde mi F5121 mediante Tapatalk

meloferz

2017-08-17 21:05

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The only way to have Sailfish OS, installed on my old Xperia from one unfinished port. Come on Jolla hahaha https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...13a216858c.jpg

Enviado desde mi F5121 mediante Tapatalk

rob_kouw

2017-08-18 06:10

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So where did you find that port?

explit

2017-08-18 06:18

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Its Z2 on the Photo, it should be Xperia X ! :)

acrux

2017-08-18 08:36

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So, got my new XperiaX F5121 Graphite Black 1302-3093 Rev4 yesterday.
Well - it is very small in comparison of my Nexux 6. Maybe even too small... :p And a lot of bloat preinstalled...
Probably don't care of DRM keys.
Now waiting for Sailfish OS ;)
But also OmniROM is supporting XperiaX very well and there are recent improvements in the area of camera: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...nirom-t3603055

lantern

2017-08-18 08:58

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Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1532821)

So, got my new XperiaX F5121 Graphite Black 1302-3093 Rev4 yesterday.

Do you know which country version it is? Hong Kong or China?

mariusmssj

2017-08-18 10:23

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Originally Posted by meloferz (Post 1532802)

But that Z2 has a 32bit processor the Xperia X is 64bit

tortoisedoc

2017-08-18 10:27

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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1532657)

You don't want it yet, its not ready :P

Dont tell us what we want! We know what we want, errr :P

acrux

2017-08-18 10:53

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Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1532822)

Do you know which country version it is? Hong Kong or China?

Hmm, on the package it says "Made inChina" :D

But it seems to be for CY ES FR GR PT region.

lantern

2017-08-18 15:19

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Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1532828)

Hmm, on the package it says "Made inChina" :D

But it seems to be for CY ES FR GR PT region.

Strange. My F5122 with the same CDA (1302-3039), but revision 2 has "ZH,EN" languages specified on the box.

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