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specc 2012-07-23 07:26
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1241429)
wait, what? you do know you are quoting different people, right?
Different "people", same troll. I mean please, read through this thread. I could have "reported" every single one of you for personal attack on me and Lumiaman in almost every single post. The funny thing is that danramos is spot on in his assessment of this crowd, and all that follows from that.

Anyway, Helsinki already down 3%. Not that it means anything.

switch-hitter 2012-07-23 07:48
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by specc (Post 1241474)
Different "people", same troll. I mean please, read through this thread. I could have "reported" every single one of you for personal attack on me and Lumiaman in almost every single post. The funny thing is that danramos is spot on in his assessment of this crowd, and all that follows from that.

Anyway, Helsinki already down 3%. Not that it means anything.
It seems to me I've given verifiable facts and figures and in return got baseless assertions and racial stereotypes.

But hey, if you play the victim knock yourself out.

specc 2012-07-23 08:00
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1241481)
It seems to me I've given verifiable facts and figures and in return got baseless assertions and racial stereotypes.

But hey, if you play the victim knock yourself out.
In the mean time, stocks down 3.5%

danramos 2012-07-23 08:11
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by specc (Post 1241474)
Different "people", same troll. I mean please, read through this thread. I could have "reported" every single one of you for personal attack on me and Lumiaman in almost every single post. The funny thing is that danramos is spot on in his assessment of this crowd, and all that follows from that.

Anyway, Helsinki already down 3%. Not that it means anything.
Oh the irony.

specc 2012-07-23 08:21
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1241492)
Oh the irony.
This crowd danramos, not Nokia ;) Irony nevertheless :)

volt 2012-07-23 10:31
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Yeah...

Nok1V started at 1.41 euro today, compared to 1.52 friday.
Dropped to 1.36, currently 1.39.

Lowest yet was 1.33 last week.

volt 2012-07-23 10:41
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
There is some news.

Nokia is considering a change in strategy.

No, not the way you might have been hoping. They are considering dumping the traditional strategy of selling to as many as possible in as many as possible places in Europe. Instead they want to implement the US strategy that's been so "successful" for them in the US. Pick a few operators and have exclusive partnerships. This is surely an result of moving the "successful" US market director up to global market director. Not at all suited here where we have loads of operators per country.

Should shake the stock down even a few more cents.

Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...86M00520120723

Dave999 2012-07-23 10:45
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Yes, not working with exclusivity. Who will buy a phone that is locked to a operator. That is insane. FREEDOM!!

By the way. Samsung eating the rest(Apple,nokia,Sony,htc...) ALIVE!

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/tech...02300320F.HTML

Cue 2012-07-23 10:58
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 1241548)
There is some news.

Nokia is considering a change in strategy.

No, not the way you might have been hoping. They are considering dumping the traditional strategy of selling to as many as possible in as many as possible places in Europe. Instead they want to implement the US strategy that's been so "successful" for them in the US. Pick a few operators and have exclusive partnerships. This is surely an result of moving the "successful" US market director up to global market director. Not at all suited here where we have loads of operators per country.

Should shake the stock down even a few more cents.

Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...86M00520120723
This might mean their next phone is going to be priced very high. They are trying to copy Apples initial strategy. Take your guesses at the price: £600? $700? Maybe they are doing the complete oppisite and wish to take another huge loss for mind/market share.
It will be in the extremes in any case.

Wonder what this bit means though:
Quote:
The newspaper cited one person with knowledge of the talks as saying these relationship will also offer the operator a financial stake in the success of the range.
Carriers getting app revenue, or something else entirely?

Rauha 2012-07-23 11:05
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 1241548)
They are considering dumping the traditional strategy of selling to as many as possible in as many as possible places in Europe. Instead they want to implement the US strategy that's been so "successful" for them in the US. Pick a few operators and have exclusive partnerships. This is surely an result of moving the "successful" US market director up to global market director. Not at all suited here where we have loads of operators per country.
They are considering same kind of revenue sharing model as what Apple does with iPhone, which is pretty freaking amazing. They actually think that they still have enough brand recognition, hype and loyalty to pull that one off. From stupid to delusional.


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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1241101)
What if nokia actually release an highend wp8 phone with camera like 808. Wouldn't that itself be a success?
That would be good for the camera-geek niche. Its not a huge market, but large enough for decent revenue. Would help a bit, but I don't think that excellent camera really is a market transforming killer feature that would somehow give WP7/8/WhatEverNumber mass market appeal.


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