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tps 2007-12-21 00:36

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krbvroc1 (Post 112494)
Those files are HTTP 404 at this point.

And what about all the dependencies?

Well, about 800 downloads are done already. (shrug)

As far as the dependencies, if someone wants to get them to me (tps at buoy dot com), I'll upload them. I grabbed what I could off the repositories as it would let me.

Tim

iball 2007-12-21 00:42

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
No excuse for such a piss-poor repository. NO excuse.
Folks have known for a LOOOONG time now that the "official" repositories had crap for bandwidth yet the Canola2 developers STILL decided to go and release a major application on it?
That's not just "oops", that's "pretty damn stupid". I don't care if they wrote the best application on the planet, when they fail the common-sense test they fail, period.
They even had a recent hint when folks had to re-host the official OS2008 firmware for the N800. That was MUCH larger than Canola2 and yet only took me 10 minutes to download from somewhere OTHER than the official Nokia website hosting it.

Yup, I'm pretty much going to ignore Canola2 until the developers figure out how the internet works and get it hosted on a REAL repository with some bandwidth.
It's almost 2008, there is not one single excuse for not having the bandwidth nor the stable servers to host Canola2.
Maybe if this were 1998 I MIGHT understand, but no more. A single server on a T1 doesn't cut it at all.

barbieri 2007-12-21 00:46

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonshine (Post 112454)
So it won't look for a cover art image file within an album directory? Or coverart embedded in the file? :confused: Woah... That seems so simple for such a slick piece of software.

I can't imagine it's performance related as photos are resized very quickly (and cached?) within the same app.

I guess I'm lost here, as I saw coverart in the demo video. So is the answer that:

a) the *only* way to have cover art right now is by taking a look at the python script from the GIT repo

or

b) for cover art to show you must follow the following rules. (file names, embedded, etc)

No embedded cover art or loaders for "cover.jpg" in folders yet. Guys, we're trying to get the foundations working well, these things can be handled elsewhere, like a conversion script. You can expect something new related to this by January, when we'll release a bugfix version, until then you have to help yourself :-(

krbvroc1 2007-12-21 00:51

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tps (Post 112524)
Well, about 800 downloads are done already. (shrug)

Tim


How can it be that others can reach it and I cant? Very odd... None of your links work for me.

Quote:


Not Found
The requested URL /~tps/canola2.install was not found on this server.


krbvroc1 2007-12-21 00:53

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbieri (Post 112531)
You can expect something new related to this by January, when we'll release a bugfix version, until then you have to help yourself :-(

Maybe some of us will have been able to download it by then! Nokia should be disgraced...

jhoff80 2007-12-21 00:57

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
Is it correct that WMA support isn't in this program?

barbieri 2007-12-21 00:59

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 112527)
No excuse for such a piss-poor repository. NO excuse.
Folks have known for a LOOOONG time now that the "official" repositories had crap for bandwidth yet the Canola2 developers STILL decided to go and release a major application on it?
That's not just "oops", that's "pretty damn stupid". I don't care if they wrote the best application on the planet, when they fail the common-sense test they fail, period.
They even had a recent hint when folks had to re-host the official OS2008 firmware for the N800. That was MUCH larger than Canola2 and yet only took me 10 minutes to download from somewhere OTHER than the official Nokia website hosting it.

Yup, I'm pretty much going to ignore Canola2 until the developers figure out how the internet works and get it hosted on a REAL repository with some bandwidth.
It's almost 2008, there is not one single excuse for not having the bandwidth nor the stable servers to host Canola2.
Maybe if this were 1998 I MIGHT understand, but no more. A single server on a T1 doesn't cut it at all.

I added bold around decided because: have you thought about the possibility of having no other option? ;-) Unfortunately that was the case, and we're paying the price (it's a beta, we want feedback about our software, not about repos giving 404 all the time)

rcadden 2007-12-21 01:04

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
I like to think that this was something that was unavoidable by the Canola team, but I'm sorry. I don't buy it. It's pretty well known and documented that anything hosted by maemo (firmware updates, repos, etc) get hosed pretty easily. Adding Canola to the mix didn't help anything.

krbvroc1 2007-12-21 01:13

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbieri (Post 112539)
Unfortunately that was the case, and we're paying the price (it's a beta, we want feedback about our software, not about repos giving 404 all the time)

Have you considered simply creating a tar ball with all the .deb files, emailing it to a few people who are willing to host the files and/or put it on bitorrent? Then those of us could move those files into our /var/cache/apt/archives directory and install.

Maybe a tarball for chinook at least. I'm trying to download the files to do this but its impossible even at this moment. The maemo servers never really did recover from any other OS release either, instead the 'solution' was kind members hosting the files elsewhere and/or on a torrent. I know I downloaded mine from a link someone provided here.

ebe51 2007-12-21 01:14

Re: The itT Canola2 Beta discussion thread
 
i'm still having download problems, but i think i have an idea of how to speed things along. can you all please stop trying until i post back that have completed the download at which time you all can start trying again.


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