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juiceme 2017-10-17 10:45

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1537063)

Thanks!
I was not aware of the project. Cutespot is nice but an official application is welcome too.

mscion 2017-10-17 15:51

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
Well, Purism has raised nearly $1.8 million. With 6 days to go they will probably end up just shy of $2 million which is good and exceeds the original goal by approximately 20%. Just looking at the funding page it seems like Purism has to produce about 2500 Librum 5 phones by about or around Jan 2019. Do you think this is doable? How does the probability of Purism's successful delivery of the Librum 5 compare to the Jolla Tablet. Sadly, Jolla just fell short of being able to deliver tablet (except to a few folks).

mikecomputing 2017-10-17 16:20

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1537016)
Of those all in the list, the only thing I need is spotify, and guess what; cutespot works just perfect :D

cutespot is far from perfect also spotify has removed the binaries needed by cutespot. Not even sure the old so files provided will work on iMX6.

einmaleins 2017-10-17 18:20

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1536997)
I hajack your quiestion since I think it is interesting question...

I desperately need below apps if I want to replace my current phone with librem. The list shows that I can't fully replace. For me librem will be used as prof & concept and playing. Replacing main usage I doubt cause of.

...

I still don't understand why all these companies like Deutsche Bahn (here in Germany) don't invest in complete (content and functional) web pages at first place. A decent browser with HTML5 support would be needed and that's it. It doesn't have to be perfect but it would not exclude people from using "essential" services. An additional app is still fine but couldn't it be step #2...

elastic 2017-10-17 18:54

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. A decent browser with HTML5 support would be needed and that's it
And that’s the first point most of the alternative mobile OS have been failing so far - even the browser in FFOS had been worse than FF for Android ...

wicket 2017-10-18 16:51

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
For what it's worth, Purism's communication is quite poor. I'm still waiting for a response from this post from 9 days ago. It's a shame really as I was thinking of at least risking my funds on the dev kit for now. The Librem 5 would be a great target for my DebiaN900 successor (despite my criticisms), but if they don't respond within the next few days before the campaign ends, I'll have to give it a miss.

maegon9y00 2017-10-18 19:04

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1537213)
For what it's worth, Purism's communication is quite poor. I'm still waiting for a response from this post from 9 days ago. It's a shame really as I was thinking of at least risking my funds on the dev kit for now. The Librem 5 would be a great target for my DebiaN900 successor (despite my criticisms), but if they don't respond within the next few days before the campaign ends, I'll have to give it a miss.

Did you follow the forum rules?

What about other ways of communication:
Did you tried send them a concise email with your askings?

Your questions are very important.
A piece of advise. Don't show yourself skeptical, when asking. People wants enthusiast people, not to try to convince skeptcial ones.
Even you could want to work with them, so be appealing to them. Just my humble opinion.

wicket 2017-10-18 19:41

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by maegon9y00 (Post 1537227)
Did you follow the forum rules?

I believe so. Which part do you think I did not follow?

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Originally Posted by maegon9y00 (Post 1537227)
What about other ways of communication:
Did you tried send them a concise email with your askings?

No I didn't. I considered it but I decided that it would be more appropriate to post my questions publicly which would allow others to participate and voice their opinions. It would be rather spammy to send the same questions again in an email.

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Originally Posted by maegon9y00 (Post 1537227)
Your questions are very important.
A piece of advise. Don't show yourself skeptical, when asking. People wants enthusiast people, not to try to convince skeptcial ones.
Even you could want to work with them, so be appealing to them. Just my humble opinion.

The whole point of my post is that I am rather sceptical and I want to give them the opportunity to alleviate my scepticism.

Having said that, I thought I was enthusiastic. I didn't mention any of my complaints that I posted here on TMO, I congratulated them on reaching their target, I showed intent to purchase, and I made a suggestion of how they might be able to make their crowd funding campaign accessible to more people.

maegon9y00 2017-10-18 20:38

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1537232)
I believe so. Which part do you think I did not follow?

I don't know. Just asked. But put only your questions without explanations maybe. It is what you want they answer didn't you?

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The whole point of my post is that I am rather sceptical and I want to give them the opportunity to alleviate my scepticism.
Why you expect they alleviate you? Surely your skepticism is inherited from other crowdfunding and bad past experiencies. Not from Purism. They had been successful on what they had done until now.



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Having said that, I thought I was enthusiastic. I didn't mention any of my complaints that I posted here on TMO
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Excellent!. Complain is the far from being a way to get people closer.

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I congratulated them on reaching their target, I showed intent to purchase,
Great!

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and I made a suggestion of how they might be able to make their crowd funding campaign accessible to more people.
Your proposal was good, but after reading their philosophy and why's I understand the priority of Purism is not the $$. I mean, they don't put cheaper products as a priority. Their Vision is foremost the user's right to free software privacy, and security. The cost is not in first place. So, the money that backers pay is for User's right to Free Software Privacy, even at hardware level whenever it is possible.

Sorry, if this it's disturbing to you, I just try to put in the shoes of the admin who prefers answer some punctual questions, and not try to spend time to convince someone who even has not made an investment yet, and perhaps never do because is skeptical. Do you get what I am trying to say?.

Not offense at all intended.

---- and they got $1,803,834 and 5 days to go ---

gerbick 2017-10-18 21:25

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
Now that the campaign was successful and now soon over; I hope that they start to communicate their trials and triumphs.

Luck to them. I'm watching and cheering from afar.


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