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specc 2012-07-25 07:53
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1242475)
Why argue so vehemently? Just let the story unfold. Let's watch the stock values and let's see how much more foolish their grandiloquence will look as time goes on.
Nokia stock at the moment is just a nest with speculation and manipulation. It will go up and down, but as an average it will stay put until some real news comes along, news about WP8 and Asha. Besides, as earlier stated, 85% of Nokia stock is in "safe" hands, they have not gone anywhere for the last 100 years, and are not likely to go anywhere now (the stock market doesn't care either way about that though).

So, what is happening in the phone industry? Clearly statistics shows WP is getting a hold. Not a firm grab by any stretch of the imagination, but instead of just one little finger, it is now holding with two stronger fingers. All this is thanks to Nokia. If you study statcounter, look at weekly charts, WP is at 13% now in Finland. It will climb some more, but not much due to WP8 coming. Symbian and iOS has peaked in Finland, Android is still going strong. Germany (for instance) is very different. iOS has peaked there as well, but this is mostly due to Android since WP is only at 2%, too small a number to interfere. But it has increased steadily.

What is happening? Finland is the precursor. WP8 will eat into the Apple, Android will be unaffected (for some time). This is also what operators want and what Samsung, HTC etc want. This will happen.

volt 2012-07-25 10:49
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
I don't know how long these temporarily generated images work... I think they work for some hours... But here's the current 5 day view for NOK1V:

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...d0441291dd.png

NokV1 is in Euros.

This indicates today may be a good day for Nokia, building on a good day yesterday.

Here's yesterday's NOK:NYSE to compare with:

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...92e8ca9241.png

NOK is in USD.

With these variations I bet it's possible for shorters to earn a bit.

volt 2012-07-25 11:09
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Just as a comparison, a coworker were ready to sell and cash in on Funcom... But he couldn't quite let go of it...

He should've.

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...1752f1969b.png

Dave999 2012-07-25 11:37
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
I love that when noka stock goes up, you are all quiet, but when it goes down, you are all quick to point it :D

Rauha 2012-07-25 12:12
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1242688)
I love that when noka stock goes up, you are all quiet, but when it goes down, you are all quick to point it :D
Trend is down. People are mostly just pointing out record lows. There hasn't been any real upturns for NOK for long time now. Just dead cat bounces. Typical for dying penny stocks.

"Even a dead cat will bounce if it falls from a great height"

SamGan 2012-07-25 12:23
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by specc (Post 1242601)
So, what is happening in the phone industry? Clearly statistics shows WP is getting a hold. Not a firm grab by any stretch of the imagination, but instead of just one little finger, it is now holding with two stronger fingers. All this is thanks to Nokia. If you study statcounter, look at weekly charts, WP is at 13% now in Finland. It will climb some more, but not much due to WP8 coming. Symbian and iOS has peaked in Finland, Android is still going strong. Germany (for instance) is very different. iOS has peaked there as well, but this is mostly due to Android since WP is only at 2%, too small a number to interfere. But it has increased steadily.

What is happening? Finland is the precursor. WP8 will eat into the Apple, Android will be unaffected (for some time). This is also what operators want and what Samsung, HTC etc want. This will happen.
Finland isn't a good country to base on. It is Nokia's home country and people there tend to give Nokia chance out of loyalty or pity. This is the only country in Europe where Lumia hasn't done too badly but it is not typical for Europe.

TimusEravan 2012-07-25 12:34
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Why is Elop still in charge? What are the share holders doing?

Cue 2012-07-25 13:42
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 1242588)
I guess it's early to determine if the SIII really has any effect, we'll only be able to see that after the Iphone 5 has arrived. But Apple revenues and market shares have been better than I like the last year or two.
That's true, the iPhone sales this quarter did fall short of estimates though. Partly due to several leaks in May coinciding with the SIII launch. Whether those leaks were planned or not I guess we will never know but somebody might of thought that stealing their thunder and extending the "Apple Pause" this year was within their interests if they predicted that the SIII was popular enough that people might defect. As a result some analysts increased their estimates for the next quarter instead, they simply shifted their sales.

volt 2012-07-25 14:03
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Pretty sure I hasn't been quiet about anything going up. Pretty sure I have linked to the graphs with actual values of actual numbers, regardless of if they're going up or down. Maybe someone talented in looking one page back can find some documentation of me saying something and linking some graph to back up my claim, even when Nokia wasn't going down just this morning. If I'm not mistaken.

But help me get something straight. This is going up? Wow, I didn't realize that. Apart from a couple of extra bad days where it was messing around with 1.40 and briefly lower, it's never been worse than the last week. 1.82 now? 1.84 was a new record low July 10th. Here I was thinking we were seeing a flat period with lots of ups and down, but I realize now thanks to your helpful helpfullness that I'm supposed to think of it as going up, somehow.

And I didn't realize I was beling all quiet. Sorry about that.

Cue 2012-07-25 14:15
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 1242770)
Pretty sure I hasn't been quiet about anything going up. Pretty sure I have linked to the graphs with actual values of actual numbers, regardless of if they're going up or down. Maybe someone talented in looking one page back can find some documentation of me saying something and linking some graph to back up my claim, even when Nokia wasn't going down just this morning. If I'm not mistaken.

But help me get something straight. This is going up? Wow, I didn't realize that. Apart from a couple of extra bad days where it was messing around with 1.40 and briefly lower, it's never been worse than the last week. 1.82 now? 1.84 was a new record low July 10th. Here I was thinking we were seeing a flat period with lots of ups and down, but I realize now thanks to your helpful helpfullness that I'm supposed to think of it as going up, somehow.

And I didn't realize I was beling all quiet. Sorry about that.
Just ignore posts like that. They lead nowhere meaningful. You and Kojacker have been posting prices regardless of it going up or down. Some people just enjoy fighting the tape (Lumiaman especially) and are expecting any fluctuation to mean a turnaround this soon.


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