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tso 2008-09-19 09:20

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
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Originally Posted by chlettn (Post 225162)
And CDMA also means that it is much harder to get network access without the carriers consent, since there is no such thing as a SIM card...

iirc, CDMA allows for a SIM like system, but its not required for CDMA to work, so most carriers that make use of CDMA dont bother with it.

btw, most of scandinavia is covered by a CDMA network, exclusively for data traffic.

i was accepted into their testing period, and the usb "modem" they sent over had a SIM slot under a hatch. but it had a bit of foam superglued inside...

could not get a connection while this was going on either, so i returned the kit and have had nothing to do with them since...

dan 2008-09-19 11:10

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
I like the idea of hspa because then you can use skype anywhere there are carrier hspa data networks. Very smart move by Nokia. I use pay as you go sim cards all over the world and they always have very cheap unlimited data plans with no contract but not cheap unlimited voice pay-as-you-go no contract plans.
Does anyone know if N900 will have two full sdhc card slots??

pycage 2008-09-19 11:17

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
Oh yeah, and the carriers will forbid you to use VOIP and IM with their networks, like they're already doing these days... :(

dan 2008-09-19 11:24

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
only in us and only with at&t. To be honest I really haven't had that problem abroad. Now I'm not on voip for hours on end. It works good. I just got back from China and I installed a dlink portable wireless in my hotel room and made quite a few skype calls with no problems. The best was Berlin they seem to have blanketed the city with wifi spots. Boingo was there but I used a local provider that charged me 6 euros a day and 15 euros for a full seven days of unlimited anywhere wireless data!

allnameswereout 2008-09-19 13:15

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
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Originally Posted by mullf (Post 225185)
You don't have to sign up for a long-term contract, if that is what you are getting at.

Good to know (what you say refers to Sprint Xohm).

This differs per WiMAX provider though. The same is true for HS*PA, but usually requires a contract.

allnameswereout 2008-09-19 13:19

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
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Originally Posted by pycage (Post 225252)
Oh yeah, and the carriers will forbid you to use VOIP and IM with their networks, like they're already doing these days... :(

Yes, some forbid this in their contract (NOT all!), but its questionable whether this holds up in court. Its also questionable if (and how) they're blocking VoIP or are going to block VoIP. I foresee some nice forum & wiki pages about this subject. :)

As VoIP is on the rise, it will change the way we communicate by voice one way or another. The question isn't if. Its when.

Its friday night, your weapon is the N900, start the revolution! :D

tso 2008-09-19 13:32

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 225174)
This is also one of the reasons paying per MB should not be accepted by a customer. The 3G network is just connected to a backbone here and there (owned or rented by the ISP) which is then connected to a PoP probably at a IXP. If the 3G provider is also a DSL or cable provider they probably use this very network to transfer the data. No, what they are doing is getting back their high investment costs for 3G (ROI) which in essence is a logical and fair thing (early adopters get **** service, beta test, and pay twice :o) but the way they do it is not fair. However, because other 3G providers have the very same problem, and the licensed spectrum only has X licensors there is not much competition. Asking customer to pay for an IP range (even /32) is another example or bullocks, and RIPE has declared this illegal, yet European ISPs continue to abuse a shady loop-hole!!

i suspect that the reasoning for the pay pr traffic is that while your transfering data, your taking up (a) channel(s) capacity on the local cell/antenna.

remember, wireless networking have more in common with a hub then a switch...

much like how old school long distance calls would take up one of a limited number of long distance wires, and therefor the telcos would want you to keep the call short so that the wired got freed up for other callers. quick solution, make the caller pay by the talk time.

with current fibreoptics and packet switched networks however...

sjgadsby 2008-09-19 13:48

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
Heh. A Nokia employee just told us that the N810 has already received two major releases.

tso 2008-09-19 13:51

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
heh, i guess i should allow karel to go "i told you so"...

fpp 2008-09-19 13:52

Re: Dr. Ari Jaaksi on Maemo 5
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 225289)
Heh. A Nokia employee just told us that the N810 has already received two major releases.

Yup. Strong smell of 770 déjà-vu in this room...


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