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zehjotkah 2010-03-16 15:24

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 569305)
No, it is not. Quoting from the article: "The first MeeGo device is targeted to be released during the second half of 2010."

Which operating system will this device run? Harmattan, or "the version of MeeGo coming after harmattan"?

the first meego device targeted to be released during the second half of 2010 won't run harmattan afaik. that also answers the question, if the n900 is getting meego (harmattan).

Freemantle 2010-03-16 15:25

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 569303)
Originally Posted by qgil http://talk.maemo.org/maemo/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
- For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo.

The bit I got confused over -
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 569290)
You cite Quim, then gloss over his comment that Harmattan is not MeeGo.

okay, sorry. misread your message. I read it like you'd said Quim had commented that Harmattan was not MeeGo. Hence my confusion.

Mistaken, as you've shown. cheers.

jsa 2010-03-16 15:31

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freemantle (Post 569331)
okay, sorry. misread your message. I read it like you'd said Quim had commented that Harmattan was not MeeGo. Hence my confusion.

Mistaken, as you've shown. cheers.

!= means the opposite of "equals". Harmattan really isn't MeeGo. But then again the APIs is should be close enough to call it an "instance of MeeGo" or something. The motivation of _calling_ Harmattan MeeGo was to get marketing behind one brand.

Texrat 2010-03-16 15:31

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freemantle (Post 569331)
okay, sorry. misread your message. I read it like you'd said Quim had commented that Harmattan was not MeeGo. Hence my confusion.

Mistaken, as you've shown. cheers.

Welll... he did say that (=! should have been !=, but it means not equal either way), which is the problem. But again, this appears to be a technical interpretation vs a marketing interpretation.

This debacle is making me nuts. :mad:

attila77 2010-03-16 15:34

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 569313)
It's obvious that, in this case, Nokia IS contributing to FUD. Harmattan is MeeGo and yet it's not.

This is getting ugly.

(I updated my previous post)

But, wait, you have not reached the bottom of it, Intel calls Moblin 2.2 MeeGo just as Nokia calls Maemo 6 MeeGo, bringing the number of identically named, but technically different MeeGo's we're talking about to three. We have a Marklar on our hands :)

Texrat 2010-03-16 15:37

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569346)
But, wait, you have not reached the bottom of it, Intel calls Moblin 2.2 MeeGo just as Nokia calls Maemo 6 MeeGo, bringing the number of identically named, but technically different MeeGo's we're talking about to three. We have a Marklar on our hands :)

Cripes.

Looks to me like MeeGo needs additional qualifiers to clear this up.

MeeGo Netbook 1.0. MeeGo Mobile Computer 1.1. MeeGo WTF Plus.

jsa 2010-03-16 15:38

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569346)
But, wait, you have not reached the bottom of it, Intel calls Moblin 2.2 MeeGo just as Nokia calls Maemo 6 MeeGo, bringing the number of identically named, but technically different MeeGo's we're talking about to three. We have a Marklar on our hands :)

You forgot all the MeeGo UXs (netbook vs handheld) and all the different vendor productised MeeGos. For the majority of people UI = OS and they will be very confused.

attila77 2010-03-16 15:57

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 569350)
Cripes.

Looks to me like MeeGo needs additional qualifiers to clear this up.

MeeGo Netbook 1.0. MeeGo Mobile Computer 1.1. MeeGo WTF Plus.

This is the I told you so part :)

Texrat 2010-03-16 16:01

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569392)
This is the I told you so part :)

I knew I thanked that for a reason.

Looks like we found you a platform, Mr. Council Candidate. :D

daperl 2010-03-16 16:04

Re: N900 NOT upgradeable to MeeGo
 
It was said that Harmattan will be Debian based, so here's how I interpret that:

Harmattan isn't step 5 of 5. It's step 4.5 of 5. Or, maybe, it's step 5 of 6. Oh, I don't know. I think my hair is turning blonde.

But until someone puts a MeeGo version number on Harmattan, the confusion won't stop, so I'll do it:

Harmattan == MeeGo .8

And it shall be written, that no matter how brief, that MeeGo will also be Debian based. And it shall be the Über handheld/netbookthingy GNU/Linux 'cause it will also support GTK. And throughout the land, everyone will have a pony and will live happily ever after.

My work here is done.


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