Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

No it is not hindsight, maybe for you. A lot of people said at launch of iPhone that it would be big and no I am not going to look that up for you.

Your lottery has nothing to do with it.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

The lumia 800 sells quite good, more worrying is that the 900 doesn't seem to be the super wp7 device everyone has been waiting for. I really expected nokia and microsoft to deliver some exceptional device in 1Q 2012. Now wp apollo comes towards the end of 2012!

No doubt microsoft can easily live with another year of bad wp7 sales (they're making a lot with android). For Nokia though this could be bad. They're burning money like crazy.

I feel nokia could have moved faster with meego, its linux after all!
I heard with apollo wp is gonna get the windows 8 core.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

there ARE moving (faster) with Maemo Harmattan.
& despite Flop's denial, it is selling all it can.
it is merely a matter of getting rid of that failure of a manager.
which doesn't mean they have to stop selling Lumias if that can bring in some m$$$$$$

here is a link to a guesstimate for Lumia devices according to Facebook
it comes out @ 1.3 million (last week) which would be in line with the "over 1 million" scoop trumpeted by Flop / NOKIA
N9 seems to have sold in slightly higher numbers (1.4 million)
former with all the marketing might of m$ + NOKIA, later with hardly any...

now is a good time for The Wizard of Huz,, ossipena & Co to prove their statistical wizardry (no pun intended...) for the coming quarter(s) / year

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

While burning money they are also making a lot of its customers angry. Many will turn away from Nokia and never look back

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120204PD208.html

"With the exception of Nokia, other major handset vendors will probably not commit resources to develop WP8-based smartphones, indicated the sources, adding that PC vendors such as Acer, Hewlett-Packard (HP) and Dell may optimize the new platform to make a comeback in the smartphone segment."

Good job, Nokia. It's time to go back to the future!

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

Nokia really fire Elop as soon as possible. I wonder what board of directors are doing ? Sleeping ? Laughing at the loss of Nokia ? Crying that they cant do anything ?

http://www.gsmarena.com/is_the_nokia...-news-3775.php

its hurting now :(:(:(:(:(:(

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

thanks, I suspected that you wouldn't understand because these things are too complicated for you. Read more instead of making such silly claims here please.

e: example for the slower ones:

2000 guys say that lumia 900 is a huge success, 2000 guys say that it flops completely. An year after the beginning of lumia 900 sales we have 2000 guys who were correct and 2000 forgotten guys who won't be talking about their predictions. So: "A lot of people said at launch of lumia 900 that it would be big" .......

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

from your circumvolutions it take it your prediction is that Lumia (900) will be a... flop?

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

Actually nokia is burning helluva piles of money by keeping symbian development running. Running it down symbian releafs approximately 6800 employers nokia doesn't need to pay salary after this year. Care to calculate financials? 6800 people x 4250€(this is probably couple thousand euros too small. it is 2500€ plus employment costs in finland). Approximately 29M€ per month. Then employer naturally needs to pay 13 months salary per year in Finland. 3,7B€..... and what have they gotten with that ~4B€ in an year? A bit under 50% of Nokias revenues in 2011. Well, Belle has been installed to some phones, my N8 probably still waits the update, haven't switched it on for a while. It is a simple what if calculation: what if symbian was driven forward full speed without sacking people and the strategy fails even without ceo saying bad things about the os?

I don't even know why I am hanging out here still, now it has been long enough from burning platform -memo to consider about everything that has been said and processing the shock about major changes in nokia. Processing major changes is always an issue for people who always tend to hang on tightly to something they have accustomed to. But after time passes one should start thinking about things more objectively and analyze why oneself has thought something and reassess if it was sane in the first place. Symbian will be buried, maemo will be testing platform for new ideas (as it has been all its life, only the usability has rocketed since 770 to at least nearly match any modern smartphone, maemo has always had some radical features nowhere to be seen in top seller phones) and WP will be the main platform.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...77-d33jsoi.jpg


e: I forgot one essential thing with 3 letters:
IBM
http://www.economist.com/node/18805483

It hasn't been kept alive by hangin on to magnetic tapes, is it?

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 

you can say whatever you want, I want to have official figures because IMO this prediction stuff only makes you look like a fool.